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Nub4ever
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Shadow Sylph
United States98 Posts
On May 27 2013 14:34 Nub4ever wrote: I'd imagine 3x DGM would be stupidly slow and involve many weird 4+ color decks. and... yeah be easier than block I've found that in 3x DGM you can actually draft a quick RW deck with Firstblades and burn spells. It's silly because people think Firstblades aren't good and in drafts like DGM/GTC/RTR they aren't, but in 3x DGM everyone plays the slow game so they actually do quite well. | ||
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
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Shadow Sylph
United States98 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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FireSA
Australia555 Posts
On the topic of drafts, generally 1 a week, sometimes 2, sometimes none, but if I can get one in I am generally happy. Drafted a super awesome rwb deck last Friday, so many boros bombs in gtc and dgm, and then some extort creatures, stabwound, and tons of two drops, went 3-1 but the game I lost was because I played like the scrub that I am (ie, did not read what a rare with evolve did, turns out it took my creatures @_@ and still got him down to 1 life in game 3, and he had exactly lethal tapped out with aetherling he dropped the turn before). On the topic of standard, I am currently looking at getting my hands on playsets of all cards in urw that I think will be playable once the last block rotates out. Only real concern thus far is the lack of draw cards other than azorius charm, but it should still be a super fun deck. So far no huge reveals in m14 that would make me play bant rather than american control after rotation, but we will see | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On May 27 2013 15:48 Meta wrote: Can anybody find anywhere to preorder Modern Masters boxes for less than $300? I talked to a local store manager about this, basically the more rare reprints that come out, the more LGS's will drag up the price, and those that DON'T want to raise the price have to in order to keep up. The last time (Commander's Arsenal) he sold at MSRP when everyone was gouging, he was bought out in 2 days and all of them were resold elsewhere. Drafts are gonna be around $40-50 for the set...yeah. | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
This is in no way a post to say that poor people are bad, or poor people are poor because they are flawed or that circumstances may or may not have caused certain things to happen or that people should not do the things they enjoy, et al. If anything, I blame Wizards for the horrible financial barrier to entry. But it does seem unwise for someone in a strap to be trying enjoy Magic at a very deep level. This post really got away from me. I just want to draft Modern Masters. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:34 Judicator wrote: Huh, makes me wonder if he can actually get 30. There was some disputes going on with distributors on who gets how much. Also, this set isn't worth your money, it's hard to justify it unless you hit big to make your money back. People are just bad at math. what's the threshold above which they stop being worth it? I would assume you've done the math already... : ) | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Pretty excited looking at these reprints. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On May 28 2013 13:19 slyboogie wrote: I hope I can find some affluent-er friends to draft this Modern Masters with me. It seems like so many MtG players are slogging it, and I know this makes me sound like some terrible moneyed elitist, but Magic is an expensive hobby, I'm not sure poor people should be playing it! I don't think 70% of players can possibly expect to break even playing it. I would never think of it as an investment, just a game that costs a lot to play. This is in no way a post to say that poor people are bad, or poor people are poor because they are flawed or that circumstances may or may not have caused certain things to happen or that people should not do the things they enjoy, et al. If anything, I blame Wizards for the horrible financial barrier to entry. But it does seem unwise for someone in a strap to be trying enjoy Magic at a very deep level. This post really got away from me. I just want to draft Modern Masters. Enjoying magic at a very deep level for almost no money is easy, borrow cards. It's when you want to travel to GPs, etc where it starts costing real money. Also you can find ways to cut your losses when you draft online to make losses minimal, I've never been able to find that when I draft irl so I consider an irl draft like going to the movies or something like. (I usually draft each set 1 or 2 times in person no more) Drafts are another story, drafts suck your wallet dry if you do them over and over, and Modern Masters is one of those things that I'm going to be on the sidelines for. When it's a normal draft I ask myelf; do I get about the same enjoyment out of this as I do a movie or dinner out and the answer is usually yes so it's justifiable. I can't pay 50$ for 3 matches though, even with the "upside" of opening rares to sell the risk/reward/what do I get out of that 50$ isn't there. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On May 28 2013 14:30 n0ise wrote: what's the threshold above which they stop being worth it? I would assume you've done the math already... : ) You basically have to hit on at least one of the money mythics, Confidant/goyf/clique etc. at foil level and non foil. At over 200 per preorder, you feasibly are not going to with 24 packs. Plus with the CHK dragons at he myhtic level if I am reading thr spoiler correctly, GL. Just aint worth your money. Your basically dropping 10 bucks a pack at which point I would ask why not just buy a Zendikat box. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
On May 28 2013 18:36 Judicator wrote: You basically have to hit on at least one of the money mythics, Confidant/goyf/clique etc. at foil level and non foil. At over 200 per preorder, you feasibly are not going to with 24 packs. Plus with the CHK dragons at he myhtic level if I am reading thr spoiler correctly, GL. Just aint worth your money. Your basically dropping 10 bucks a pack at which point I would ask why not just buy a Zendikat box. I was genuinely curious where they stand - every booster is, by definition of the current mtg economics, not worth it. The question is by how much. Luck and 'GL' have nothing to do with it, in the end packs have a certain average value. But yeah, I was curious about something, instead I got myself into a 'People are bad at math' 'So what's the math'? 'I have no idea' kind of argument. You rock, yo. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Why the hell are you doing EV on a sample of 24? Basic stats will tell you sample size will have way too much variance to justify using any conclusions. Plus you can rough it out at the basic premise if a pack is worth 10+ bucks? Sadly they arent just from glancing at the rares. | ||
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Merany
France890 Posts
I know I'm gonna lose money but I really think it's gonna be very different and a lot of fun! | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 28 2013 15:17 BlueBird. wrote: Enjoying magic at a very deep level for almost no money is easy, borrow cards. It's when you want to travel to GPs, etc where it starts costing real money. Also you can find ways to cut your losses when you draft online to make losses minimal, I've never been able to find that when I draft irl so I consider an irl draft like going to the movies or something like. (I usually draft each set 1 or 2 times in person no more) Drafts are another story, drafts suck your wallet dry if you do them over and over, and Modern Masters is one of those things that I'm going to be on the sidelines for. When it's a normal draft I ask myelf; do I get about the same enjoyment out of this as I do a movie or dinner out and the answer is usually yes so it's justifiable. I can't pay 50$ for 3 matches though, even with the "upside" of opening rares to sell the risk/reward/what do I get out of that 50$ isn't there. Dunno, I have friends who will let me borrow cards but I only really know them from the store. Personally, I'm very surprised when they offer. I have an outdated Maverick Legacy Deck and a Storm Deck, a Modern Scapeshift and Standard Esper deck that isn't fitted for DGM. It cost a lot of money and there are no Jaces or Force of Wills. I mean, I wouldn't say I paid sticker price for my constructed decks but Magic is very expensive. I primarily draft and there's no way I've broke even, but I never intended to, I think it's a bad idea to think you can. Maybe online. | ||
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