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On May 16 2013 07:41 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 02:04 Figgy wrote:On May 15 2013 22:53 Embir wrote:
Love him or hate him, IdrA did a very good job at promoting SC2, wheter intentionally or not, in first stages of Wings of Liberty. His bad attitude, manners and heel aura created stories. To this day I remember his finals vs. TLO or WhiteRa, his rage outbursts against Drewbie or Masq, or abruptly ended games against HuK or MMA.
At first I was taking his opinions as a voice of reason, I truly believed he was smart and knowledgable enough to speak about game balance in objective manner, it seemed his rage was induced by game imbalances.
In my opinion his downward spiral really started at the moment when zergs started to dominate after queen and infestor buff. His moans about imbalance were pathetic at best, especially when all around zergs were winning and dominating.
No longer people were seeing him as knowledgable, passionate player, who is stopped from winning only by bad game design; they saw his true face - face of whiny, assuming, raging dude, who is too stubborn to learn on his own mistakes.
When he played his best he was ideal bad boy of SC2, after queenpatch he became caricature of his former self. Incontrol said it best when he asked Idra which race was the weakest in Brood War. He couldn't for a second say or believe anything than the race he was playing (Terran). Idra is an extremely sore loser who blames everything on everything except him since way before SC2 came out. He never had a downward spiral. He has always been the same, and it's good for once the community and his team refuses to put up with his shit imo. He has done horrific things for SC2 and destroyed it's image. Imagine how much QQing and Balance whining Protoss we'd have at the start of WoL if he started off playing Protoss. It would be just as bad as the Zerg balance imba. At the end of wings (starting after queen patch change) you must have missed how bad the qq'ing was done by terran and protoss. It was EASILY as bad as early wol zerg QQ'ing.
The point is, it wasnt lead by IdrA and his 100,000 fanboys backing every word he says. Thats what makes it over the top. Every race has their balance whine (and at certain periods of the meta, rightfully so) but IdrA did it at all periods of play, even at the end of WoL when zerg literally won everything, and since his fanbase of immature 13 year old kids is so large, they perpetuated his "cause" more vocally than terran and protoss combined.
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"Release the Gracken" seems to have taken on a whole new meaning.
Seriously though, even though I disliked IdrA (to put it politely), this absolutely is horrible news for the SC scene. He's been THE pillar for the "foreign" competitive scene for so long, back to BW when he was the absolute hero battling through the impossible levels of Korean BW players.
Grack Fields, I hope you don't stop competing - get back into it!!! I'm sure Boxer is rooting for you too!
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On May 16 2013 08:39 SnowfaLL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On May 16 2013 02:04 Figgy wrote:On May 15 2013 22:53 Embir wrote:
Love him or hate him, IdrA did a very good job at promoting SC2, wheter intentionally or not, in first stages of Wings of Liberty. His bad attitude, manners and heel aura created stories. To this day I remember his finals vs. TLO or WhiteRa, his rage outbursts against Drewbie or Masq, or abruptly ended games against HuK or MMA.
At first I was taking his opinions as a voice of reason, I truly believed he was smart and knowledgable enough to speak about game balance in objective manner, it seemed his rage was induced by game imbalances.
In my opinion his downward spiral really started at the moment when zergs started to dominate after queen and infestor buff. His moans about imbalance were pathetic at best, especially when all around zergs were winning and dominating.
No longer people were seeing him as knowledgable, passionate player, who is stopped from winning only by bad game design; they saw his true face - face of whiny, assuming, raging dude, who is too stubborn to learn on his own mistakes.
When he played his best he was ideal bad boy of SC2, after queenpatch he became caricature of his former self. Incontrol said it best when he asked Idra which race was the weakest in Brood War. He couldn't for a second say or believe anything than the race he was playing (Terran). Idra is an extremely sore loser who blames everything on everything except him since way before SC2 came out. He never had a downward spiral. He has always been the same, and it's good for once the community and his team refuses to put up with his shit imo. He has done horrific things for SC2 and destroyed it's image. Imagine how much QQing and Balance whining Protoss we'd have at the start of WoL if he started off playing Protoss. It would be just as bad as the Zerg balance imba. At the end of wings (starting after queen patch change) you must have missed how bad the qq'ing was done by terran and protoss. It was EASILY as bad as early wol zerg QQ'ing. The point is, it wasnt lead by IdrA and his 100,000 fanboys backing every word he says. Thats what makes it over the top. Every race has their balance whine (and at certain periods of the meta, rightfully so) but IdrA did it at all periods of play, even at the end of WoL when zerg literally won everything, and since his fanbase of immature 13 year old kids is so large, they perpetuated his "cause" more vocally than terran and protoss combined.
What?
The end of WoL was non-stop "Patchzerg" every single tournament, every single race discussion, every XvZ strategy. Every single thread about any kind of gameplay devolved into 5-range Queen whining, every single LR thread mocked any Zerg that won a game. It was impossible to talk about anything related to the game without the discussion somehow looping back to Zerg OP.
The community doesn't need IdrA's help to devolve into a cesspool.
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On May 16 2013 08:39 SnowfaLL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On May 16 2013 02:04 Figgy wrote:On May 15 2013 22:53 Embir wrote:
Love him or hate him, IdrA did a very good job at promoting SC2, wheter intentionally or not, in first stages of Wings of Liberty. His bad attitude, manners and heel aura created stories. To this day I remember his finals vs. TLO or WhiteRa, his rage outbursts against Drewbie or Masq, or abruptly ended games against HuK or MMA.
At first I was taking his opinions as a voice of reason, I truly believed he was smart and knowledgable enough to speak about game balance in objective manner, it seemed his rage was induced by game imbalances.
In my opinion his downward spiral really started at the moment when zergs started to dominate after queen and infestor buff. His moans about imbalance were pathetic at best, especially when all around zergs were winning and dominating.
No longer people were seeing him as knowledgable, passionate player, who is stopped from winning only by bad game design; they saw his true face - face of whiny, assuming, raging dude, who is too stubborn to learn on his own mistakes.
When he played his best he was ideal bad boy of SC2, after queenpatch he became caricature of his former self. Incontrol said it best when he asked Idra which race was the weakest in Brood War. He couldn't for a second say or believe anything than the race he was playing (Terran). Idra is an extremely sore loser who blames everything on everything except him since way before SC2 came out. He never had a downward spiral. He has always been the same, and it's good for once the community and his team refuses to put up with his shit imo. He has done horrific things for SC2 and destroyed it's image. Imagine how much QQing and Balance whining Protoss we'd have at the start of WoL if he started off playing Protoss. It would be just as bad as the Zerg balance imba. At the end of wings (starting after queen patch change) you must have missed how bad the qq'ing was done by terran and protoss. It was EASILY as bad as early wol zerg QQ'ing. The point is, it wasnt lead by IdrA and his 100,000 fanboys backing every word he says. Thats what makes it over the top. Every race has their balance whine (and at certain periods of the meta, rightfully so) but IdrA did it at all periods of play, even at the end of WoL when zerg literally won everything, and since his fanbase of immature 13 year old kids is so large, they perpetuated his "cause" more vocally than terran and protoss combined.
Uh. I thought his whine after the buffs mostly stemmed from the gameplay for zerg being shit. Don't think for a second that patchfestor into broodlord was fun to play. I would have easily rather have had the early day 5 rax reaper meta. Probably some zergs that did the same. At any rate. Just because a prominent figurehead steps out to actually speak on the subject of not enjoying the game very much does not mean that the entire zerg race somehow magically becomes more whiney as a result. Terran and Protoss are just as prone to do the same. <,<
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On May 16 2013 09:57 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 08:39 SnowfaLL wrote:On May 16 2013 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On May 16 2013 02:04 Figgy wrote:On May 15 2013 22:53 Embir wrote:
Love him or hate him, IdrA did a very good job at promoting SC2, wheter intentionally or not, in first stages of Wings of Liberty. His bad attitude, manners and heel aura created stories. To this day I remember his finals vs. TLO or WhiteRa, his rage outbursts against Drewbie or Masq, or abruptly ended games against HuK or MMA.
At first I was taking his opinions as a voice of reason, I truly believed he was smart and knowledgable enough to speak about game balance in objective manner, it seemed his rage was induced by game imbalances.
In my opinion his downward spiral really started at the moment when zergs started to dominate after queen and infestor buff. His moans about imbalance were pathetic at best, especially when all around zergs were winning and dominating.
No longer people were seeing him as knowledgable, passionate player, who is stopped from winning only by bad game design; they saw his true face - face of whiny, assuming, raging dude, who is too stubborn to learn on his own mistakes.
When he played his best he was ideal bad boy of SC2, after queenpatch he became caricature of his former self. Incontrol said it best when he asked Idra which race was the weakest in Brood War. He couldn't for a second say or believe anything than the race he was playing (Terran). Idra is an extremely sore loser who blames everything on everything except him since way before SC2 came out. He never had a downward spiral. He has always been the same, and it's good for once the community and his team refuses to put up with his shit imo. He has done horrific things for SC2 and destroyed it's image. Imagine how much QQing and Balance whining Protoss we'd have at the start of WoL if he started off playing Protoss. It would be just as bad as the Zerg balance imba. At the end of wings (starting after queen patch change) you must have missed how bad the qq'ing was done by terran and protoss. It was EASILY as bad as early wol zerg QQ'ing. The point is, it wasnt lead by IdrA and his 100,000 fanboys backing every word he says. Thats what makes it over the top. Every race has their balance whine (and at certain periods of the meta, rightfully so) but IdrA did it at all periods of play, even at the end of WoL when zerg literally won everything, and since his fanbase of immature 13 year old kids is so large, they perpetuated his "cause" more vocally than terran and protoss combined. What? The end of WoL was non-stop "Patchzerg" every single tournament, every single race discussion, every XvZ strategy. Every single thread about any kind of gameplay devolved into 5-range Queen whining, every single LR thread mocked any Zerg that won a game. It was impossible to talk about anything related to the game without the discussion somehow looping back to Zerg OP. The community doesn't need IdrA's help to devolve into a cesspool.
Obviously no single person is responsible for the culure in the community, but it's also obvious that Idra has had more influence than most if not anyone. He has more fans and speak from a larger platform than probably anyone else in the starcraft community and he has chosen to use that for "stupid fucking faggot get cancer and die u fucker". To think that doens't effect the mindset of people watching is naive.
He had everyone chance to try and change the way people think about starcraft but he couldn't be assed, and then he goes and complains about the community. It would be fun if it wasn't so sad.
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On May 16 2013 08:35 Sajaki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 08:03 CeriseCherries wrote:On May 15 2013 22:49 Nekovivie wrote:On May 15 2013 22:45 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 15 2013 22:43 teapot wrote:
What's the deal between Idra and Demuslim? What caused this animosity? They don't like each other. That's about it really. Plus they get a kick out of winding each other up. They have conflicting personalities. One is passionate about the game and his fans, is all around well mannered and a nice guy even when losing. The other is British :/ naw its because they were both so attractted to each other and they bore in their hearts a burning passionate love for each other, a forbidden love; a love masked and hidden by their feigned animosity. their mutual fear that their love would be unreciprocated and secret silence turned passion into bitterness. idra became increasingly angry thinking he can never be with demuslim until he lashed out at the fans that he blamed for preventing him from achieving his desire. Cliche, fanfiction-grade material. Try harder.
Lol try harder for this guy, it's not doing anything for him. He's really serious about his homoerotic literature.
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On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra! Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave. If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat. Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it. It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans. It's not like it's any good for him to lose. I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant). However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game... Show nested quote +back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre
Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee. On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?
Well, of course he was talented. But he trained for years in Korea, never made it to an a-team, didn't even win TSL2. Remember his loss against kolll (the german young zerg) at WCG.
In his BW day, Idea was maybe the best foreigner, he was an utterly mediocre pro player. And beating amateurs when you are supposed to be a pro is not so impressive. I blame his attitude; he would have had the talent to make it to A teams, had he questionned his own playing and his own losses a little bit. Let me tell you that if Flash had lost a BO7 against F91, he would have got home, watch the replay and analyse what he did wrong and come back a better player instrad if ranting and QQing like a kid.
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On May 17 2013 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra! Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave. If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat. Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it. It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans. It's not like it's any good for him to lose. I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant). However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game... back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre
Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee. On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no? Well, of course he was talented. But he trained for years in Korea, never made it to an a-team, didn't even win TSL2. Remember his loss against kolll (the german young zerg) at WCG. In his BW day, Idea was maybe the best foreigner, he was an utterly mediocre pro player. And beating amateurs when you are supposed to be a pro is not so impressive. I blame his attitude; he would have had the talent to make it to A teams, had he questionned his own playing and his own losses a little bit. Let me tell you that if Flash had lost a BO7 against F91, he would have got home, watch the replay and analyse what he did wrong and come back a better player instrad if ranting and QQing like a kid.
Man I still remember watching that series of Idra vs F91. Was really really sad how Idra stood absolutely no chance
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This thread has more the one million views in 6 days lol. Must be an all time record.
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Whaaaaaat? They kicked IdrA for real?
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On May 17 2013 00:23 xXFireandIceXx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 00:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra! Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave. If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat. Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it. It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans. It's not like it's any good for him to lose. I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant). However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game... back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre
Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee. On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no? Well, of course he was talented. But he trained for years in Korea, never made it to an a-team, didn't even win TSL2. Remember his loss against kolll (the german young zerg) at WCG. In his BW day, Idea was maybe the best foreigner, he was an utterly mediocre pro player. And beating amateurs when you are supposed to be a pro is not so impressive. I blame his attitude; he would have had the talent to make it to A teams, had he questionned his own playing and his own losses a little bit. Let me tell you that if Flash had lost a BO7 against F91, he would have got home, watch the replay and analyse what he did wrong and come back a better player instrad if ranting and QQing like a kid. Man I still remember watching that series of Idra vs F91. Was really really sad how Idra stood absolutely no chance
He got absolutely outplayed: F91 toyed with him, but he didn't understand it. Instead he blamed imbalance, cheese and map design. Thing is, F91 was much smarter.
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On May 16 2013 09:57 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 08:39 SnowfaLL wrote:On May 16 2013 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On May 16 2013 02:04 Figgy wrote:On May 15 2013 22:53 Embir wrote:
Love him or hate him, IdrA did a very good job at promoting SC2, wheter intentionally or not, in first stages of Wings of Liberty. His bad attitude, manners and heel aura created stories. To this day I remember his finals vs. TLO or WhiteRa, his rage outbursts against Drewbie or Masq, or abruptly ended games against HuK or MMA.
At first I was taking his opinions as a voice of reason, I truly believed he was smart and knowledgable enough to speak about game balance in objective manner, it seemed his rage was induced by game imbalances.
In my opinion his downward spiral really started at the moment when zergs started to dominate after queen and infestor buff. His moans about imbalance were pathetic at best, especially when all around zergs were winning and dominating.
No longer people were seeing him as knowledgable, passionate player, who is stopped from winning only by bad game design; they saw his true face - face of whiny, assuming, raging dude, who is too stubborn to learn on his own mistakes.
When he played his best he was ideal bad boy of SC2, after queenpatch he became caricature of his former self. Incontrol said it best when he asked Idra which race was the weakest in Brood War. He couldn't for a second say or believe anything than the race he was playing (Terran). Idra is an extremely sore loser who blames everything on everything except him since way before SC2 came out. He never had a downward spiral. He has always been the same, and it's good for once the community and his team refuses to put up with his shit imo. He has done horrific things for SC2 and destroyed it's image. Imagine how much QQing and Balance whining Protoss we'd have at the start of WoL if he started off playing Protoss. It would be just as bad as the Zerg balance imba. At the end of wings (starting after queen patch change) you must have missed how bad the qq'ing was done by terran and protoss. It was EASILY as bad as early wol zerg QQ'ing. The point is, it wasnt lead by IdrA and his 100,000 fanboys backing every word he says. Thats what makes it over the top. Every race has their balance whine (and at certain periods of the meta, rightfully so) but IdrA did it at all periods of play, even at the end of WoL when zerg literally won everything, and since his fanbase of immature 13 year old kids is so large, they perpetuated his "cause" more vocally than terran and protoss combined. What? The end of WoL was non-stop "Patchzerg" every single tournament, every single race discussion, every XvZ strategy. Every single thread about any kind of gameplay devolved into 5-range Queen whining, every single LR thread mocked any Zerg that won a game. It was impossible to talk about anything related to the game without the discussion somehow looping back to Zerg OP. The community doesn't need IdrA's help to devolve into a cesspool.
People refer to it as Lings of Liberty for a reason. 
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On May 15 2013 23:20 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 22:03 z0li wrote:
i saw that IdrA to join LG-IM, isnt that great !
ITS A JOKE Romanian guy making a joke, not sure how to react.
You have nothing to say about the joke, you know its true, but somehow you must make it sound bad.
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I wonder what goes on Idra's mind. He complains about "bad fans", but he doesn't see that all these people who mock and harass him are there because he mocked and harassed other players. How can you tell a person that you want him to get cancer? I bet you can go to jail on some countries just for saying that, or at least be forced to see a psycohlogyst. This is way out of line, the kind of thing that changes the way you see a person forever.
He talked about good and bad fans. Well, he has a good side, being a great player who brings fresh and valuable content to the community, and has a horde of good fans for that. But his bad side also gathered too much attention gathering people who want to throw back on him all the rage he distributed. This is just basic reflection of a celebrity over his fanbase.
Maybe it's good that he is no longer competing, as this may put the pressure off his shoulders so he can find some room to work on himself. He doesn't need to get better at the game. No, he is good enough. He only needs to improve on himself.
As a fan of his "good side", I wish he could see all this. Look at his stream, it's just his never smiling face, with nothing but an apartament "as is" on the background, and his mono-tone voice commenting technical stuff. And it's still great. I wish he really wanted to turn that into a show, to interact with the community, to connect more, tell a joke, laugh, comment on something that happened in an emotional way, I bet his viewer count would skyrocket with people that really liked him. If only he wasn't trying to be that perfect and indestructable robot that knows and does everything he should.
Maybe 10 years from now, Greg will look back and say "Wow, I've done so much! But I could have done so much more..."
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On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra! Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave. If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.
must be something about the name Gregory 
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On May 17 2013 07:16 monkybone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 05:59 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 17 2013 05:41 stevarius wrote:On May 16 2013 09:57 WolfintheSheep wrote:On May 16 2013 08:39 SnowfaLL wrote:On May 16 2013 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On May 16 2013 02:04 Figgy wrote:On May 15 2013 22:53 Embir wrote:
Love him or hate him, IdrA did a very good job at promoting SC2, wheter intentionally or not, in first stages of Wings of Liberty. His bad attitude, manners and heel aura created stories. To this day I remember his finals vs. TLO or WhiteRa, his rage outbursts against Drewbie or Masq, or abruptly ended games against HuK or MMA.
At first I was taking his opinions as a voice of reason, I truly believed he was smart and knowledgable enough to speak about game balance in objective manner, it seemed his rage was induced by game imbalances.
In my opinion his downward spiral really started at the moment when zergs started to dominate after queen and infestor buff. His moans about imbalance were pathetic at best, especially when all around zergs were winning and dominating.
No longer people were seeing him as knowledgable, passionate player, who is stopped from winning only by bad game design; they saw his true face - face of whiny, assuming, raging dude, who is too stubborn to learn on his own mistakes.
When he played his best he was ideal bad boy of SC2, after queenpatch he became caricature of his former self. Incontrol said it best when he asked Idra which race was the weakest in Brood War. He couldn't for a second say or believe anything than the race he was playing (Terran). Idra is an extremely sore loser who blames everything on everything except him since way before SC2 came out. He never had a downward spiral. He has always been the same, and it's good for once the community and his team refuses to put up with his shit imo. He has done horrific things for SC2 and destroyed it's image. Imagine how much QQing and Balance whining Protoss we'd have at the start of WoL if he started off playing Protoss. It would be just as bad as the Zerg balance imba. At the end of wings (starting after queen patch change) you must have missed how bad the qq'ing was done by terran and protoss. It was EASILY as bad as early wol zerg QQ'ing. The point is, it wasnt lead by IdrA and his 100,000 fanboys backing every word he says. Thats what makes it over the top. Every race has their balance whine (and at certain periods of the meta, rightfully so) but IdrA did it at all periods of play, even at the end of WoL when zerg literally won everything, and since his fanbase of immature 13 year old kids is so large, they perpetuated his "cause" more vocally than terran and protoss combined. What? The end of WoL was non-stop "Patchzerg" every single tournament, every single race discussion, every XvZ strategy. Every single thread about any kind of gameplay devolved into 5-range Queen whining, every single LR thread mocked any Zerg that won a game. It was impossible to talk about anything related to the game without the discussion somehow looping back to Zerg OP. The community doesn't need IdrA's help to devolve into a cesspool. People refer to it as Lings of Liberty for a reason. Yes, cause they are stupid. ohhhh zergs STILL butthurt about the infestor nerf?
zergs played on steppes of war asdfasdfasdf its mental damage that can't be fixed
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