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He hates the game but keeps streaming it.. mmm
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On May 15 2013 22:33 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:34 NarAliya wrote:On May 12 2013 02:06 Snusmumriken wrote:On May 12 2013 02:00 normannlol wrote:On May 12 2013 01:53 stickyhands wrote:On May 12 2013 01:50 normannlol wrote:
I don't usually post anywhere, but it really shocks me that people are so surprised. Can't shut up.
No results at all in a long time, always bad attitude - i have been thinking for a loooong time "Who the hell want's to pay a guy like that?". This is business, if you can't deliver, you don't belong.
Next stop Incontrol.... Out with him, get some real talent. Or pay him only for the commentating, which i will give him a thumps up for!
And yes, i will properly be hated for this, but hey, it is what it is.
come on, hating on incontrol is so old now... incontrol is doing an amazing job for EG also: + Show Spoiler + Oh wow, did not realize that my TL virginity was just taken. Thumps up to you! I don't hate on Incontrol, i love the guy, amazing eSport figure, with his personality, humor and all that. But as a player... That's a chapter that should be over already, please move on to something else and do it as a hoppy. Ehm incontrol is definately an asset to EG. One of the most awesome guys in the scene in my opinion. Him, qxc, grubby and a few others are really nice people for the most part (my impression). Some are not as great personalitywise but are decent/good and a few have pretty shitty attitudes but are great at the game. Idra isnt really in either of these categories imo so I guess that makes him special in some sense  All the people you just mentioned are terrible players and never get any results. Incontrol is bad at the game but is apparently a great personality. Qxc is a godawful terran but apparently has a great personality. Grubby, a far cry from his BM + Right Click days is a terrible player but everyone loves him because he has a great personality. eSports isn't taken seriously (and never will be) outside of TL and Korea. If you want it to be taken seriously, you need to be supporting players who consistently achieve high level results and bring home the prize money. Paying money for casters and 'great personalities' is just silly and is ultimately bad business. Yeah I'm sure it's the community's appreciation for personalities that's holding esports back from being mainstream. It's not like those potential mainstream viewers have no idea what the community likes lol.
It IS a little bizarre though, don't you think?
On May 15 2013 22:35 finkelboy wrote:
He hates the game but keeps streaming it.. mmm
He's addicted. Love, hate relationship.
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On May 15 2013 22:03 z0li wrote:
i saw that IdrA to join LG-IM, isnt that great !
ITS A JOKE
Hahaha, as LG-IM is one of the teams that cares most about their sponsors, this would be so good!
May 16th: Idra joins LG-IM
May 16th: "Now all of you fucks can see that I'm as good as the koreans!" - LG-IM Idra
May 16th: Idra is released from LG-IM.
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What's the deal between Idra and Demuslim? What caused this animosity?
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On May 15 2013 22:43 teapot wrote:
What's the deal between Idra and Demuslim? What caused this animosity?
They don't like each other. That's about it really. Plus they get a kick out of winding each other up.
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On May 15 2013 22:43 teapot wrote:
What's the deal between Idra and Demuslim? What caused this animosity?
Ever have a roommate you didn't like, but were nice to because you lived with them? How much trash did you talk when you no longer lived together?
Now take that, add the SC2 ladder, popularity as professional players and a public stream. And a kitten, because everyone loves cats.
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On May 15 2013 22:45 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 22:43 teapot wrote:
What's the deal between Idra and Demuslim? What caused this animosity? They don't like each other. That's about it really. Plus they get a kick out of winding each other up.
They have conflicting personalities. One is passionate about the game and his fans, is all around well mannered and a nice guy even when losing.
The other is British :/
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Love him or hate him, IdrA did a very good job at promoting SC2, wheter intentionally or not, in first stages of Wings of Liberty. His bad attitude, manners and heel aura created stories. To this day I remember his finals vs. TLO or WhiteRa, his rage outbursts against Drewbie or Masq, or abruptly ended games against HuK or MMA.
At first I was taking his opinions as a voice of reason, I truly believed he was smart and knowledgable enough to speak about game balance in objective manner, it seemed his rage was induced by game imbalances.
In my opinion his downward spiral really started at the moment when zergs started to dominate after queen and infestor buff. His moans about imbalance were pathetic at best, especially when all around zergs were winning and dominating.
No longer people were seeing him as knowledgable, passionate player, who is stopped from winning only by bad game design; they saw his true face - face of whiny, assuming, raging dude, who is too stubborn to learn on his own mistakes.
When he played his best he was ideal bad boy of SC2, after queenpatch he became caricature of his former self.
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On May 15 2013 22:37 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 22:33 Doodsmack wrote:On May 15 2013 19:34 NarAliya wrote:On May 12 2013 02:06 Snusmumriken wrote:On May 12 2013 02:00 normannlol wrote:On May 12 2013 01:53 stickyhands wrote:On May 12 2013 01:50 normannlol wrote:
I don't usually post anywhere, but it really shocks me that people are so surprised. Can't shut up.
No results at all in a long time, always bad attitude - i have been thinking for a loooong time "Who the hell want's to pay a guy like that?". This is business, if you can't deliver, you don't belong.
Next stop Incontrol.... Out with him, get some real talent. Or pay him only for the commentating, which i will give him a thumps up for!
And yes, i will properly be hated for this, but hey, it is what it is.
come on, hating on incontrol is so old now... incontrol is doing an amazing job for EG also: + Show Spoiler + Oh wow, did not realize that my TL virginity was just taken. Thumps up to you! I don't hate on Incontrol, i love the guy, amazing eSport figure, with his personality, humor and all that. But as a player... That's a chapter that should be over already, please move on to something else and do it as a hoppy. Ehm incontrol is definately an asset to EG. One of the most awesome guys in the scene in my opinion. Him, qxc, grubby and a few others are really nice people for the most part (my impression). Some are not as great personalitywise but are decent/good and a few have pretty shitty attitudes but are great at the game. Idra isnt really in either of these categories imo so I guess that makes him special in some sense All the people you just mentioned are terrible players and never get any results. Incontrol is bad at the game but is apparently a great personality. Qxc is a godawful terran but apparently has a great personality. Grubby, a far cry from his BM + Right Click days is a terrible player but everyone loves him because he has a great personality. eSports isn't taken seriously (and never will be) outside of TL and Korea. If you want it to be taken seriously, you need to be supporting players who consistently achieve high level results and bring home the prize money. Paying money for casters and 'great personalities' is just silly and is ultimately bad business. Yeah I'm sure it's the community's appreciation for personalities that's holding esports back from being mainstream. It's not like those potential mainstream viewers have no idea what the community likes lol. It IS a little bizarre though, don't you think?
I'd say it makes sense given 1) the volatility of SC2 and 2) the scene's oversaturation of players. When you combine those two things it means pretty much no one is consistently making it to the last stages of tournaments. Skill loses its value in the scene when you can pretty much the top 32 players' names in any given tournament in a hat and randomly pick the winner, and you'd get about the same level of consistency as what actually exists. So viewers turn to personality to find something meaningful.
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If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb
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On May 15 2013 22:55 Addicted2Sc wrote:
If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb
You don't punch with kicks, genius.
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On May 15 2013 22:58 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 22:55 Addicted2Sc wrote:
If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb You don't punch with kicks, genius.
sry for talkin in my first language, freak. mb we will talk again if you learned 3 languages
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On May 15 2013 23:00 Addicted2Sc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 22:58 m4inbrain wrote:On May 15 2013 22:55 Addicted2Sc wrote:
If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb You don't punch with kicks, genius. sry for talkin in my first language, freak
Yeah, funny story, i'm german as well, and even then it would not make sense. Also i guess you meant not talking in your first language, but meh.
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On May 15 2013 22:55 Addicted2Sc wrote:
If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb
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Sigh.. 
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On May 15 2013 23:02 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 23:00 Addicted2Sc wrote:On May 15 2013 22:58 m4inbrain wrote:On May 15 2013 22:55 Addicted2Sc wrote:
If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb You don't punch with kicks, genius. sry for talkin in my first language, freak Yeah, funny story, i'm german as well, and even then it would not make sense. Also i guess you meant not talking in your first language, but meh.
See the light behind the darkness, than u can realize what i mean. Ok, just replace the word punch with kick and stop crying little idra fanboy
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On May 15 2013 22:53 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 22:37 AnomalySC2 wrote:On May 15 2013 22:33 Doodsmack wrote:On May 15 2013 19:34 NarAliya wrote:On May 12 2013 02:06 Snusmumriken wrote:On May 12 2013 02:00 normannlol wrote:On May 12 2013 01:53 stickyhands wrote:On May 12 2013 01:50 normannlol wrote:
I don't usually post anywhere, but it really shocks me that people are so surprised. Can't shut up.
No results at all in a long time, always bad attitude - i have been thinking for a loooong time "Who the hell want's to pay a guy like that?". This is business, if you can't deliver, you don't belong.
Next stop Incontrol.... Out with him, get some real talent. Or pay him only for the commentating, which i will give him a thumps up for!
And yes, i will properly be hated for this, but hey, it is what it is.
come on, hating on incontrol is so old now... incontrol is doing an amazing job for EG also: + Show Spoiler + Oh wow, did not realize that my TL virginity was just taken. Thumps up to you! I don't hate on Incontrol, i love the guy, amazing eSport figure, with his personality, humor and all that. But as a player... That's a chapter that should be over already, please move on to something else and do it as a hoppy. Ehm incontrol is definately an asset to EG. One of the most awesome guys in the scene in my opinion. Him, qxc, grubby and a few others are really nice people for the most part (my impression). Some are not as great personalitywise but are decent/good and a few have pretty shitty attitudes but are great at the game. Idra isnt really in either of these categories imo so I guess that makes him special in some sense All the people you just mentioned are terrible players and never get any results. Incontrol is bad at the game but is apparently a great personality. Qxc is a godawful terran but apparently has a great personality. Grubby, a far cry from his BM + Right Click days is a terrible player but everyone loves him because he has a great personality. eSports isn't taken seriously (and never will be) outside of TL and Korea. If you want it to be taken seriously, you need to be supporting players who consistently achieve high level results and bring home the prize money. Paying money for casters and 'great personalities' is just silly and is ultimately bad business. Yeah I'm sure it's the community's appreciation for personalities that's holding esports back from being mainstream. It's not like those potential mainstream viewers have no idea what the community likes lol. It IS a little bizarre though, don't you think? I'd say it makes sense given 1) the volatility of SC2 and 2) the scene's oversaturation of players. When you combine those two things it means pretty much no one is consistently making it to the last stages of tournaments. Skill loses its value in the scene when you can pretty much the top 32 players' names in any given tournament in a hat and randomly pick the winner, and you'd get about the same level of consistency as what actually exists. So viewers turn to personality to find something meaningful.
This discussion is beyond stilly. How is Grubby a terrible player? He did very well at the recent Dream Hack, making it through groups to the round of 16(from memory and I can’t check liquipida). What are peoples standards for good today? Win everything? TLO did poorly for over a year, but is now ripping through WSC. How does he rate on this scale? Terrible, yet lucky?
And all-killing IM is a feat. Claim it is luck, but that is a lot of luck that most Korean teams can’t generate.
I just don’t know why people entertain these discussions claiming really solid players are “terrible” because they don’t win everything.
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On May 15 2013 23:06 Addicted2Sc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 23:02 m4inbrain wrote:On May 15 2013 23:00 Addicted2Sc wrote:On May 15 2013 22:58 m4inbrain wrote:On May 15 2013 22:55 Addicted2Sc wrote:
If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb You don't punch with kicks, genius. sry for talkin in my first language, freak Yeah, funny story, i'm german as well, and even then it would not make sense. Also i guess you meant not talking in your first language, but meh. See the light behind the darkness, than u can realize what i mean. Ok, just replace the word punch with kick and stop crying little idra fanboy
That makes even less sense. Maybe grow up a bit, that would help.
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On May 15 2013 23:06 Addicted2Sc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 23:02 m4inbrain wrote:On May 15 2013 23:00 Addicted2Sc wrote:On May 15 2013 22:58 m4inbrain wrote:On May 15 2013 22:55 Addicted2Sc wrote:
If i would be demuslim, i would punch idra with a roundhouse kick in his face and after that i would spit in his face.. iam so glad to not see idra again in tournaments, thanks god he disappeared more and more... hater gonna hate, so true. ssb You don't punch with kicks, genius. sry for talkin in my first language, freak Yeah, funny story, i'm german as well, and even then it would not make sense. Also i guess you meant not talking in your first language, but meh. See the light behind the darkness, than u can realize what i mean. Ok, just replace the word punch with kick and stop crying little idra fanboy
You might wanna drop the attitude or you'll find yourself kicked from TL with a roundhouse punch.
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Plus grubby has still got his wc3 fame clinging onto him.
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On May 15 2013 23:07 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 22:53 Doodsmack wrote:On May 15 2013 22:37 AnomalySC2 wrote:On May 15 2013 22:33 Doodsmack wrote:On May 15 2013 19:34 NarAliya wrote:On May 12 2013 02:06 Snusmumriken wrote:On May 12 2013 02:00 normannlol wrote:On May 12 2013 01:53 stickyhands wrote:On May 12 2013 01:50 normannlol wrote:
I don't usually post anywhere, but it really shocks me that people are so surprised. Can't shut up.
No results at all in a long time, always bad attitude - i have been thinking for a loooong time "Who the hell want's to pay a guy like that?". This is business, if you can't deliver, you don't belong.
Next stop Incontrol.... Out with him, get some real talent. Or pay him only for the commentating, which i will give him a thumps up for!
And yes, i will properly be hated for this, but hey, it is what it is.
come on, hating on incontrol is so old now... incontrol is doing an amazing job for EG also: + Show Spoiler + Oh wow, did not realize that my TL virginity was just taken. Thumps up to you! I don't hate on Incontrol, i love the guy, amazing eSport figure, with his personality, humor and all that. But as a player... That's a chapter that should be over already, please move on to something else and do it as a hoppy. Ehm incontrol is definately an asset to EG. One of the most awesome guys in the scene in my opinion. Him, qxc, grubby and a few others are really nice people for the most part (my impression). Some are not as great personalitywise but are decent/good and a few have pretty shitty attitudes but are great at the game. Idra isnt really in either of these categories imo so I guess that makes him special in some sense All the people you just mentioned are terrible players and never get any results. Incontrol is bad at the game but is apparently a great personality. Qxc is a godawful terran but apparently has a great personality. Grubby, a far cry from his BM + Right Click days is a terrible player but everyone loves him because he has a great personality. eSports isn't taken seriously (and never will be) outside of TL and Korea. If you want it to be taken seriously, you need to be supporting players who consistently achieve high level results and bring home the prize money. Paying money for casters and 'great personalities' is just silly and is ultimately bad business. Yeah I'm sure it's the community's appreciation for personalities that's holding esports back from being mainstream. It's not like those potential mainstream viewers have no idea what the community likes lol. It IS a little bizarre though, don't you think? I'd say it makes sense given 1) the volatility of SC2 and 2) the scene's oversaturation of players. When you combine those two things it means pretty much no one is consistently making it to the last stages of tournaments. Skill loses its value in the scene when you can pretty much the top 32 players' names in any given tournament in a hat and randomly pick the winner, and you'd get about the same level of consistency as what actually exists. So viewers turn to personality to find something meaningful. This discussion is beyond stilly. How is Grubby a terrible player? He did very well at the recent Dream Hack, making it through groups to the round of 16(from memory and I can’t check liquipida). What are peoples standards for good today? Win everything? TLO did poorly for over a year, but is now ripping through WSC. How does he rate on this scale? Terrible, yet lucky? And all-killing IM is a feat. Claim it is luck, but that is a lot of luck that most Korean teams can’t generate. I just don’t know why people entertain these discussions claiming really solid players are “terrible” because they don’t win everything.
Honestly I was just wondering why the sc2 community is so fixated on personalities rather than actual gameplay. I didn't think someone would go down the whole "sc2 is too volatile" route.
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