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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 15 2013 03:50 GMT
#4861
On May 15 2013 10:28 Calm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 07:00 QuanticHawk wrote:
On May 15 2013 06:15 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 15 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
On May 15 2013 06:01 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 15 2013 05:48 StarStruck wrote:
We're used to his antics in the NHL thread. Just don't bother with it.

Idra has been quoted several times that the "drama" is what makes money... and that winning events is "at best tangentially related" ( his words not mine).

so with Idra himself stating that
1. I love money
2. drama makes money

to assume there is 100% certainty that EG and/or Idra are being totally honest in this matter is silly.

I "believe" in the truth of this event about as much as i "believe in" any random advertisement i see on television.

the end goal is just to make money.. whatever way possible.


But that doesn't change the fact that your theory is crap, you're a shit poster and you don't fact check ever. You just claim wild shit and expect people to take it on face value because "random advertisement on TV" sometimes lie. And just like we shouldn't believe what we read on TV, we know that anything you post is going to be nonsense.


rather than an attack ... examine the content of what i'm saying and go from there.
just follow the money.


in his interview during Real Talk IDra disputes some of the recounting of the events as portrayed by EG.

if in fact some of this event is orchestrated.. does this make EG, Evil.
hardly. EG is just trying to make money by entertaining people.

no big deal here... as i stated before... its marketing 101


User was temp banned for this post.


hahahahaahahahahahahahahahh

well i for one will root for idra and his bm



Root for idra... Root... Idra... RootIdra! Quantic Hawk has cracked this conspiracy wide open. Root is paying EG to create drama and thereby create attention for EG, which will in turn be hype for them when they sign Idra!


Confirmed by Calm, with insider info, ROOTIdra will be coming and his name will be shortened to ROOTDRA which will be affectionately changed to ROOT4THED.
User was warned for too many mimes.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
May 15 2013 04:02 GMT
#4862
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


Show nested quote +
back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
May 15 2013 04:14 GMT
#4863
On May 15 2013 13:02 HeavenS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.


I'm pretty sure that IdrA in his peak when he was playing BW in korea, was of a higher skill level than mondragon at his peak, IMO.
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
May 15 2013 04:23 GMT
#4864
Let's be fair, they were both in the conversation, as were guys like Ret and Nony (and at other periods Draco, Testie and a few others).
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
May 15 2013 04:49 GMT
#4865
On May 15 2013 13:14 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:02 HeavenS wrote:
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.


I'm pretty sure that IdrA in his peak when he was playing BW in korea, was of a higher skill level than mondragon at his peak, IMO.


Almost certainly.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12474 Posts
May 15 2013 04:59 GMT
#4866
On May 14 2013 12:40 Hitch-22 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138967&currentpage=41#813

I feel like his line of quotes is mandatory for this thread : P

this should be at the front page of the thread
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 05:03:04
May 15 2013 05:02 GMT
#4867
On May 15 2013 13:49 zJayy962 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:14 GGzerG wrote:
On May 15 2013 13:02 HeavenS wrote:
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.


I'm pretty sure that IdrA in his peak when he was playing BW in korea, was of a higher skill level than mondragon at his peak, IMO.


Almost certainly.

If your definition of "skill" is something that isn't "results".

Idra definitely was the better player at grinding 1 build and having better macro.


I'd say that Draco at his peak was better than Idra at his peak despite Draco's peak being years earlier, as well.
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 15 2013 05:04 GMT
#4868
On May 15 2013 13:59 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 12:40 Hitch-22 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138967&currentpage=41#813

I feel like his line of quotes is mandatory for this thread : P

this should be at the front page of the thread


Clearly. With things like "fuck you, you little imbecile" and "why haven't you killed yourself" being part of the "funny quotes." Honestly shit like that is just embarrassing. There's a difference between disagreeing with someone and being able to vocalize that and doing what Idra is doing. He has a history of "being honest" as a lot of people call it in this thread but it's in a complete douchebag way that's not mature in the slightest. If he would actually take the time to think out what he'd like to say and say it in a respectful manner this wouldn't have happened. Big difference between "fuck you imbecile" and "you're entitled to keep ad block on but I'd appreciate it if you didn't. We (esports, idra, whoever) could use the money and you pay for other things like internet and cable, why can't you watch a harmless ad?" Demeaning the community doesn't get you anything.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12474 Posts
May 15 2013 05:17 GMT
#4869
On May 15 2013 14:04 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:59 ETisME wrote:
On May 14 2013 12:40 Hitch-22 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138967&currentpage=41#813

I feel like his line of quotes is mandatory for this thread : P

this should be at the front page of the thread


Clearly. With things like "fuck you, you little imbecile" and "why haven't you killed yourself" being part of the "funny quotes." Honestly shit like that is just embarrassing. There's a difference between disagreeing with someone and being able to vocalize that and doing what Idra is doing. He has a history of "being honest" as a lot of people call it in this thread but it's in a complete douchebag way that's not mature in the slightest. If he would actually take the time to think out what he'd like to say and say it in a respectful manner this wouldn't have happened. Big difference between "fuck you imbecile" and "you're entitled to keep ad block on but I'd appreciate it if you didn't. We (esports, idra, whoever) could use the money and you pay for other things like internet and cable, why can't you watch a harmless ad?" Demeaning the community doesn't get you anything.

because everyone should only talk as professional and robotic like you suggested, right?
I guess for future reference, every pro should consult you before posting anything on the forum. why not write up a template for all the possible response and situation for pro just to help out our little sensitive esport community
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25585 Posts
May 15 2013 05:24 GMT
#4870
Wow, this thread lol. There's a medium fucking ground between 'being a robot' and 'being a cunt'

Why is every other post positing the existence of two binary positions that are the only options and choices available? The world exists in varying shades of grey.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 15 2013 05:43 GMT
#4871
On May 15 2013 14:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
Wow, this thread lol. There's a medium fucking ground between 'being a robot' and 'being a cunt'

Why is every other post positing the existence of two binary positions that are the only options and choices available? The world exists in varying shades of grey.

This community doesn't care about grey areas. A quote either gets ignored or gets you fired.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Trineal
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
May 15 2013 05:45 GMT
#4872
On May 15 2013 14:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
Wow, this thread lol. There's a medium fucking ground between 'being a robot' and 'being a cunt'

Why is every other post positing the existence of two binary positions that are the only options and choices available? The world exists in varying shades of grey.


Shades of gray are complicated
Black and white is simple and simple is easy.
And of course people have a strong tendency to take the easy path, consequences be damned.
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 05:52:18
May 15 2013 05:48 GMT
#4873
On May 15 2013 14:02 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:49 zJayy962 wrote:
On May 15 2013 13:14 GGzerG wrote:
On May 15 2013 13:02 HeavenS wrote:
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.


I'm pretty sure that IdrA in his peak when he was playing BW in korea, was of a higher skill level than mondragon at his peak, IMO.


Almost certainly.

If your definition of "skill" is something that isn't "results".

Idra definitely was the better player at grinding 1 build and having better macro.


I'd say that Draco at his peak was better than Idra at his peak despite Draco's peak being years earlier, as well.

Did you see IdrA's win % vs foreigners before he was on CJEntus and even during?? It was around 70-80% constantly... It's offensive to say 'results' when he was playing on korean pro team and not rolling around shit foreign tournaments.

"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
shubcraft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany145 Posts
May 15 2013 06:04 GMT
#4874
Slightly OT: Has it ever been mentioned why IdrA choose Z over T in WoL? And wasn´t he considering even switching to P in HotS if they "didn´t fix Z"?
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 06:10:14
May 15 2013 06:08 GMT
#4875
On May 15 2013 15:04 shubcraft wrote:
Slightly OT: Has it ever been mentioned why IdrA choose Z over T in WoL? And wasn´t he considering even switching to P in HotS if they "didn´t fix Z"?

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but if I recall right it's because he considered it, like Terran in BW, to be the most demanding race in the game with regards to macro mechanics.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 15 2013 06:25 GMT
#4876
On May 15 2013 13:14 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:02 HeavenS wrote:
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.


I'm pretty sure that IdrA in his peak when he was playing BW in korea, was of a higher skill level than mondragon at his peak, IMO.

He may have had the mechanics, but he was far from the best foreign player at the time.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 15 2013 08:11 GMT
#4877
On May 15 2013 15:25 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:14 GGzerG wrote:
On May 15 2013 13:02 HeavenS wrote:
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.


I'm pretty sure that IdrA in his peak when he was playing BW in korea, was of a higher skill level than mondragon at his peak, IMO.

He may have had the mechanics, but he was far from the best foreign player at the time.


I wouldn't say far, if he wasn't the best he wasn't that far from it.
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Kenthros
Profile Joined August 2012
United States95 Posts
May 15 2013 08:22 GMT
#4878
whats that you say? your still talking about this.
- Idras on EG playing on streams wins some, loses some, makes bank.
-Idras off EG playing on streams wins some, loses some, guest star commentates, makes bank.

whatever he said doesnt matter, what matters is at the end of the day hes still gonna make bank, and your still talking about some comment.
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Von
Profile Joined May 2009
United States363 Posts
May 15 2013 08:32 GMT
#4879
Well, this thread has gotten rather entertaining toward the end.

If its not fun I dont want it.
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
May 15 2013 08:46 GMT
#4880
On May 15 2013 15:25 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:14 GGzerG wrote:
On May 15 2013 13:02 HeavenS wrote:
On May 15 2013 10:29 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:47 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:01 neilp187 wrote:
Finally the guy is the biggest troll in the game. His atitude in game and towards other people was unacceptable. His unsportmanlike conduct was the worst. Leaving the game when you werent beat yet is a joke. I hate to sound rude and mean but it took evil genius long enouguh sheesh. Good luck in the future idra!

Honestly, I think it should really be up to the player to decide when to leave.

If you ever watch a chess tournament, players resign all the time in seemingly equal position when they know they are going to lose whatever happens. I remember Gregory Sherper resigning against Kramnik in a position where I couldn't even see a real threat.

Idra did make mistakes before by leaving a bit too fast though, some of the time I agree it's justified but some other times were rash decisions

Even if it's a bad decision, it's his loss. And it's his right to take it.

It happens also that a chess player resigns and then it is discovered it was a bad decision because there were drawing or even winning chances.. Then you think "Oh bad luck to him" instead of having this ridiculous shitstorm from angry fans.

It's not like it's any good for him to lose.

I never liked Idra's attitude, and if anything, he has really hurted himself as a player with his immaturity. I remember that back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat because he was always blaming some cheese or inbalance, which ended up in him being eternally mediocre (just remember how his games against F91; a more mature player would have learnt a lot from the match, he didn't learnt jack shit. He just came up with a childish rant).

However, the decision to quit a game early is really not something I would blame him for. In his interview he gave extremely good and detailed reasons why he thought the game was lost. In that case in a BOX, it's better to give up and concentrate on next game rather than suffering for half an hour while your opponent triomphs and put yourself in a harder spot for next game...


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


back to his BW day he could never learn anything from is defeat - which ended up in him being eternally mediocre


Never learn anything eh? Didn't happen to be one of the best foreign players if not the best, during his prime, to ever play BW no? He must not have learned to much from losing games, it was all pure and raw talent, no analysis of his losses. Also he was definitely mediocre hahaha

Please remove yourself from the discussion when you say things such as this, it reflects poorly on your entire post which was, for the most part, kinda... no I'm just trying to make you feel better, stawwwp it, pleaseee.

On the flip side any news on what IdrA is doing? I heard casting with TB no?


Idra the best foreigner in bw? Uhhhh no im sorry but NEVER.

Mondi and Testie were better, Mondi more so, Mondragon was considered the best foreigner by many. He had competition for the title obviously, Idra wasn't one. Sorry.


I'm pretty sure that IdrA in his peak when he was playing BW in korea, was of a higher skill level than mondragon at his peak, IMO.

He may have had the mechanics, but he was far from the best foreign player at the time.


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