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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16627 Posts
May 16 2013 15:24 GMT
#1221
On May 17 2013 00:12 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
I like how half your post is about dead people

Not a fan of Oats allowing Rayn's claim to less time IN GAME effect his read. That is a really stupid thing to do. Unfortunately its a stupid thing I think Oats would do as either town or scum. Oats: if it is said in game it is a lie until proven otherwise.

Where?

Also, my vote was stolen, and there was an anonymous vote on Hiro if im not mistaken. So yeah im totally confirmed town now.


Will find it for you. And no there was a vote miscounted on hiro. I really don't like you calling yourself confirmed town over this. Fuck I wish you still sucked butts at scum so I could meta read you.

Oh
But yeah format of pm was 'your vote was stolen bla bla'
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 15:36 GMT
#1222
On May 16 2013 12:22 slOosh wrote:
Also, if you choose to use [REDACTED], whatever that means, please support it with something else within the thread.


Redacted is a ongoing game in which Kush has died and flipped town and WoS is still alive in.


Oooh oats says that the PM said stolen. Doesn't jive with in-game actions as no stolen vote has appeared.

Oh lol, of course Rayn and Viv get hit.I wanted to talk to them about things. Bastards. 3 NK though. I will look back at Vivax re: shooting. If he did shoot oats is townier if he didn't I'm confused, unless chooser was hit n1? He claimed RB and Kita was JK. Or regular medic saves/vets.

Oats too sure that Vivax shot vayne. Oats: why are you sure that 1: Vivax shot and 2: he shot vayne?

I guess everyone assumed this though. WoS/bh please answer the above too.

Oooh, WoS with dat me/bh exclusion train. Why not put VE on that list? If its good vets he should be there too.

WoS, I'm with bh, well not really, but I do not understand your stance on this shit at all. Why him and me? Besides being vets I don't see the connection (I finally don't feel weird calling myself a vet, in and of Itself that is weird) like yeah, I had initial suspicions on you and bh tunnelled you. Those are both things that happened in the thread that involved you, is that the connection?

BH, why OO over WoS, wasn't WoS 10/10 super confirmed scum?

It's time for a new wagon, wake up town there is a vet looking at the noose:
##vote: VE
Go read my mega post for why, but TL:DR his play regarding OO is all kinds of not VE, if he had a strong town read on one of his favourite players he'd fight against that lynch not limp dick his way onto the wagon citing me as the reason for his vote.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 15:39 GMT
#1223
It was actually OO who said that stuff I said Oats said! I'm dumb. Sorry Oats. OO, you dumb?I didn't think soon the past, ahhhhh mindfuck.

On May 15 2013 16:53 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First, Sloosh and your case:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 14 2013 00:55 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
That was the absolutely worst vig shot in the history of mafia
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Or scum decided to kill a dude under pressure.

How can it be both a bad vig shot and a bad scum shot? This makes no sense at all.


In light of the DarthPunk flip I went back and reread people's stances on him. Because he had so much spotlight on him, scum would be compelled to make an opinion on him, or at least comment on him. What is important is to see how people justify their suspicions / read on him - town players have straightforward explanations while mafia try to make stuff up. Out of them, rayn sticks out the most:

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's not optimal. It's stupid or mafia.

(1)This is a classic mafia tactic. Push and lynch people for being bad, not scum.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean it's not optimal to claim miller if you don't know the exact number of delf-aware millers. What Hiro said, it only allows mafia to get away with claiming it right in the beginning. If you are town you should never be checked by a cop.

(2)Here rayn implicitly calls DarthPunk mafia without actually doing so. He is pushing the idea that because it is "not optimal" that he is scum upon a ridiculous premise. "If you are town you shouldn't be checked". Read that out loud to yourself. It's nonsense. If that was the case then cops would always land red checks. Rayn is justifying his vote with bad (read non existent) reasoning.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:28 Vivax wrote:
Rayn what do you make of Kita calling WoS scum without reason and then more or less disappearing?


I dunno what to make of it. Maybe he will explain it, maybe not, i'll judge later. I'm more interested in DP defending his claim as "what only townie would do" and then saying he is a good scum player and would never draw attention to himself like that as scum. If he thinks this is optimal town play, why so defensive?

And calling people who think claiming miller is scummy stupid/scum is ridiculous. I would atm lynch him based purely on that.

(3)Avoiding giving opinions on kitaman(!!!) and draws attention back on DarthPunk. Then proceeds to ask a loaded question.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Only think I don't like about your claim is why N0, DP?
You're calling for us to waste a vigi shot that could be put to possible better use later on in the game.


you don't have to shoot now.... Like obviously I don't want to die. I would RATHER be vigged than lynched though. if it comes to that. Hopefully you can all read my alignment by all the posts I am making clearly outlining the reasons behind my actions.

How about you stop defending your sole action and start scumhunting instead?

(4)Another loaded question, pushing suspicion on him without any justification.

##Vote raynpelikoneet

1) No it's not. It's an opinion that i expressed as simple as it was possible. I think claiming miller in a setup where the number (or existance) of millers is not known is stupid or scum.

2) The bolded part you quoted; I think as town you should play as pro-town as possible, right? Cops do not check people they think are town right? I didn't understand why DP, at the start of the game, was worried about being checked by a cop. For me it seemed like he was scum who was afraid of being checked. I hope you get what i mean.

3 and 4) As is said, i unfortunately have limited time. I was not interested in kitaman at that time, i did not know what to make of him calling WoS scum that early in the game, so i ignored it. I wanted to hear more from DP, and wanted him to do something else than to defend himself. Everyone was discussing him at that moment, i wanted to know what else than his claim was on his mind.

If i got something else to clarify to you, ask me.



About why i am voting for OO:

What Prome said about OO and OO having an explanation to the DP night kill. In top of that DP was suspicious of OO, makes sense. Another thing that's very very odd from OO:

OO called me out for meta reasons. I then posted in thread that i have a tight work schedule. What does OO answer:
On May 14 2013 03:04 ObviousOne wrote:
Oh does this mean you are more busy than last game, Rayn? I'll keep that in mind then.

As far as my comment, it's exactly what it said. You asked a shit load of questions last game as town and it worked very well for a) me seeing that we were having similar thought processes and b) you generated a lot of things to analyze by prodding people. I wasn't seeing that from you so far here but if that's due to a change in your schedule then that potentially changes my expectations of town you in this scenario.

In my opinion this has nothing to do with meta, at all. If i post less i post less, but i still act as i usually do whatever my alignment is. OO is dropping his meta scum-read on me because of my work schedule. How does that make sense? Right, it doesn't, unless he knows i'm town and made up a meta read on me before i was even able to fully contribute to anything but DP-stuff.


shiro: You are saying that if WoS is town i am scum. How does that make sense? Are you saying i am not able to form town reads on people other people think is scum? I have given my reasons why i think WoS is town, are they bullshit? Elaborate please.

Rayn do you need me to explain why I would say that? You will be around less time = you will ask fewer, but perhaps more poignant questions and I'm used to seeing you questioning just about everything as town. I wasn't seeing that ultra-inquisitive Rayn I'm used to seeing, and your retro-active explanation for not being around to question everything as it's happening changed how I felt from you being potentially scum to null for that reason. Kinda late to be responding to this but I have my mojo back so I'm hitting up everything in the thread as I re-read, so whatevs, there you go.

TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16627 Posts
May 16 2013 15:41 GMT
#1224
Oats too sure that Vivax shot vayne. Oats: why are you sure that 1: Vivax shot and 2: he shot vayne?

Because of reasons.
Vivax flipped Vigi. Vigi's usually shoot early. Vayne is perfect vigi shot.

Vayne is sucky any other alignment shot.
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 15:47 GMT
#1225
On May 17 2013 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
Oats too sure that Vivax shot vayne. Oats: why are you sure that 1: Vivax shot and 2: he shot vayne?

Because of reasons.
Vivax flipped Vigi. Vigi's usually shoot early. Vayne is perfect vigi shot.

Vayne is sucky any other alignment shot.


True enough. Any filter proof?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16627 Posts
May 16 2013 15:57 GMT
#1226
On May 17 2013 00:47 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats too sure that Vivax shot vayne. Oats: why are you sure that 1: Vivax shot and 2: he shot vayne?

Because of reasons.
Vivax flipped Vigi. Vigi's usually shoot early. Vayne is perfect vigi shot.

Vayne is sucky any other alignment shot.


True enough. Any filter proof?

none.
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 16:00 GMT
#1227
Answer the questions in my mega post. Address my points on VE. I'm going to leave the coffee shop soon so do hurry.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16627 Posts
May 16 2013 16:16 GMT
#1228
I dont see questions that have not already been answered/resolved.
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 16:21 GMT
#1229
You are right. I somehow switched you and OO a lot in my mind. Why must your names both start with O and both be qts who I talk to all the time on Skype!?

Address points on VE
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 16 2013 16:26 GMT
#1230
Getting back to thread now. Questions will attempt to be answered (those I have answers to).

But first of all, Jesus christ Prom that post. Knob gobblers made me laugh though, and once again you appear to be the only one with a head screwed on tight enough (at least of those who bother to actually participate in this game) to point out the real ridiculousness of some of play thus far.

I agree my 'boner for me' as you put is probably something I should stop doing but I just can't fight this feeeelinggggg

Nothing yet regarding the you/BH split as I've only just skimmed what I missed since I left.
Gonna go back and re-read your monstrosity now and see if there's anything outstanding before I begin the day.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16627 Posts
May 16 2013 16:30 GMT
#1231
On May 17 2013 01:21 Promethelax wrote:
You are right. I somehow switched you and OO a lot in my mind. Why must your names both start with O and both be qts who I talk to all the time on Skype!?

Address points on VE

Totes qtpie. <3

Um.
I dont see it in your mega post, much about VE and his read on OO and behavior surrounding it. I would love to lynch me a vet though, make it happen
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#1232
Yeah the formatting was less than ideal. Read the EBWOP not the first one. Sticking around to talk to WoS and hear back from oats about VE.

Just realized how vulgar I am. Good thing there are no children here.

WoS the me bh thing is important to me, and hopefully the rest of town. Please give updates ASAP.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 16:34 GMT
#1233
On May 17 2013 01:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:21 Promethelax wrote:
You are right. I somehow switched you and OO a lot in my mind. Why must your names both start with O and both be qts who I talk to all the time on Skype!?

Address points on VE

Totes qtpie. <3

Um.
I dont see it in your mega post, much about VE and his read on OO and behavior surrounding it. I would love to lynch me a vet though, make it happen


There was an excellent TL:DR with my vote. Read it and respond. Less of the bullshit more of the content. Now.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16627 Posts
May 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#1234
On May 17 2013 01:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
But first of all, Jesus christ Prom that post. Knob gobblers made me laugh though, and once again you appear to be the only one with a head screwed on tight enough (at least of those who bother to actually participate in this game) to point out the real ridiculousness of some of play thus far.

Why must you shittalk half the people in this game?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16627 Posts
May 16 2013 16:37 GMT
#1235
Go read my mega post for why, but TL:DR his play regarding OO is all kinds of not VE, if he had a strong town read on one of his favourite players he'd fight against that lynch not limp dick his way onto the wagon citing me as the reason for his vote.

Um. Yeah. you can say all these. But I wanna see,
STRONG TOWN READ ON PLAYER
LIMP DICKING WAGON SHEEPING
PROME HIS SHEPERD.

like quotes and such.
Sure that sounds real scummy, but you could just be making it up.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 16 2013 16:42 GMT
#1236
On May 17 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
But first of all, Jesus christ Prom that post. Knob gobblers made me laugh though, and once again you appear to be the only one with a head screwed on tight enough (at least of those who bother to actually participate in this game) to point out the real ridiculousness of some of play thus far.

Why must you shittalk half the people in this game?

Hey babes.
You still haven't pointed out how I've lied by the way.

And show me how I'm shit-talking half the people in the game. Are half the people constantly tunneling me for absolutely ridiculous reasons? I'd be more inclined to undesrtand when people vote for me if they sat back and actually thought about what they're doing but you?

HAY GUISE LOOK HE THINKS VIVAX IS GOOD BLUE HE MUST BE SCUM.

Now shush. I'm reading.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 16:47 GMT
#1237
On May 17 2013 01:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
Go read my mega post for why, but TL:DR his play regarding OO is all kinds of not VE, if he had a strong town read on one of his favourite players he'd fight against that lynch not limp dick his way onto the wagon citing me as the reason for his vote.

Um. Yeah. you can say all these. But I wanna see,
STRONG TOWN READ ON PLAYER
LIMP DICKING WAGON SHEEPING
PROME HIS SHEPERD.

like quotes and such.
Sure that sounds real scummy, but you could just be making it up.


Or you could stop being a lazy butthead and do it yourself since quoting on a tablet is a fucking whore.

WoS: shuttup, finish catching up and come back. I'm on limited time and I wanted to talk to you after you've caught up.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 16 2013 16:49 GMT
#1238
Ugh. Staahp. I'm town don't dude.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2013 16:52 GMT
#1239
Oh snap, I'm convinced
##unvote

No wait, that's not right is it?

##vote: VE

Convince me bish. Explain your OO floppy flips.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 16 2013 16:54 GMT
#1240
I will. I will also tell you whom to vote, accompanied by a supporting case.

You ha ve my word. In fact, I don't even want you to unvote me: call it incentive.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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