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On April 22 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.
But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.
People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.
BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play.
Is yamato super scummy or is it just me? I mean I know he has some sort of IRL excuse (which I dont recall reading about myself actually) but dear lord he is scummy.
He "doesn't like" that a noob is being a noob... WTF does that mean?
Then he lists off some easy targets who haven't been here and say they "irk" him. Then BM is sketch.
these words are very wishy washy.
Also his comment on BM is really dumb reasoning compared to his usual town reasoning.
TLDR, no conviction behind anything
yamato
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On April 22 2013 11:54 ShiaoPi wrote:Sooo....more or less caught up now. Let's first clarify my stance on BM: I was curious if anyone would just jump on it without too much reasoning. Now on BM in general I loathe his play as it is fucking terrible as town, look at the endgame of LVII for more details. Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 10:56 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 10:44 ShiaoPi wrote:@ObviousOne: Which post are you referring to? This one: + Show Spoiler +On April 20 2013 14:20 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2013 13:56 Ace wrote:
*looks at player list*
*shakes head in a bored way knowing he will lynch Bill Murray with ease Day 1* but but....he is EVIL??!!! or this one: + Show Spoiler +On March 25 2013 17:59 ShiaoPi wrote:I actually wanted to /in but then I saw grush and BM in the playerlist.....not again...never again.../obs or if you want a cohost with an East asian timezone, I'd be up for that too  Still got shittons of catching up to do, just saw that as I scrolled over the last page ShiaoPi, at your earliest possible convenience I would like you to tell me how you feel about Raynepelikoneet, TheRavensName, Hopeless1nder, and one person of your choosing. I'll accept as low as one sentence on the first 3, but whoever you choose I'd like you to write something of decent size about. Raynepelikoneet: Nothing to see here. TheRavensName: Just some noobing around. Hopeless1nder: Also nothing of note here. There you go, one sentence each. You also asked to have something on someone else with decent size? I CHOOSE YOU SHARRANT! In all seriousness, I do not like the direction your posting is going to: You begin by heaping suspicion on TRN with some crap arguments and drop you vote. I would not take offense if this was just used in terms of pressuring someone who's play you think is lackluster. However you do not even refer to him again as scummy as soon as other people said that they thought he was noob. TRN is absent during this time but even after he returns you seem to have conveniently forgotten his existence when you saw that nothing was sticking. I mean you do not even take into account the post TRN made after he popped back in: + Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 10:32 TheRavensName wrote:Thank you for directing me to the podcast. I ended up listening to it while I did some work and read the thread before having to run off to do some errands. Huge help in making me understand a little bit more. Still not sure I understand how spam is town, but apparently the expliantion is spam is townie... Since basically they said if your really active no one will want to kill you and that seems like good scum motivation too. + Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 04:56 Sharrant wrote:
@TheRavensName
Who would you like to lynch right now?
Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere?
Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town?
Since I was asked, I have been in the last 3 NMM games in a row, your free to find them yourself (Isn't there a big database of games?) but I don't really think I can read into how I playbecause I ended up playing differently all three games. I don't know how Oats plays so I dunno if he really just spams that much at the start, so I will ignore that. I like how he points out the thing about Palmer's town read and trying to act like it was super awesome when it didn't do much so yea.... I feel like its a good point and its the only thing of any real substance in his filter. So, I would like to see something that seems more useful; I don't want to make a judgement off of basically one real point repeated a few points. I would be against lynching Rayn. In one of the Newbie games we played together we were in a similar situation and he took the opportunity to rip through me and just tunnel the entire game, so I think if he was scum this would be unlike him and I feel like I could have been a pretty easy push if he wanted to since he managed to basically do it before off less, even if there are much better people here who could see through it. (Unless he wantsto be my budy. dun dun dun.) In the same vain, I think Sharrant started out by taking a really easy way out of attacking me right out the gate and then just focuses on me and pushes around till hearing a few people saying that I was at least not scum, and then hops on Rayn without any real expliantion besides that hes going after BM for the miller soft claim and the fact that BM seems to be being useless, but that makes Ray more scummy then BM or someone else when Ray is actually being fairly active? So based off what I can figure out, I dislike Sharrant. He was convinced I was vote worthy, then hoped off before I got a chance to respond, but doesn't want to make a comment on BM til lBM shows up. Seems sketchy for me, and would probably be my vote target at the moment, but there is plenty of reading to be done and lots of time for more things to read.  Now if I recall correctly your potential scumlist right now should read something like: Rayne, TRN, Sylencia ? Soooo what happened to your read on TRN?
Oh, no, I have been paying close attention to TRN.
But I would like you to be somewhat explicit here before I answer. Are you calling me scum?
Because you've given yourself an out in your post, and I don't like that. Tell me that you think I'm scum, or tell me that you think I'm a townie whose posts you dislike, because right now you've only said you dislike how my posts are going.
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Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy
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On April 22 2013 10:33 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 10:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is me being 'wrong' make me scummy giygas.
Also was me asking VE what made Palmar town trying to dissuade a town read, or trying to solidify my read?
What is the difference and why does that make me scummy? You being 'wrong' isn't really anything against you, I just figured I might as well add it in. Actively trying to spread suspicion by stopping town reads is what scum wants to do. When I read it it seemed to me that you wanted to dissuade a town read. Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 10:21 kushm4sta wrote:
Giygas as your self appointed lawyer I must remind you that you do not have to answer any of these questions, as you have not yet been charged with a crime. Thanks kush, haha.
Right, so Im scum because I questioned VE's town read on Palmar off 1 post when VE offered no explanation other than, 'only town palmar does this'. Makes a whole lotta sense.
OO I explained why I found the first post of Palmar scummy earlier, short summery was that he asked the thread to discuss a townread rather than a scumread and I found that pointless and useless this stage of the game. Palmar day 1 either lurks like a fucker or is useful. So far not useful but I like his responses after that. Also VE has decent reads and Im feeling like town VE although I apparently cant read him. DONT CARE.
Bleh,
Dont really feel anyone is particularly scummy other than yamato for showing up and fucking off without doing ANYTHING.
Possibly Sylencia but he does this shit every game town or mafia. Although his last town game he posted longer stuff. So really really superficial read on his post length makes him SCUM. Then yamato isnt. But whatever.
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On April 22 2013 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.
But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.
People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.
BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play. Is yamato super scummy or is it just me? I mean I know he has some sort of IRL excuse (which I dont recall reading about myself actually) but dear lord he is scummy. He "doesn't like" that a noob is being a noob... WTF does that mean? Then he lists off some easy targets who haven't been here and say they "irk" him. Then BM is sketch. these words are very wishy washy. Also his comment on BM is really dumb reasoning compared to his usual town reasoning. TLDR, no conviction behind anything yamato
Look up a dictionary and tell me where "sketch" and "irk" imply indecisiveness and I'll take this post seriously.
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On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy
That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town.
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On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town.
What made you change your mind?
This response is terribly lacking....
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WoS you called me lazy, and then attacked my read on Ray. But you haven't really flat out said anything about ray only kinda said he maybe could be scum, and you flat out ignored the chance to make a comment on Sharrent, who also has been the subject of at least a little bit of discussion. This urks me a bit by association.
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On April 22 2013 12:04 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.
But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.
People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.
BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play. Is yamato super scummy or is it just me? I mean I know he has some sort of IRL excuse (which I dont recall reading about myself actually) but dear lord he is scummy. He "doesn't like" that a noob is being a noob... WTF does that mean? Then he lists off some easy targets who haven't been here and say they "irk" him. Then BM is sketch. these words are very wishy washy. Also his comment on BM is really dumb reasoning compared to his usual town reasoning. TLDR, no conviction behind anything yamato Look up a dictionary and tell me where "sketch" and "irk" imply indecisiveness and I'll take this post seriously.
In the context of forum mafia they do.
what do they imply?
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On April 22 2013 12:07 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town. What made you change your mind? This response is terribly lacking....
Cause he asked like four people and that was about the response he got each time before he pounced ray.
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On April 22 2013 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Did you take a look at WoS? You asked me to give us someone to talk about, i responded: Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 11:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah, that and the fact that he didn't vote for Oats in the first place (when he posted last time - his three point post). Suddenly Oats has become a good enough candidate to vote for now, when he has not posted between those posts. I'm interested in knowing what made him change his mind.
Let's talk about WoS. Just read his filter and he is not really seeming to have any strong opinions about anything, just commenting on stuff. What do you think?
WoS is someone I'm not particularly confident in either way. I like that he seems to be stepping on a lot of toes, and getting into a lot of clashes with people. His attitude strikes me as quite carefree, which is usually a town trait, I'd have to look into more games of his to confirm that as I only briefly read him in Hydra II (I think he was with Mr Cheesecake and was town).
I don't like that I feel that I have to read between the lines to figure out who he thinks is scum, and who he thinks is town. I would feel more comfortable with him explicitly stating his reads, as I believe we agree on several town reads.
I do not think he is a good lynch today, most likely not on day 2 either. However if his play continues to skirt around issues I would be more interested in lynching him.
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On April 22 2013 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:04 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2013 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.
But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.
People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.
BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play. Is yamato super scummy or is it just me? I mean I know he has some sort of IRL excuse (which I dont recall reading about myself actually) but dear lord he is scummy. He "doesn't like" that a noob is being a noob... WTF does that mean? Then he lists off some easy targets who haven't been here and say they "irk" him. Then BM is sketch. these words are very wishy washy. Also his comment on BM is really dumb reasoning compared to his usual town reasoning. TLDR, no conviction behind anything yamato Look up a dictionary and tell me where "sketch" and "irk" imply indecisiveness and I'll take this post seriously. In the context of forum mafia they do. what do they imply?
Suspicious activity has been detected in the vicinity of the Oats/CC/VE/BM area.
Proceed with caution.
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On April 22 2013 12:13 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:07 ShiaoPi wrote:On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town. What made you change your mind? This response is terribly lacking.... Cause he asked like four people and that was about the response he got each time before he pounced ray.
I want to hear him answer and also why the fuck vote somebody if you are not convinced? He did not even use to vote to pressure further just jumped to ray as soon as he could.
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Dear Yamato,
In hydra we were on a similar page for much of day 1. In PYP it was easy to discern your alignment in the picking phase. It's nearing 24 hours in and I have no read on you. What changed?
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On April 22 2013 12:14 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 12:04 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2013 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.
But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.
People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.
BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play. Is yamato super scummy or is it just me? I mean I know he has some sort of IRL excuse (which I dont recall reading about myself actually) but dear lord he is scummy. He "doesn't like" that a noob is being a noob... WTF does that mean? Then he lists off some easy targets who haven't been here and say they "irk" him. Then BM is sketch. these words are very wishy washy. Also his comment on BM is really dumb reasoning compared to his usual town reasoning. TLDR, no conviction behind anything yamato Look up a dictionary and tell me where "sketch" and "irk" imply indecisiveness and I'll take this post seriously. In the context of forum mafia they do. what do they imply? Suspicious activity has been detected in the vicinity of the Oats/CC/VE/BM area. Proceed with caution.
VE's lack of posting worries me but I do recall having an early townread on him. I can't read Oats worth a shit, CC I'm not sure of yet one way or another and BM....well we still gotta wait on see.
Yamato can you do me a favour and expand on your read of TRN? The analysis in your read coincides with mine but I'm honestly not sure what you mean by you 'not liking' him.
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On April 22 2013 12:14 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 12:04 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2013 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.
But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.
People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.
BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play. Is yamato super scummy or is it just me? I mean I know he has some sort of IRL excuse (which I dont recall reading about myself actually) but dear lord he is scummy. He "doesn't like" that a noob is being a noob... WTF does that mean? Then he lists off some easy targets who haven't been here and say they "irk" him. Then BM is sketch. these words are very wishy washy. Also his comment on BM is really dumb reasoning compared to his usual town reasoning. TLDR, no conviction behind anything yamato Look up a dictionary and tell me where "sketch" and "irk" imply indecisiveness and I'll take this post seriously. In the context of forum mafia they do. what do they imply? Suspicious activity has been detected in the vicinity of the Oats/CC/VE/BM area. Proceed with caution.
explain in one sentence for each player, what makes them scum?
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~~~ Vote Count! ~~~
Oatsmaster: Palmar, kushm4sta, GiygaS (3)
Hopeless1der: Vivax (1)
Bill Murray: raynpelikoneet (1)
Getmoript: Mr. Cheesecake, kushm4sta,WaveofShadow (0)
TheRavensName: Sharrant (0)
Raynepelikoneet: Sharrant (1)
Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)
With 25 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch.
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On April 22 2013 12:07 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town. What made you change your mind? This response is terribly lacking....
He realized that Rayn could be setting him up to give him town cred when he flipped. When Rayn stepped in to defend him I was sure TRN was either lynchbait, or one of Rayn's teammates. It seems more likely at this point he is lynchbait. TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, but a very good chance of attracting mafia attention either by virtue of A) being a weak player which they can use as town credit or to manipulate or B) was a weak mafia player who they could protect while looking like they're just trying to help out the new player.
Rayn came in with a town read on him whose strength did not match what I had read in TRN's filter, so he was the person I was looking for.
I find it interesting you see nothing at all to discuss between Rayn and Hopeless.
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Wait what Sharrant.. Are you seriously saying that i'm trying to gain credit from town!TRN lynch on D1 as mafia? That's your conclusion?
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On April 22 2013 12:24 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:07 ShiaoPi wrote:On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town. What made you change your mind? This response is terribly lacking.... He realized that Rayn could be setting him up to give him town cred when he flipped. When Rayn stepped in to defend him I was sure TRN was either lynchbait, or one of Rayn's teammates. It seems more likely at this point he is lynchbait. TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, but a very good chance of attracting mafia attention either by virtue of A) being a weak player which they can use as town credit or to manipulate or B) was a weak mafia player who they could protect while looking like they're just trying to help out the new player. Rayn came in with a town read on him whose strength did not match what I had read in TRN's filter, so he was the person I was looking for. I find it interesting you see nothing at all to discuss between Rayn and Hopeless.
At least more content than your last answer. If TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, why did you vote him? Isn't that fulfilling your own conclusion that you are mafia, by virtue of going after the lynchbait? What the fuck dude?
Now what do you make of all the others who also defended TRN? All team mafia??
What do you say about Ace and others who also had a townread (or at least null) on TRN?
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