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I had a similar thought regarding risk.nuke. Why bring up the Kenpachi Rule at all if he had no intention of following it? My thoughts brought me to "He's scummy". He's either:
1) Scum trying to incriminate RoL innocuously by "joking" about Kenpachi Rule. 2) Town trying to trap someone into agreeing with his assessment and voting RoL.
I ruled out 2 by asking him if he thought RoL was scum because of it, and he doesn't, which leaves 1).
##Vote: risk.nuke
Conversely I'm very null on RoL. Abhorring my play-style is very NOT alignment indicative for that guy.
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##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you?
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Sigh, I could sense you were heading in that way Viscera. However my actions only look meaningless and scummy after you put me in a situation where I couldn't have the cookie and eat it.
I was scumhunting. Nothing of real worth was happening and an opportunity opened to fish for reactions, what I mostly wanted was RoL's reaction and or if someone else appeared to comment on RoL. However you cornered me instantly and asked me what I thought about it which was something I wanted to avoid. Because answering that would be eating my cookie. And here we are.
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For a group of people who just talked about the dangers of voting in a instant hammer game you guys are being pretty fucking reckless with your voting. I'm not sure if i have 3 or 4 votes on me now but all it takes in one or two careless players to come in and sheep and I loose my head.
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Can you point out where I've been talking about "the dangers of voting"? I'm pretty sure all I've talked about was how Lazer's and RoL's policies were retarded and unfair respectively.
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Perfect count
Risk.Nuke ( 3 ): Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, RebirthOfLeGenD VisceraEyes ( 0 ): RebirthOfLeGenD
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. This is instant majority lynch
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On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument?
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On April 02 2013 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Can you point out where I've been talking about "the dangers of voting"? I'm pretty sure all I've talked about was how Lazer's and RoL's policies were retarded and unfair respectively. Will you please god damn stop tunneling? The thread have talked about it, I assume you read the thread?
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On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument?
On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? No I don't. Doesn't seem all that legit to me.
On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town.
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On April 02 2013 10:46 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Can you point out where I've been talking about "the dangers of voting"? I'm pretty sure all I've talked about was how Lazer's and RoL's policies were retarded and unfair respectively. Will you please god damn stop tunneling? The thread have talked about it, I assume you read the thread? How can I be tunneling in a game that's not even 6hrs old? Nothing else is even happening for me to look at otherwise risk. If you think I should be looking at other scummy shit, feel free to point me in the right direction, but your scummy shit is the only scummy shit I've seen in the thread.
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If I was scum I could just have claimed I believe strongly in the Kenpachi rule and talked about it's high accuracy and incriminated RoL for it. I would legitly look as if I were scumhunting and doing stuff at the same time as I would be pushing my mafia agenda.
Instead I told the truth of what I believed in which made me look worse. Why did I do that, because I am mafia and retarded or because I am town and interested in finding scum, not just looking like I'm trying to find scum.
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Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling.
You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting. For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum.
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On April 02 2013 10:59 risk.nuke wrote: If I was scum I could just have claimed I believe strongly in the Kenpachi rule and talked about it's high accuracy and incriminated RoL for it. I would legitly look as if I were scumhunting and doing stuff at the same time as I would be pushing my mafia agenda.
Instead I told the truth of what I believed in which made me look worse. Why did I do that, because I am mafia and retarded or because I am town and interested in finding scum, not just looking like I'm trying to find scum.
This is my point entirely. You told "the truth". Why? If your intention was really to "fish for reactions" then why did you tell me the truth at all? It's as if you KNOW I'm town and didn't want to look scummy for saying something as asinine as "RoL is scum because he contested VE's town-claim".
The fact that it "looks worse" now is completely irrelevant because at the time, you had no way of knowing whether telling the truth would look good or bad. What you did know, however, is that telling the truth would completely invalidate your "totally legit scumhunting tactics". So why do it?
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote:On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ##unvote: VE ##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument? Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote:On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? No I don't. Doesn't seem all that legit to me.
Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote:On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote: Worst vote ever. On the contrary, best vote ever. I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal. Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town.
ghor think contradiction also very strong point.but ghor want long day. risk ok, risk on chopping block but no axe soon, axe later. wait for other information, milk day, find other scum. but that no scumslip, that was cc voting risk and risk saying he town and vote bad, you read thread pls hopeless.no offense.
For low probability that risk do stupid mistake as town, 3 vote on risk mean scum can kill risk together. if risk town he can play harder than everyone else now and know if he does not, he dead. but need other opinion from not posting people first.
no go quick with axe. Ploha.
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On April 02 2013 11:07 risk.nuke wrote: Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling.
You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting. For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum. But this isn't the case at all. I voted for you. In my vote post I even outline where I tried to consider a town motivation. I'm TRYING to keep an open mind, but you keep slamming it shut with appeals and bullshit. Like what do you mean "aggressively"? I've kept a cool head about this whole thing. You're the one freaking out bro, not me.
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Why did I tell the truth? Because lying as a townie is stupid? Regardless of how great a trap you think you're setting. I don't KNOW you're town but I did have and still have a townread on you.
There is no right or wrong answer about the Kenpachi Rule, some people believe strongly in it, some people believe less strongle. undeniably It has a high accuracy from statsistics but in my memory players who've been busted by it was generally newer players and doesn't neccersary mean the same thing for a player like RoL, but that wouldn't had been something I would have had to share with you now?
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On April 02 2013 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 11:07 risk.nuke wrote: Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling.
You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting. For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum. But this isn't the case at all. I voted for you. In my vote post I even outline where I tried to consider a town motivation. I'm TRYING to keep an open mind, but you keep slamming it shut with appeals and bullshit. Like what do you mean "aggressively"? I've kept a cool head about this whole thing. You're the one freaking out bro, not me. the lashing out is about when I said people had talked about instant hammer, and you asked me to point out where YOU specifically had talked about it, even though I never said you specifically had.
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I can't (or shouldn't) stay up any longer. I'll be back tomorrow.
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On April 02 2013 11:18 risk.nuke wrote: Why did I tell the truth? Because lying as a townie is stupid? Regardless of how great a trap you think you're setting. I don't KNOW you're town but I did have and still have a townread on you.
There is no right or wrong answer about the Kenpachi Rule, some people believe strongly in it, some people believe less strongle. undeniably It has a high accuracy from statsistics but in my memory players who've been busted by it was generally newer players and doesn't neccersary mean the same thing for a player like RoL, but that wouldn't had been something I would have had to share with you now?
ghor not like this statement. ghor not think risk evaluated kenpachi rule with statistics. if he does he remember games where it worked. but does he know game where it not worked?ghor want proof. look like risk defend strange rule to save himself.
ghor think risk need tell what scummy about hopeless, risk said he look scummy. what make him more scummy than others who say privjet but no contribute?
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How is that lashing out or aggressive at all? The post in question:
On April 02 2013 10:37 risk.nuke wrote: For a group of people who just talked about the dangers of voting in a instant hammer game you guys are being pretty fucking reckless with your voting. I'm not sure if i have 3 or 4 votes on me now but all it takes in one or two careless players to come in and sheep and I loose my head.
This looks to me like the bolded statement and the italicized statement are referring to the same people...people voting for risk.nuke. As I'm voting for risk.nuke, I was curious as to how the bolded statement applied to me. That's not lashing out at all, it's questioning the motivation of your posting. It's not aggressive at all, it's inquisitive.
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