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I think that if TPS were town he would have at this point told us whether Vivax was guessing or not, because right now it makes both of them look scummy.
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And if he's town he'd rather clear Vivax's name from a potential mislynch than let him hang dry like that.
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On March 19 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
Does anyone else find suspicious how 3 of the guys I have in my case pop in to talk about a lot of other stuff, one says I'm likely to get NKd and then just disappear and ignore my relevant question?
Sorry, I realize you are from Italy and English might not be your native language. I don't in the remotest sense think that there is even the slightest possibility of you dying tonight. There is literally no reason to kill you.
My point was that posting 5 suspects is pointless when you can only feasibly kill one of them a day. The only exception to that would of been if you thought you were in imminent danger of dying during this night cycle, which as I pointed out is incredibly unlikely.
On March 19 2013 02:16 Coagulation wrote:
im not suprised gm flips town. there were a good 4 or 5 lynch candidates yesterday and scum probably had no time pickin the one they wanted. We need to consolidate our votes/pressure day 2 or we gonna be in the same spot again.
I thought GM was scummy and wanted to let it play out which is why I never said anything earlier in the day. When I saw the choices between him and Zarepath I chose GM. I had GM as scummy in my notes and I felt he only got worse since I had updated them.
My notes indicate that I thought Zarepath was leaning town but upon rereading his posts I found that I thought he was more scummy than I initially thought with his first few posts.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 16 2013 22:05 zarepath wrote:In the last game I played, literally every single person who claimed town in their opening post was scum. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town yadda yadda. BH you wanna try and get a read on me before I go to bed? VE did say in the analysis that he always claims town no matter what, though. But seriously, what is the town motivation for claiming town so early? There's more scum motivation than town motivation. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe next time sport. Tell me, what do you make of geript and his RNG shenanigans? It's said that he RNG'd before the game started and that rather than using the name he drew, he RNG'd AGAIN when the game started! How exciting is that?!
Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! Yeah, I reject this notion for obvious reasons, but also for the fact that this is already an association case, isn't it? Granted, I suppose if you assume that there are scum motivations for him switching his RNG, the most obvious reason would be because his original RNG was going to hit scum. But wasn't he told he couldn't use that anyway and have it count as a real RNG? And again, you're already operating on the assumption the switch was scum-motivated. VE's super awesome team sounds dumb. I can't see how any self-respecting scum hunter would agree to unite their votes with 4 other active people no matter what. And honestly, don't the self-respecting scum hunters kind of unite with each other as they prove themselves to each other anyway? I am much more in favor of a "lead scumhunting team" coming about organically from the good scum-hunters recognizing each other as being good than VE deciding who is good and then telling them how to vote. Also, I find all role and setup speculation stupid at this point; even regarding the fact that the OP suggests the possibility of victory conditions changing throughout the game, I don't see how town is better served in finding scum through role speculation without any information with which to base it on, and I don't see why town would want to do anything other than promote a pro-town atmosphere and find scum on the first day regardless of the setup. /offtopic: flavor is awesome  On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote:EBWOP: As an addendum to my final paragraph, that is why I find Peashooter's opening content to be pretty scummy. Honestly, any player could have gone through and guessed at roles based on the titles (and probably did; I did as I skimmed them), but I think it's hardly worth talking about right now. I echo Wave Fell's sentiments here about Peashooter's likely scumminess. Now that I think about it, VE's talk about tarot cards seems especially useless. Another addendum to Coagulation's instant role claim : the very first thing he did after that was apply to the SAST, which is going to look pro-town without actually being pro-town. An addendum to my problems with the SAST: I am not certain as to whether or not VE seriously thought people would like his SAST idea. And one final thought: sciberbia was quick to point out that VE's tarot cards and Peashooter's speculation aren't that scummy (but I disagree and say they are more scummy than anything else so far, btw), and VE makes a good point in response: Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. And with those reactions, I am now off for the afternoon to help somebody move. On March 17 2013 04:54 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not familiar to heavily themed games but what makes me wonder here about the setup is the sheer number of roles. 17 to be exact. Are these all going to be roles with power?
And now off the topic of setup speculation a few things I noticed from the very beginning of the game:
BH playing exactly like I've seen him before, mega aggressive. It works fine for him, he hunts scum and succeeds.
Can't decide whether I like Geript's 'new troll-y' style of playing or not, but ultimately (as many have pointed out) it's probably better than the way he ended in LX.
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
Oh yeah one more thing: VE that SAST idea is retarded in my eyes, but makes me wonder about some sort of extra/3rd party wincon. Something like,' get a bunch of people to join your 3rd party group and successfully get 3-5 people mislynched' or some shit. I can't think of ANY other reason why you'd try to be serious about something that ridiculous. If you're serious about hunting scum, it's probably better you focus on that since you can be a huge asset to town when you're focused. This opening post seems kind of scummy to me. It begins with setup speculation that seems based in ignorance and not in a desire to hunt scum, continues to say that two players are consistent with their meta and he's not sure if he likes that or not, he decides he doesn't like SAST but then turns that into speculation as to a 3rd party wincon (????). Also notice the line thrown in the middle: Show nested quote +
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
It's an excuse for not hunting scum while saying to trust him, he's hunting scum. I would like to see more input from WoS on who he is suspicious of, and why.
He just keeps bitching about set up speculation and SAST neither ideas were worth more than a post or two of speculation but over 24 hours into the game he still focuses on this and contributes nothing else of value. It's like he META'd how talking about the set up too much is scummy so he chose to talk about people talking about the set up.
On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote:
Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far.
Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum.
The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive.
I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him.
I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk.
##Vote: DarthPunk
Call me an egotistic psychology major but the language used here just feels unnatural.
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##Apply: SAST
Rejoice! For I am Town!
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 02:36 ThePeashooter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
Does anyone else find suspicious how 3 of the guys I have in my case pop in to talk about a lot of other stuff, one says I'm likely to get NKd and then just disappear and ignore my relevant question? Sorry, I realize you are from Italy and English might not be your native language. I don't in the remotest sense think that there is even the slightest possibility of you dying tonight. There is literally no reason to kill you. My point was that posting 5 suspects is pointless when you can only feasibly kill one of them a day. The only exception to that would of been if you thought you were in imminent danger of dying during this night cycle, which as I pointed out is incredibly unlikely. Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:16 Coagulation wrote:
im not suprised gm flips town. there were a good 4 or 5 lynch candidates yesterday and scum probably had no time pickin the one they wanted. We need to consolidate our votes/pressure day 2 or we gonna be in the same spot again. I thought GM was scummy and wanted to let it play out which is why I never said anything earlier in the day. When I saw the choices between him and Zarepath I chose GM. I had GM as scummy in my notes and I felt he only got worse since I had updated them. My notes indicate that I thought Zarepath was leaning town but upon rereading his posts I found that I thought he was more scummy than I initially thought with his first few posts. + Show Spoiler +On March 16 2013 22:05 zarepath wrote:In the last game I played, literally every single person who claimed town in their opening post was scum. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town yadda yadda. BH you wanna try and get a read on me before I go to bed? VE did say in the analysis that he always claims town no matter what, though. But seriously, what is the town motivation for claiming town so early? There's more scum motivation than town motivation. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe next time sport. Tell me, what do you make of geript and his RNG shenanigans? It's said that he RNG'd before the game started and that rather than using the name he drew, he RNG'd AGAIN when the game started! How exciting is that?!
Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! Yeah, I reject this notion for obvious reasons, but also for the fact that this is already an association case, isn't it? Granted, I suppose if you assume that there are scum motivations for him switching his RNG, the most obvious reason would be because his original RNG was going to hit scum. But wasn't he told he couldn't use that anyway and have it count as a real RNG? And again, you're already operating on the assumption the switch was scum-motivated. VE's super awesome team sounds dumb. I can't see how any self-respecting scum hunter would agree to unite their votes with 4 other active people no matter what. And honestly, don't the self-respecting scum hunters kind of unite with each other as they prove themselves to each other anyway? I am much more in favor of a "lead scumhunting team" coming about organically from the good scum-hunters recognizing each other as being good than VE deciding who is good and then telling them how to vote. Also, I find all role and setup speculation stupid at this point; even regarding the fact that the OP suggests the possibility of victory conditions changing throughout the game, I don't see how town is better served in finding scum through role speculation without any information with which to base it on, and I don't see why town would want to do anything other than promote a pro-town atmosphere and find scum on the first day regardless of the setup. /offtopic: flavor is awesome On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote:EBWOP: As an addendum to my final paragraph, that is why I find Peashooter's opening content to be pretty scummy. Honestly, any player could have gone through and guessed at roles based on the titles (and probably did; I did as I skimmed them), but I think it's hardly worth talking about right now. I echo Wave Fell's sentiments here about Peashooter's likely scumminess. Now that I think about it, VE's talk about tarot cards seems especially useless. Another addendum to Coagulation's instant role claim : the very first thing he did after that was apply to the SAST, which is going to look pro-town without actually being pro-town. An addendum to my problems with the SAST: I am not certain as to whether or not VE seriously thought people would like his SAST idea. And one final thought: sciberbia was quick to point out that VE's tarot cards and Peashooter's speculation aren't that scummy (but I disagree and say they are more scummy than anything else so far, btw), and VE makes a good point in response: Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. And with those reactions, I am now off for the afternoon to help somebody move. On March 17 2013 04:54 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not familiar to heavily themed games but what makes me wonder here about the setup is the sheer number of roles. 17 to be exact. Are these all going to be roles with power?
And now off the topic of setup speculation a few things I noticed from the very beginning of the game:
BH playing exactly like I've seen him before, mega aggressive. It works fine for him, he hunts scum and succeeds.
Can't decide whether I like Geript's 'new troll-y' style of playing or not, but ultimately (as many have pointed out) it's probably better than the way he ended in LX.
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
Oh yeah one more thing: VE that SAST idea is retarded in my eyes, but makes me wonder about some sort of extra/3rd party wincon. Something like,' get a bunch of people to join your 3rd party group and successfully get 3-5 people mislynched' or some shit. I can't think of ANY other reason why you'd try to be serious about something that ridiculous. If you're serious about hunting scum, it's probably better you focus on that since you can be a huge asset to town when you're focused. This opening post seems kind of scummy to me. It begins with setup speculation that seems based in ignorance and not in a desire to hunt scum, continues to say that two players are consistent with their meta and he's not sure if he likes that or not, he decides he doesn't like SAST but then turns that into speculation as to a 3rd party wincon (????). Also notice the line thrown in the middle: Show nested quote +
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
It's an excuse for not hunting scum while saying to trust him, he's hunting scum. I would like to see more input from WoS on who he is suspicious of, and why. He just keeps bitching about set up speculation and SAST neither ideas were worth more than a post or two of speculation but over 24 hours into the game he still focuses on this and contributes nothing else of value. It's like he META'd how talking about the set up too much is scummy so he chose to talk about people talking about the set up. Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote:
Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far.
Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum.
The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive.
I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him.
I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk.
##Vote: DarthPunk Call me an egotistic psychology major but the language used here just feels unnatural.
Good, did you feel the arguments in my case were not enough to convince you or is there a particular reason you brought your own reasons?
How do you feel about my other reads?
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Let me get this case out before Ace replaces in. Take a look at his filter.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 16 2013 11:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
454471 Very pro-town here On March 16 2013 23:38 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 22:05 zarepath wrote:On March 16 2013 16:46 Coagulation wrote:
im town thank god In the last game I played, literally every single person who claimed town in their opening post was scum. On March 16 2013 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town yadda yadda. BH you wanna try and get a read on me before I go to bed? VE did say in the analysis that he always claims town no matter what, though. But seriously, what is the town motivation for claiming town so early? There's more scum motivation than town motivation. On March 16 2013 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe next time sport. Tell me, what do you make of geript and his RNG shenanigans? It's said that he RNG'd before the game started and that rather than using the name he drew, he RNG'd AGAIN when the game started! How exciting is that?!
Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! Yeah, I reject this notion for obvious reasons, but also for the fact that this is already an association case, isn't it? Granted, I suppose if you assume that there are scum motivations for him switching his RNG, the most obvious reason would be because his original RNG was going to hit scum. But wasn't he told he couldn't use that anyway and have it count as a real RNG? And again, you're already operating on the assumption the switch was scum-motivated. VE's super awesome team sounds dumb. I can't see how any self-respecting scum hunter would agree to unite their votes with 4 other active people no matter what. And honestly, don't the self-respecting scum hunters kind of unite with each other as they prove themselves to each other anyway? I am much more in favor of a "lead scumhunting team" coming about organically from the good scum-hunters recognizing each other as being good than VE deciding who is good and then telling them how to vote. Also, I find all role and setup speculation stupid at this point; even regarding the fact that the OP suggests the possibility of victory conditions changing throughout the game, I don't see how town is better served in finding scum through role speculation without any information with which to base it on, and I don't see why town would want to do anything other than promote a pro-town atmosphere and find scum on the first day regardless of the setup. /offtopic: flavor is awesome The use of anecdotal evidence to push a non-existent policy is pretty scummy here. Unless lynching townclaims has become a thing. Is this what the kenpachi rule is for, or is that only for kenpachi? So uh, how about the part where he directly acknowledges that VE always opens up with a "hai I'm town" to some degree, and in spite of this, the townclaim is scummy? It should be read as null, every time, unless there's some meta "tone" read that I can't pick up on. Overall, I read through this post and zarepath keeps playing devil's advocate with himself and answering his own questions. There is no mindset of wanting to solve the game to me. I think he's scum. I think that he assumes a LOT out of my post, and twists my words and tone quite a bit. I'm aware that this piece of evidence borders on OMGUS, but I objectively think that it's odd he jumps on my first post, but not other first posts that seem much more headscratchworthy. What bugs me is that he is certain I am scum because I am uncertain. I think the only certain people that early on Day 1 are scum. On March 18 2013 01:38 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 00:06 kitaman27 wrote:On March 17 2013 13:21 Vivax wrote:
Yamato i think coagulation is not a good choice for d1 for reasons wf pointed out ...is this a scum slip? As far as I know, ThePeashooter's identity as Yamato is not public knowledge. Was it revealed at any point in the thread? Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 13:21 Vivax wrote:
Yamato i think coagulation is not a good choice for d1 for reasons wf pointed out, gk isnt either i think.
Since i think you're the guy i just mentioned i might actually change my mind about you. Could you look at cosmicomics when you have time? Also sandro and especially his town meta. Never seen him make such an entrance. Its like he isn't sure TPS is 100%Yamato or something? Vivax seems to have some history of sniffing out smurfs, so maybe scumslip, maybe not. I will say that if it is Yam+Vivax again (See Fruity Mafia) that'd be kind of fucked up (but still possible). I dun got sniped =\
ZarepathI'm voting to lynch zarepath as supported by DYH and sciberbia , in addition to my initial reaction to zare. There's enough in the thread on him without me rehashing it. ##Vote: Zarepath
GKBH's meta argument about GK being town just doesnt do it for me. GK has done some scummy shit, like tearing into the SAST idea with malicious intent. Generally disruptive tactic, especially as it doesn't lead to VE being scum or town or anything. There is also his change in stance from sandroba is being reasonable in his assessment (@Ryu at the end) to sandroba lurks like a bawse as scum, so i'll vote him for being lurkerishIn that last read post, he's wishy washy on TPS, who seems to have a decent mob following his lynch, and who I also wouldn't mind seeing flip.
TPSMostly, I dislike TPS' tunnel into coagulation and assuming anti-town = scum, when multiple people can vouch for the fact that coag is just like this when he plays. If TPS is in fact Yamato he should know this. Again, see Fruity MafiaIf its not yamato, then TPS is still refusing to consider an established meta that suggests his initial reasons for calling coag are wrong. There is some merit in his followup, but if coag had reacted with less indignation, I feel he'd have nothing to continue his tunnel with. Also, quoting BH 100 times and then neglecting to want to lynch him is faking the rage to me. Would lynch. This is his biggest post, and he spends much more time on the people he's NOT voting for (but others are talking about), and mentioning that he wouldn't mind seeing them flip -- but his entire case on the person he IS voting for, zarepath, is "supported by X and Y." Why isn't it supported by arguments? Why is this constructed in terms of people supporting his read, and not on his read being confirmed by specific actions of mine? On March 18 2013 02:03 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:52 Vivax wrote:
@ Glurio, trance, Goodkarma
We currently have the same objectives for lynch I support either of the three candidates so we should probably pick the best out of them.
I feel like DYH has committed himself to posting that way and should not be prioritized. If he stops contributing we will notice and if he keeps it up we only gain more information about him so I think sandro and cosmicomics have higher priority.
Given cosmicomics strange defense by offense I think these two are possibly scumbuddies, more people might be opposed to lynching sandro cause he's considered (grrr...) a vet so maybe we should agree on cosmic?
Can you give your insight on what I wrote about him? I personally think you are wrong about cosmic. Or were you specifically asking the three you noted? He doesn't say why he thinks he's wrong. Just giving a town read without backing it up, and then doesn't go into the other two at all. On March 18 2013 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
The thread is all "sandroba lurk = scum".
GreYMisT is all "not enough to lynch, what else u got?". This isn't an argument, this is pitting GreyMist against "the thread." He's not thinking in terms of arguments; he's thinking in terms of The Thread. On March 18 2013 03:08 Hopeless1der wrote:But why? for "scumslip"? what else you got bro? Also, any thoughts on zarepath? He wants more on zarepath without offering anything else on zarepath. He cuts down an argument but doesn't break it apart or address it rationally; that's a little more null, though. On March 18 2013 03:53 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 03:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hoeless you too please, I think this is the lynch. DarthPunk. On the basis of the failed pressure vote, I don't find sufficient reason to call him scum. However, people need to learn that if you aren't willing to follow through, pressure voting is the same as typing "fuck you too" and calling it a day. On the basis of OMGUS'ing cosmic, DP will do that as either alignment. I also missed where he "goes after lurkers" as you accuse him of. He goes after geript for RNG bullshit and cosmic for "misinterpretations" His lack of real scum reads to date is the only thing that really concerns me. His argument with BH is that he found the reasons for defending GK wrong. Even if he town-read GK, I don't think this is a scummy or contradictory action. He also didn't really defend GK, he primarily wanted to defer lynching him because GK can be useful and DP says he can figure GK out. I'm not inclined to vote DP today. Hopeless has spent more energy on why people aren't scum than why they are. DP isn't scum, cosmic isn't scum, Vivax absolutely didn't make a slip, by the way, what do you think about zarepath? Then see this: On March 18 2013 04:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
Okay I'm seeing what's up with DP now. tbh I still want to lynch Zarepath, but I can consolidate onto DP if need be. To be fair he was modkilled after this, but it's odd how he's so incredibly consistent on his zarepath read, despite not adding to it or expanding upon it at all except for that one post at the beginning, but very inconsistent on his town read of DP -- based upon the need for consolidation, not upon the likeliness of scumminess. In the end I think the arc of his reads Day 1 was strange, and the framing of his arguments for the person he was most certain of voting for were very strange. I think that Hopeless1der is scum, and it's unfortunate that Ace, the person who literally wrote the book on playing TL scum, is replacing him.
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EBWOP: That is a case for Hopeless1der, and hence Ace, being scum.
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I hope ace is scum.. will be cool to see TL Finest in action doing what he is renowned for
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On March 19 2013 02:42 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 02:36 ThePeashooter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
Does anyone else find suspicious how 3 of the guys I have in my case pop in to talk about a lot of other stuff, one says I'm likely to get NKd and then just disappear and ignore my relevant question? Sorry, I realize you are from Italy and English might not be your native language. I don't in the remotest sense think that there is even the slightest possibility of you dying tonight. There is literally no reason to kill you. My point was that posting 5 suspects is pointless when you can only feasibly kill one of them a day. The only exception to that would of been if you thought you were in imminent danger of dying during this night cycle, which as I pointed out is incredibly unlikely. Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:16 Coagulation wrote:
im not suprised gm flips town. there were a good 4 or 5 lynch candidates yesterday and scum probably had no time pickin the one they wanted. We need to consolidate our votes/pressure day 2 or we gonna be in the same spot again. I thought GM was scummy and wanted to let it play out which is why I never said anything earlier in the day. When I saw the choices between him and Zarepath I chose GM. I had GM as scummy in my notes and I felt he only got worse since I had updated them. My notes indicate that I thought Zarepath was leaning town but upon rereading his posts I found that I thought he was more scummy than I initially thought with his first few posts. + Show Spoiler +On March 16 2013 22:05 zarepath wrote:In the last game I played, literally every single person who claimed town in their opening post was scum. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town yadda yadda. BH you wanna try and get a read on me before I go to bed? VE did say in the analysis that he always claims town no matter what, though. But seriously, what is the town motivation for claiming town so early? There's more scum motivation than town motivation. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe next time sport. Tell me, what do you make of geript and his RNG shenanigans? It's said that he RNG'd before the game started and that rather than using the name he drew, he RNG'd AGAIN when the game started! How exciting is that?!
Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! Yeah, I reject this notion for obvious reasons, but also for the fact that this is already an association case, isn't it? Granted, I suppose if you assume that there are scum motivations for him switching his RNG, the most obvious reason would be because his original RNG was going to hit scum. But wasn't he told he couldn't use that anyway and have it count as a real RNG? And again, you're already operating on the assumption the switch was scum-motivated. VE's super awesome team sounds dumb. I can't see how any self-respecting scum hunter would agree to unite their votes with 4 other active people no matter what. And honestly, don't the self-respecting scum hunters kind of unite with each other as they prove themselves to each other anyway? I am much more in favor of a "lead scumhunting team" coming about organically from the good scum-hunters recognizing each other as being good than VE deciding who is good and then telling them how to vote. Also, I find all role and setup speculation stupid at this point; even regarding the fact that the OP suggests the possibility of victory conditions changing throughout the game, I don't see how town is better served in finding scum through role speculation without any information with which to base it on, and I don't see why town would want to do anything other than promote a pro-town atmosphere and find scum on the first day regardless of the setup. /offtopic: flavor is awesome On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote:EBWOP: As an addendum to my final paragraph, that is why I find Peashooter's opening content to be pretty scummy. Honestly, any player could have gone through and guessed at roles based on the titles (and probably did; I did as I skimmed them), but I think it's hardly worth talking about right now. I echo Wave Fell's sentiments here about Peashooter's likely scumminess. Now that I think about it, VE's talk about tarot cards seems especially useless. Another addendum to Coagulation's instant role claim : the very first thing he did after that was apply to the SAST, which is going to look pro-town without actually being pro-town. An addendum to my problems with the SAST: I am not certain as to whether or not VE seriously thought people would like his SAST idea. And one final thought: sciberbia was quick to point out that VE's tarot cards and Peashooter's speculation aren't that scummy (but I disagree and say they are more scummy than anything else so far, btw), and VE makes a good point in response: Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. And with those reactions, I am now off for the afternoon to help somebody move. On March 17 2013 04:54 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not familiar to heavily themed games but what makes me wonder here about the setup is the sheer number of roles. 17 to be exact. Are these all going to be roles with power?
And now off the topic of setup speculation a few things I noticed from the very beginning of the game:
BH playing exactly like I've seen him before, mega aggressive. It works fine for him, he hunts scum and succeeds.
Can't decide whether I like Geript's 'new troll-y' style of playing or not, but ultimately (as many have pointed out) it's probably better than the way he ended in LX.
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
Oh yeah one more thing: VE that SAST idea is retarded in my eyes, but makes me wonder about some sort of extra/3rd party wincon. Something like,' get a bunch of people to join your 3rd party group and successfully get 3-5 people mislynched' or some shit. I can't think of ANY other reason why you'd try to be serious about something that ridiculous. If you're serious about hunting scum, it's probably better you focus on that since you can be a huge asset to town when you're focused. This opening post seems kind of scummy to me. It begins with setup speculation that seems based in ignorance and not in a desire to hunt scum, continues to say that two players are consistent with their meta and he's not sure if he likes that or not, he decides he doesn't like SAST but then turns that into speculation as to a 3rd party wincon (????). Also notice the line thrown in the middle: Show nested quote +
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
It's an excuse for not hunting scum while saying to trust him, he's hunting scum. I would like to see more input from WoS on who he is suspicious of, and why. He just keeps bitching about set up speculation and SAST neither ideas were worth more than a post or two of speculation but over 24 hours into the game he still focuses on this and contributes nothing else of value. It's like he META'd how talking about the set up too much is scummy so he chose to talk about people talking about the set up. Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote:
Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far.
Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum.
The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive.
I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him.
I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk.
##Vote: DarthPunk Call me an egotistic psychology major but the language used here just feels unnatural. Good, did you feel the arguments in my case were not enough to convince you or is there a particular reason you brought your own reasons? How do you feel about my other reads?
I don't actually remember reading your case and I just chose to read Zarepath myself and post what I thought. I just got home a little while ago and was not really in a place where I could post and analyze for an hour last night.
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Are you Yamato or what? The longer you don't respond to this scumslip narrative the more you're allowing us to mislynch Vivax should he be town.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 02:49 ThePeashooter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:42 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 02:36 ThePeashooter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
Does anyone else find suspicious how 3 of the guys I have in my case pop in to talk about a lot of other stuff, one says I'm likely to get NKd and then just disappear and ignore my relevant question? Sorry, I realize you are from Italy and English might not be your native language. I don't in the remotest sense think that there is even the slightest possibility of you dying tonight. There is literally no reason to kill you. My point was that posting 5 suspects is pointless when you can only feasibly kill one of them a day. The only exception to that would of been if you thought you were in imminent danger of dying during this night cycle, which as I pointed out is incredibly unlikely. Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:16 Coagulation wrote:
im not suprised gm flips town. there were a good 4 or 5 lynch candidates yesterday and scum probably had no time pickin the one they wanted. We need to consolidate our votes/pressure day 2 or we gonna be in the same spot again. I thought GM was scummy and wanted to let it play out which is why I never said anything earlier in the day. When I saw the choices between him and Zarepath I chose GM. I had GM as scummy in my notes and I felt he only got worse since I had updated them. My notes indicate that I thought Zarepath was leaning town but upon rereading his posts I found that I thought he was more scummy than I initially thought with his first few posts. + Show Spoiler +On March 16 2013 22:05 zarepath wrote:In the last game I played, literally every single person who claimed town in their opening post was scum. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town yadda yadda. BH you wanna try and get a read on me before I go to bed? VE did say in the analysis that he always claims town no matter what, though. But seriously, what is the town motivation for claiming town so early? There's more scum motivation than town motivation. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe next time sport. Tell me, what do you make of geript and his RNG shenanigans? It's said that he RNG'd before the game started and that rather than using the name he drew, he RNG'd AGAIN when the game started! How exciting is that?!
Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! Yeah, I reject this notion for obvious reasons, but also for the fact that this is already an association case, isn't it? Granted, I suppose if you assume that there are scum motivations for him switching his RNG, the most obvious reason would be because his original RNG was going to hit scum. But wasn't he told he couldn't use that anyway and have it count as a real RNG? And again, you're already operating on the assumption the switch was scum-motivated. VE's super awesome team sounds dumb. I can't see how any self-respecting scum hunter would agree to unite their votes with 4 other active people no matter what. And honestly, don't the self-respecting scum hunters kind of unite with each other as they prove themselves to each other anyway? I am much more in favor of a "lead scumhunting team" coming about organically from the good scum-hunters recognizing each other as being good than VE deciding who is good and then telling them how to vote. Also, I find all role and setup speculation stupid at this point; even regarding the fact that the OP suggests the possibility of victory conditions changing throughout the game, I don't see how town is better served in finding scum through role speculation without any information with which to base it on, and I don't see why town would want to do anything other than promote a pro-town atmosphere and find scum on the first day regardless of the setup. /offtopic: flavor is awesome On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote:EBWOP: As an addendum to my final paragraph, that is why I find Peashooter's opening content to be pretty scummy. Honestly, any player could have gone through and guessed at roles based on the titles (and probably did; I did as I skimmed them), but I think it's hardly worth talking about right now. I echo Wave Fell's sentiments here about Peashooter's likely scumminess. Now that I think about it, VE's talk about tarot cards seems especially useless. Another addendum to Coagulation's instant role claim : the very first thing he did after that was apply to the SAST, which is going to look pro-town without actually being pro-town. An addendum to my problems with the SAST: I am not certain as to whether or not VE seriously thought people would like his SAST idea. And one final thought: sciberbia was quick to point out that VE's tarot cards and Peashooter's speculation aren't that scummy (but I disagree and say they are more scummy than anything else so far, btw), and VE makes a good point in response: Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. And with those reactions, I am now off for the afternoon to help somebody move. On March 17 2013 04:54 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not familiar to heavily themed games but what makes me wonder here about the setup is the sheer number of roles. 17 to be exact. Are these all going to be roles with power?
And now off the topic of setup speculation a few things I noticed from the very beginning of the game:
BH playing exactly like I've seen him before, mega aggressive. It works fine for him, he hunts scum and succeeds.
Can't decide whether I like Geript's 'new troll-y' style of playing or not, but ultimately (as many have pointed out) it's probably better than the way he ended in LX.
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
Oh yeah one more thing: VE that SAST idea is retarded in my eyes, but makes me wonder about some sort of extra/3rd party wincon. Something like,' get a bunch of people to join your 3rd party group and successfully get 3-5 people mislynched' or some shit. I can't think of ANY other reason why you'd try to be serious about something that ridiculous. If you're serious about hunting scum, it's probably better you focus on that since you can be a huge asset to town when you're focused. This opening post seems kind of scummy to me. It begins with setup speculation that seems based in ignorance and not in a desire to hunt scum, continues to say that two players are consistent with their meta and he's not sure if he likes that or not, he decides he doesn't like SAST but then turns that into speculation as to a 3rd party wincon (????). Also notice the line thrown in the middle: Show nested quote +
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
It's an excuse for not hunting scum while saying to trust him, he's hunting scum. I would like to see more input from WoS on who he is suspicious of, and why. He just keeps bitching about set up speculation and SAST neither ideas were worth more than a post or two of speculation but over 24 hours into the game he still focuses on this and contributes nothing else of value. It's like he META'd how talking about the set up too much is scummy so he chose to talk about people talking about the set up. Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote:
Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far.
Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum.
The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive.
I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him.
I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk.
##Vote: DarthPunk Call me an egotistic psychology major but the language used here just feels unnatural. Good, did you feel the arguments in my case were not enough to convince you or is there a particular reason you brought your own reasons? How do you feel about my other reads? I don't actually remember reading your case and I just chose to read Zarepath myself and post what I thought. I just got home a little while ago and was not really in a place where I could post and analyze for an hour last night. On March 19 2013 01:31 ThePeashooter wrote:
There is no point in naming who you think all 5 mafia are when we can only kill one person a day. If you are right they are all on guard now. That was a bit stupid. The only reason you might want to do that is if you think you are very likely to die during this night phase and since half the people thought we were scum buddies at some point yesterday you aren't too likely to be on their list of targets.
I don't understand, you claim to not have read my case but speak of 5 people I named as scum. How does that make sense if you didn't read it?
Don't be shy, what do you think of GK, cosmic and glurio?
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On March 19 2013 02:50 zarepath wrote:
Are you Yamato or what? The longer you don't respond to this scumslip narrative the more you're allowing us to mislynch Vivax should he be town.
Are you serious?
This was dealt with forever ago.
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On March 19 2013 02:54 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:50 zarepath wrote:
Are you Yamato or what? The longer you don't respond to this scumslip narrative the more you're allowing us to mislynch Vivax should he be town. Are you serious? This was dealt with forever ago.
If by "dealt with" you mean where he said "I assumed he was trying to figure out if I was a smurf so I ignored it?" I'm not satisfied with that answer. If he can simply say "I'm not Yamato" then town stops thinking they share a QT.
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On March 19 2013 02:52 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 02:49 ThePeashooter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:42 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 02:36 ThePeashooter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
Does anyone else find suspicious how 3 of the guys I have in my case pop in to talk about a lot of other stuff, one says I'm likely to get NKd and then just disappear and ignore my relevant question? Sorry, I realize you are from Italy and English might not be your native language. I don't in the remotest sense think that there is even the slightest possibility of you dying tonight. There is literally no reason to kill you. My point was that posting 5 suspects is pointless when you can only feasibly kill one of them a day. The only exception to that would of been if you thought you were in imminent danger of dying during this night cycle, which as I pointed out is incredibly unlikely. Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 02:16 Coagulation wrote:
im not suprised gm flips town. there were a good 4 or 5 lynch candidates yesterday and scum probably had no time pickin the one they wanted. We need to consolidate our votes/pressure day 2 or we gonna be in the same spot again. I thought GM was scummy and wanted to let it play out which is why I never said anything earlier in the day. When I saw the choices between him and Zarepath I chose GM. I had GM as scummy in my notes and I felt he only got worse since I had updated them. My notes indicate that I thought Zarepath was leaning town but upon rereading his posts I found that I thought he was more scummy than I initially thought with his first few posts. + Show Spoiler +On March 16 2013 22:05 zarepath wrote:In the last game I played, literally every single person who claimed town in their opening post was scum. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town yadda yadda. BH you wanna try and get a read on me before I go to bed? VE did say in the analysis that he always claims town no matter what, though. But seriously, what is the town motivation for claiming town so early? There's more scum motivation than town motivation. Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe next time sport. Tell me, what do you make of geript and his RNG shenanigans? It's said that he RNG'd before the game started and that rather than using the name he drew, he RNG'd AGAIN when the game started! How exciting is that?!
Now, as we know, scum aren't likely to put their scumbuddy up for lynch so easily, so the supposition is that geript and zarepath are scumbuddies, and geript didn't want to put his buddy up for lynch! What do you say to THAT?! Yeah, I reject this notion for obvious reasons, but also for the fact that this is already an association case, isn't it? Granted, I suppose if you assume that there are scum motivations for him switching his RNG, the most obvious reason would be because his original RNG was going to hit scum. But wasn't he told he couldn't use that anyway and have it count as a real RNG? And again, you're already operating on the assumption the switch was scum-motivated. VE's super awesome team sounds dumb. I can't see how any self-respecting scum hunter would agree to unite their votes with 4 other active people no matter what. And honestly, don't the self-respecting scum hunters kind of unite with each other as they prove themselves to each other anyway? I am much more in favor of a "lead scumhunting team" coming about organically from the good scum-hunters recognizing each other as being good than VE deciding who is good and then telling them how to vote. Also, I find all role and setup speculation stupid at this point; even regarding the fact that the OP suggests the possibility of victory conditions changing throughout the game, I don't see how town is better served in finding scum through role speculation without any information with which to base it on, and I don't see why town would want to do anything other than promote a pro-town atmosphere and find scum on the first day regardless of the setup. /offtopic: flavor is awesome On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote:EBWOP: As an addendum to my final paragraph, that is why I find Peashooter's opening content to be pretty scummy. Honestly, any player could have gone through and guessed at roles based on the titles (and probably did; I did as I skimmed them), but I think it's hardly worth talking about right now. I echo Wave Fell's sentiments here about Peashooter's likely scumminess. Now that I think about it, VE's talk about tarot cards seems especially useless. Another addendum to Coagulation's instant role claim : the very first thing he did after that was apply to the SAST, which is going to look pro-town without actually being pro-town. An addendum to my problems with the SAST: I am not certain as to whether or not VE seriously thought people would like his SAST idea. And one final thought: sciberbia was quick to point out that VE's tarot cards and Peashooter's speculation aren't that scummy (but I disagree and say they are more scummy than anything else so far, btw), and VE makes a good point in response: Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. And with those reactions, I am now off for the afternoon to help somebody move. On March 17 2013 04:54 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not familiar to heavily themed games but what makes me wonder here about the setup is the sheer number of roles. 17 to be exact. Are these all going to be roles with power?
And now off the topic of setup speculation a few things I noticed from the very beginning of the game:
BH playing exactly like I've seen him before, mega aggressive. It works fine for him, he hunts scum and succeeds.
Can't decide whether I like Geript's 'new troll-y' style of playing or not, but ultimately (as many have pointed out) it's probably better than the way he ended in LX.
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
Oh yeah one more thing: VE that SAST idea is retarded in my eyes, but makes me wonder about some sort of extra/3rd party wincon. Something like,' get a bunch of people to join your 3rd party group and successfully get 3-5 people mislynched' or some shit. I can't think of ANY other reason why you'd try to be serious about something that ridiculous. If you're serious about hunting scum, it's probably better you focus on that since you can be a huge asset to town when you're focused. This opening post seems kind of scummy to me. It begins with setup speculation that seems based in ignorance and not in a desire to hunt scum, continues to say that two players are consistent with their meta and he's not sure if he likes that or not, he decides he doesn't like SAST but then turns that into speculation as to a 3rd party wincon (????). Also notice the line thrown in the middle: Show nested quote +
I don't have any scumreads as of yet (especially since half the thread is yet to post) but I'll be keeping my eye out.
It's an excuse for not hunting scum while saying to trust him, he's hunting scum. I would like to see more input from WoS on who he is suspicious of, and why. He just keeps bitching about set up speculation and SAST neither ideas were worth more than a post or two of speculation but over 24 hours into the game he still focuses on this and contributes nothing else of value. It's like he META'd how talking about the set up too much is scummy so he chose to talk about people talking about the set up. Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote:
Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far.
Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum.
The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive.
I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him.
I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk.
##Vote: DarthPunk Call me an egotistic psychology major but the language used here just feels unnatural. Good, did you feel the arguments in my case were not enough to convince you or is there a particular reason you brought your own reasons? How do you feel about my other reads? I don't actually remember reading your case and I just chose to read Zarepath myself and post what I thought. I just got home a little while ago and was not really in a place where I could post and analyze for an hour last night. On March 19 2013 01:31 ThePeashooter wrote:
There is no point in naming who you think all 5 mafia are when we can only kill one person a day. If you are right they are all on guard now. That was a bit stupid. The only reason you might want to do that is if you think you are very likely to die during this night phase and since half the people thought we were scum buddies at some point yesterday you aren't too likely to be on their list of targets. I don't understand, you claim to not have read my case but speak of 5 people I named as scum. How does that make sense if you didn't read it? Don't be shy, what do you think of GK, cosmic and glurio?
I skimmed your post and didn't remember specifics from it just now. I saw that you posted 5 or whatever suspects and commented on that. Since Zarepath was being spoken about before the Greymist lynch I kind of just assumed the case you were referring to was something from the previous day and not something that had literally just happened. So I guess it was more or less a brain fart.
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On March 19 2013 02:50 zarepath wrote:
Are you Yamato or what? The longer you don't respond to this scumslip narrative the more you're allowing us to mislynch Vivax should he be town.
He isn't even remotely likely to get lynched and your current attitude when the whole town is now discussing how scummy you are smells of panic. It's like you are trying to just stir up chaos in the face of your imminent demise which I find entertaining. If you were town you would know you were innocent and do something besides lose your head and run around flailing your arms.
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Can you tell me about these 3 guys please? You are here now and read the front page apparently so I don't know what's holding you from reading my case or looking at filters.
I would also like to know why you seemed sure I would be NKd. You'd think I would be NKd if I mentioned good reads no? If I mention 5 townies as guys I want to lynch tomorrow, how does that make me a target for NK?
You said you didn't even read my case properly yet you seem sure it would be enough to get me killed tonight.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 01:52 ThePeashooter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 01:40 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 01:31 ThePeashooter wrote:
There is no point in naming who you think all 5 mafia are when we can only kill one person a day. If you are right they are all on guard now. That was a bit stupid. The only reason you might want to do that is if you think you are very likely to die during this night phase and since half the people thought we were scum buddies at some point yesterday you aren't too likely to be on their list of targets. Can you find an example please? I remember lots of people thinking you were scum "on your own", but didn't see anyone make the connection like I did. Also it's fine if I die N1. Just shows how well I played lol. ...Did you even read anything I wrote? Also how is it that no one has any capacity to reread something to remember anything that hasn't happened in the last 5 minutes? Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 00:06 kitaman27 wrote:On March 17 2013 13:21 Vivax wrote:
Yamato i think coagulation is not a good choice for d1 for reasons wf pointed out ...is this a scum slip? As far as I know, ThePeashooter's identity as Yamato is not public knowledge. Was it revealed at any point in the thread? Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 18 2013 01:11 geript wrote:On March 17 2013 06:54 zarepath wrote:
I did mix up your tarot card comment with VE because he mentioned something about them later, I think. I looked through your filter, geript, and I liked your comment about coddling Coag and figured you were null for now.
Didn't even Dr.H point out the that natural reaction to get to after going through a filter and arriving at null for town is to go through another filter? Sciberbia's case is good. There's almost no movement from him whatsoever; just random statements. When he's suspicious of someone he's not interacting with the thread at all when pressure is on that person. It's like he's watching the game from a window. Hell, he even didn't like the warbaby lynch in NMM 37, which you coached scum in, but here he's null on everything it seems. He's lied about every scum claiming town in the first post as it was actually most of the town players who soft and/or hard claimed town in the mid-stages of day 1. He's not showing any town motivation that I've seen whatsoever. His meta's off from 37. And the survival mentality is in his posts throughout. Ohai guise. Geript no offense, but your meta reads are shit. I'll agree with you that something appears...off about zare this game, but glurio does make a point and zare's activity does go way down on weekends. I'm willing to keep an eye on him for now but I don't think he'd be my D1 lynch candidate. I have to look into this Vivax/TPS thing right now because so far it seems the most compelling thing to me. I was going to comment on Coag's bullshit at some point but I figure I have to trust the vets on his meta once again since they ended up being right about Grush last game.....sigh. Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 02:19 Coagulation wrote:
I may not be on VEs little circle jerk squad but i can still sheep them.
im gonna vote ThePeashooter.
did anyone ever figure anything out about the yamato slip? was it actually a scum slip? and whats with greymist defending sandroba so hard.
Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 02:23 layabout wrote:On March 18 2013 02:19 Coagulation wrote:
I may not be on VEs little circle jerk squad but i can still sheep them.
im gonna vote ThePeashooter.
did anyone ever figure anything out about the yamato slip? was it actually a scum slip? and whats with greymist defending sandroba so hard.
vivax thinks TPS is yamato and started calling him yamato. So either they are both scum, masons or vivax did something "silly". Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 02:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 18 2013 01:21 Vivax wrote:
The "scumslip": I tried to guess TPS alignment, and it sounds a lot like (a townish) yamato, especially in the two posts after I voted for him. So I actually would like to know if it's really him since he didn't answer to me yet I think.
I'm not too bad at guessing smurfs, I like to do that as either alignment (LX as reference for me doing it as mafia, LIX for town where I guessed marv correctly). I'm not really buying this explanation. When you addressed to him, you made it sound like a fact as if you knew he was yamato. If you were taking a guess, you could have said something like "hey, are you yamato?" or "This is yamato, isn't it?". Furthermore, TPS posts after you address him as yamato and he thinks nothing of it. If I'm playing a game and someone calls me someone I'm not, I'm going to be awful confused. Even though that happened 10 pages ago, you never brought it up again. TPS had ignored your "guess", yet you never followed up on it. If you were truly curious, why not mention it? You say that you "tried to guess TPS's alignment" and that you thought he was town, yet the previous post indicated that he was your number one scum read. Finally, how can you possibly come to a conclusion on a smurfs identity like that? When I see TPS's posts, I see some random player. I couldn't possibly guess who it was by the sample size you were given. ##Vote: Vivax Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ugh I like Vivax lynch too. Nothing he's said has made me feel townie on him. I'ma go filter him again.
Kita why you hatin on GM? I think he's fine for now, and I certainly don't like him for lynch today.
Where's the beef? Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 03:01 GreYMisT wrote:
Kita I think its possible that vivax slipped up. I can definitely see that scenario happening in this game. I am not sure I am confident enough in the risk of lynching him based off only that though. Let me look over him for anything else. But yeah, you are definitely a likely kill for tonight.
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I would also like to know why you seemed sure I would be NKd. You'd think I would be NKd if I mentioned good reads no? If I mention 5 townies as guys I want to lynch tomorrow, how does that make me a target for NK?
As in, one that mentions 5 townies wouldn't get NKd, but PeaShooter seems sure that I will get NKd without even having properly read my case apparently.
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Im only up to p13. but GoodKarma is scum yo
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