EPTwhats ya time deadline for sno and zare to post before finding it stinky?
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Mocsta
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whats ya time deadline for sno and zare to post before finding it stinky? | ||
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Corazon
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Dandel Ion
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Sylencia (2): Mocsta, warbaby Mandalor (1): cDgCorazon No-lynch (1): Sylencia Not Voting: (4): Mandalor, zarepath, sn0man, Sevryn Sylencia is currently set to be lynched! ~24 hours until deadline. ![[image loading]](http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3817/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif) | ||
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Mocsta
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how long are u willing to wait before starting to think their lack of activity is suspicious? | ||
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Mocsta
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However i am going to need detailed feedback from them in say the next 12 to 16 hours...otherwise to me. Its suspicious the lack of contributoons given the severity of a mislynch. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 18 2013 10:21 Mocsta wrote: stinky meaning how long are u willing to wait before starting to think their lack of activity is suspicious? I already think it's suspicious. The reasonings for why they aren't talking would only invite a ton of WIFOM, but I would say it would hurt my read on Zare more than Sn0. I almost made a case on Zare, and then I looked at his filter and there are only a couple of points I could've brought up. Not enough for a vote. I have a solid town read on Sn0 because his play has been extremely pragmatic this game, and he has been helping out town immensely. Do you think their lack of activity is worth revising our gameplan for D3? | ||
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Mocsta
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Just yeah its really odd sno and zare havent commented. I agree though sno>>zare based in contributions. As mentioned before. I think another 12hours is very reasonable to expect something meaningful. If no response i can only surmise scum is happy with how everything is proceeding. That doesnt make the lurkers clear though. Im certain scum exists within the three lurkers. | ||
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Corazon
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Mocsta
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Talk god dammit (other than corazon and maybe warbaby). ========= [fluff] - Cos I am going nuts here with the lack of activity 1. Syvern 2. Sylencia 3. Mandalor 4. Sylencia 5. zarepath 6. Sylencia RNG = 2... awesome, dont have to change me vote. 5 | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
Sylencia seems to have no idea how or when he should no-lynch appropriately, but I wonder where he got the idea from in the first place. + Show Spoiler [speculation] + Unless I'm wrong, we're currently at MYLO. 5 dead players. 5-3 right now, 4-3 after a no-lynch leaves us at LYLO. I'm not interested in carrying the game into a LYLO situation if 5 of the players are making zero posts 30 odd hours into D2, and 3 of them have been lurking the whole game.  Unless we seriously think there are 2 scum, but I don't think this is likely. + Show Spoiler [fluff] + how I feel about D3 so far... | ||
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Sylencia
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It is clearly the right time to do it now. Call me scum for talking about setup speculation here but so far what we have is 1 Serial Killer 1 Mafia Roleblocker (only confirmed by me, take it as you wish) 2 Mafia / Mafia Roles 1 Tracker 4 Town 4 Town / Blue Again, take this as you wish but I have already claimed I'm not blue. That puts it to 5 Vanilla and 3 Unknown. Due to what we have seen from the setup: Nosy Neighbour doesn't affect much, it's still essentially just a green role. No one else has claimed being Roleblocked. That pretty much rules out there being a Jailkeeper. A Vigilante would've killed me by now. That leaves there to be either a Watcher or a Veteran that are likely candidates to be the other blue role. If you no lynch with a Watcher in town, and assuming they were watching Test last night because it's the obvious thing to do, they can very well watch another night on a potential target, reveal who they saw the previous night during the final hour of tonight, and if they remain alive - they can potentially reveal another. With a veteran, we stay in the same 5:3 situation but with another confirmed town member, which still leaves us in pretty much the same situation as we are in now, but with a confirmed town giving out a vote for another day. | ||
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Mocsta
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Corazon
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On February 18 2013 16:39 Sylencia wrote: When we should no lynch properly? It is clearly the right time to do it now. Call me scum for talking about setup speculation here but so far what we have is 1 Serial Killer 1 Mafia Roleblocker (only confirmed by me, take it as you wish) 2 Mafia / Mafia Roles 1 Tracker 4 Town 4 Town / Blue Again, take this as you wish but I have already claimed I'm not blue. That puts it to 5 Vanilla and 3 Unknown. Due to what we have seen from the setup: Nosy Neighbour doesn't affect much, it's still essentially just a green role. No one else has claimed being Roleblocked. That pretty much rules out there being a Jailkeeper. A Vigilante would've killed me by now. That leaves there to be either a Watcher or a Veteran that are likely candidates to be the other blue role. If you no lynch with a Watcher in town, and assuming they were watching Test last night because it's the obvious thing to do, they can very well watch another night on a potential target, reveal who they saw the previous night during the final hour of tonight, and if they remain alive - they can potentially reveal another. With a veteran, we stay in the same 5:3 situation but with another confirmed town member, which still leaves us in pretty much the same situation as we are in now, but with a confirmed town giving out a vote for another day. The problem with proposing the no-lynch right now is that we are far from not being able to make a decision. Voting no-lynch 24 hours before the deadline means that you want us to sit around and twiddle our thumbs and not force the lurkers to come out of hiding. We've already done that for the past 4 days, and I'm sick of it. We've asked you to make a scumread besides WB, and all you've done is thrown your hands up and said "hey guys, I don't have any scum reads". It sounds really ridiculous. I'm done asking you to make another read. If you don't make a read within 12 hours on someone other than Sevryn and Mandalor, you're getting my vote. WB won't be acceptable. | ||
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warbaby
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Sn0_Man
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This is my before-bed post don't expect answers for another indeterminately long period. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 18 2013 16:39 Sylencia wrote: When we should no lynch properly? It is clearly the right time to do it now. Call me scum for talking about setup speculation here but so far what we have is 1 Serial Killer 1 Mafia Roleblocker (only confirmed by me, take it as you wish) 2 Mafia / Mafia Roles 1 Tracker 4 Town 4 Town / Blue Again, take this as you wish but I have already claimed I'm not blue. That puts it to 5 Vanilla and 3 Unknown. That doesnt make sense.. we have had 3 VTs flip; 1 SK and 1 blue. *IF* you flipped VT; would that not leave 4 vanilla flipped... you wrote 5 above... i dont think it was a typo as you adjusted unknown to 3. If you going to setup speculate.. why are you inserting erroneous statements such as the above? Quite misleading if you ask me. Due to what we have seen from the setup: Nosy Neighbour doesn't affect much, it's still essentially just a green role. No one else has claimed being Roleblocked. That pretty much rules out there being a Jailkeeper. A Vigilante would've killed me by now. That leaves there to be either a Watcher or a Veteran that are likely candidates to be the other blue role. If you no lynch with a Watcher in town, and assuming they were watching Test last night because it's the obvious thing to do, they can very well watch another night on a potential target, reveal who they saw the previous night during the final hour of tonight, and if they remain alive - they can potentially reveal another. With a veteran, we stay in the same 5:3 situation but with another confirmed town member, which still leaves us in pretty much the same situation as we are in now, but with a confirmed town giving out a vote for another day. As an aside: to all I fuckn hope somebody "watched" testsubject last night, but so far, no one has stepped up. The problem is.. if somebody stepped up now and said they are the watcher, and wanted to "judge reactions" I would have thought its too late to automatically believe. When TestSubject caught OO, he presented it within an hour. If we believe the "watcher" and it leads to a mislynch, and then scum NK; we are pretty much fucked. Setup speculation The only reason I can think of the "watching" outcome being held is if.. multiple parties visited TestSubject....(i.e. killer + ?nosy neighbour? or whatever else) This is really grasping at straws though; and I prefer to work with what I know = scum hunt. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 18 2013 17:10 Sn0_Man wrote: I only mentioned a no lynch because we COULD BE AT MYLO and if we keep voting like utter retards (see: first vote) then maybe a no-lynch is preferable. However, I don't think we are at no lynch stage yet. For example, I think I'll be voting Sylencia today, although I admit I haven't finished my "Filter dive" This is my before-bed post don't expect answers for another indeterminately long period. Thats for making an appearance; I hope your vote is submitted at least a few hours before the deadline - preferably more. I think it is essential for votes to be transparent; and void of confusion. I think this will prevent mafia making a play to affect votes. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
Still filter diving, but I'm inclined to go for Mandalor right now. Although he did say he was going to be busy this whole time. Not that I'm one to talk... As Cora pointed out, Sundays are my busiest days. Sorry for not mentioning that myself. I should be back for the day. Catching up, filter reading, etc. I like the discussion so far. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 18 2013 21:13 zarepath wrote: I like the discussion so far. Can you point out what you like? its been pretty frustrating for me.... | ||
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Sylencia
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On February 18 2013 21:13 zarepath wrote: I like how Sylencia's big "I'm contributing!" post is all theory and setup speculation. Still filter diving, but I'm inclined to go for Mandalor right now. Although he did say he was going to be busy this whole time. Not that I'm one to talk... As Cora pointed out, Sundays are my busiest days. Sorry for not mentioning that myself. I should be back for the day. Catching up, filter reading, etc. I like the discussion so far. Voting Mandalor is pointless, he's afk and his filter says less than what anyone else has, the chance you mislynch from a vote from Mandalor is a lot higher than anyone else. -- On February 13 2013 14:23 Sevryn wrote: So I'm back from work and wow has a lot happened I dont understand why glurio played like he did. That is why I tunneled him because his case was absolutely terrible. We also needed another topic besides warbaby so I pushed glurio as a good alternate topic. Glurio admitted his case was terrible which just doesnt make sense why would town make a terrible case without breadcrumbs like I said earlier its just distracting and doesnt help town. as this lynch proved. The only reason you think im scum is because you think a lurker is scum and while I know I havn't been very active which I will be fixing over the next days I have to ask. Why just me and glurio? your just looking at whats blaring in your face and not the whole picture. I had the confidence to share my read and kill glurios case why would scum do that? You talk about when during the day I posted my case like people normally post cases early day one when there is nothing to read which is kind of irrelavant because I posted my case after I read and reread his case. I'm going to bed now but Will be up tomorrow and will be ready to provide my opinions and takes on yesterdays last minute activity and the night that fight. 1) Makes a point about how we're looking at warbaby too much, but then proceeds to tunnelling glurio and brushes it off like he was the victim of bad play. 2) Says he'd be more active, but reaches a level slightly above mine in terms of activity. The lack of hard scum hunting hasn't required him to speak up since Night 1. On February 14 2013 03:06 Sevryn wrote: Is 9bit being replaced? As important as it is to know, asking if the 2nd afk player is going to be replaced could be a sign of potential night kill targets. This is pretty weak though. On February 14 2013 11:21 Sevryn wrote: your assuming that there isnt a scum RB and a town JK Either he's subtly suggesting he got roleblocked here, or the point is completely irrelevant to the argument. I can understand if he was saying "You're assuming there isn't RB instead of JK" but where does this point about scum RB and JK come from, especially reading TU's post - it comes out of nowhere. This again, doesn't really reveal anything about his alignment, but it's an odd statement. On February 16 2013 13:34 Sevryn wrote: Lowering expectations of how good they will be at scumhunting and then the 5 posts on D1 about blue claims and the like which really only helps scum on D1 another post admitting to being a bad player and altogether undermining thier own stance on things which is a great tactic if later your going to have to go back on your reads. real easy to go "I told you guys I was bad at scum hunting" looking through the whole filter I just see a lot of answering direct questions and no real cases. On February 14 2013 03:04 Sevryn wrote: Sylencia - null I can be made to look fairly scummy from those 2 points alone (this then heightens to the point where I'm now his top read) - but if he's made a point about it on the 16th, what changed between 14th and then? On February 16 2013 13:59 Sevryn wrote: talking about it at all isnt really something thats good for down it can only help scum on Day 1 Ignores the point I continuously make - I didn't talk about the potential claim because I thought he was blue, I did it because there was a higher chance he was scum. On February 17 2013 14:27 Sevryn wrote: I was asked why I am less scummy than the "other" two lurkers/ how about your reads? who do you think the scum team is? you think its all lurkers? On February 17 2013 14:48 Sevryn wrote: I will throw that right back at you you never give examples you say that I am full of broken promises. like what? show me why im scummy dont just say YOUR SO SCUMMY PROVE YOUR NOT. im going to try to get who I think is most likely scum lynched today what you do is your own choice but I would try to find scum by making a really case. but as to scum hunting let me ask you a question. Why do you think im more scummy than scy have you looked at his filter? Many times he was asked why he isn't scummy, but rather than answering why he isn't scummy he either flips it (like here), or he tries to make a point that one of the other lurkers (Mandalor and I) are more scummy. Us being potentially more scummy based on his points doesn't clear him of being scum. Last two posts involve a case against me, but then no real follow up when scrutinised about the quality of the post, and how it looked more summary-type post than scum post. Since then, the heat has been back onto me, and Sevryn has been afk ever since. | ||
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