On February 12 2013 06:04 zarepath wrote:
Eh, go ahead and WIFOM, I can't blame you for it
[/b]Eh, go ahead and WIFOM, I can't blame you for it
But you can blame me?
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 12 2013 06:04 zarepath wrote: [/b]Eh, go ahead and WIFOM, I can't blame you for it But you can blame me? | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 12 2013 06:04 zarepath wrote: [/b]Eh, go ahead and WIFOM, I can't blame you for it I'll save it for another day. I don't feel like Mocsta is the focus of D1. | ||
zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 12 2013 06:05 WaveofShadow wrote: [/b]Show nested quote + On February 12 2013 06:04 zarepath wrote: On February 12 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote: However, I'll hold off on the WIFOM Eh, go ahead and WIFOM, I can't blame you for it But you can blame me? Last game Cora and I had together, I laid into him with a massive WIFOM case when we were both town. | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 12 2013 06:09 zarepath wrote: [/b]Show nested quote + On February 12 2013 06:05 WaveofShadow wrote: On February 12 2013 06:04 zarepath wrote: On February 12 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote: However, I'll hold off on the WIFOM Eh, go ahead and WIFOM, I can't blame you for it But you can blame me? Last game Cora and I had together, I laid into him with a massive WIFOM case when we were both town. And it caused me to play even worse, leading me to (figuratively, in the game) pull a gun to my head and say "dare me to pull the trigger" when a scum needed to be lynched. | ||
zarepath
United States1626 Posts
I know who I'm voting for, but want to see the lurkers come out to avoid complicating things down the road. Hopefully the next 12 hours or so will yield some fruit from those trees. | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
@Cora My point on English is because a person's diction is very important to how I perceive them. I was hoping mocsta could rectify the larger issues in his. My point on tiebreakers stands, I want to be certain how they function. Ideally, neither of these points would need to be raised but at the same time I don't feel that they were unnecessarily clouding the thread. Admittedly the English one dragged on for a while but that is Mocsta's fault. Zare: I forgot you were in that game with syl as well as mocsta. You mentioned why he won the last one, but you haven't really contrasted that to his current playstyle (of flying under the radar again). | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
That basically means everybody on Cora's lurker list. GET POSTING BOYS. + Show Spoiler + Or girls. Or gender-neutral beings. | ||
warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 12 2013 05:44 Sn0_Man wrote: @Warbaby care to clarify what part of Glurio's post is particularly townie compared to last game? I fully expect that, were he to roll scum again, he would up his game at least a bit with respect to looking more townie as scum. So one kinda OK post isn't gonna clear his name. I added some notes to the glurio post I was referencing, below. I'm not saying I think glurio is town, I'm just saying his contribution was less scummy than those in the last game (when he was scum). Also WoS's post is a start in the right direction. IMO none of the proposed cases have enough merit to be worth voting scum at this point. And I don't see why we'd want to lynch glurio right now, over someone with actually zero posts. + Show Spoiler [glurio's post + notes] + On February 11 2013 23:33 glurio wrote: Posting a shitload of fluff, useless RNG and grammatics discussion isn't pro-town behaviour Mocsta. Then hopping on the easy lynch wagon after warbaby made those terrible posts? [glurio tended not to be so aggressive, and point out poor town play in others, when he was scum. instead he tried to frame others as scum and hop on bandwagons] Show nested quote + On February 11 2013 09:55 Mocsta wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2013 09:43 warbaby wrote:
Agreed, no lurky lurk. When appropriate is very loose wording, setting you up to change your agenda as you see fit. My thoughts are: Im going to lynch my best scum read. If scum reads are ambiguous and cases are grasping at straws, I will RNG out of the pool of lurkers (no pun on RNG intended,m ore so how do you chose between 3 or 4 ppl with 1 post) Post consolidation definitely important. No need to hear every thought. But this is no excuse for lurking either. + Show Spoiler + Will try my best. But do I really have to tolerate idiotic play. But yes. OMGUS is terrible and often scum motivation. Theres a difference between OMGUS and making a well-reasoned counter-case. Let's start with that and don't post endlessly. While i agree with everyone that warbabys posts have been really horrible he basically did everything he shouldn't do (soft-blue claim, getting overly emotional, giving up, citing countless times hes town), i think we should really step back and take a look at the whole picture. [i don't remember glurio scum saying sensible stuff like this] I think he would be much more cautious with his posts if he actually was scum. I'd like everyone to look at mocstas filter. Does he do anything to seriously scumhunt? He asks questions in every direction, has people on his "watch" but this is the same as NMM XXXV, where he was infact the mafia gf. He picks the easiest target and highlights everything everyone already read. Sn0 didn't add anything useful with his arguably limited posting time, only talk about RNG and english grammatics. Useless but i'm sure he'll pick it up. [these last few paragraphs are a bit more like scum glurio, where he just throws around accusations and waits to see what sticks] | ||
geript
10024 Posts
1. Geript is familiar with TLmafia board play 2. Geript is familiar with TLmafia newbie players 3. Geript follows usual TLmafia board play While I have read a few games here and skimmed others, where I am used to playing openings are different and people are more liberal with their use of votes (in general) but especially so in early game As for getting on Mocsta for being Mocsta, I am new here and as such am unfamiliar with everyone's general play (in the current game). Where I'm from I'm not one of the better players, I am here to get better. In general because of various gaming history, I have found that group think--where people bounce ideas off of one another--is the analysis method that works best for me to synthesize correct information. Thus, why you are reading jabs without an uppercut follow through. While I do try and shoot from the hip as best I can, I prefer to have time to allow thoughts to ruminate before making a decision. | ||
glurio
Germany597 Posts
sn0: So wait i was scum last game and lurked and town the game before and lurked, how is it you only point out the scum game? I'll have some more stuff to finish, after that expect my case on sn0. And no it's no OMGUS. | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 12 2013 07:12 glurio wrote: So wait i posted when i had time, RL kicks in and i'm suddenly lurking? Sorry but sometimes shit comes up which really doesn't allow me to be here 24/7 even midday. sn0: So wait i was scum last game and lurked and town the game before and lurked, how is it you only point out the scum game? I'll have some more stuff to finish, after that expect my case on sn0. And no it's no OMGUS. They need to step it up (I think one or two might be busy with RL, idk who though). Don't vote just because of lurking at this point in D1, that's just lazy and giving scum a free pass. | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 12 2013 07:12 geript wrote: I think your assumptions are bad Cora. The assumptions I'm seeing in your post are: 1. Geript is familiar with TLmafia board play 2. Geript is familiar with TLmafia newbie players 3. Geript follows usual TLmafia board play While I have read a few games here and skimmed others, where I am used to playing openings are different and people are more liberal with their use of votes (in general) but especially so in early game As for getting on Mocsta for being Mocsta, I am new here and as such am unfamiliar with everyone's general play (in the current game). Where I'm from I'm not one of the better players, I am here to get better. In general because of various gaming history, I have found that group think--where people bounce ideas off of one another--is the analysis method that works best for me to synthesize correct information. Thus, why you are reading jabs without an uppercut follow through. While I do try and shoot from the hip as best I can, I prefer to have time to allow thoughts to ruminate before making a decision. Please don't play the noob card either. You could always look at previous games to see what is good to do and what is not. We also have coaches (for both sides) that can help you out with anything you need. The problem is (following your boxing analogy) that jabs don't win you a fight and they don't get you anywhere. You need to convince others that your target is scum, and you can't do that with jabs. I said that your vote on WoS was a decent start, I just want to see more. | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
@glurio: 2 games ago you were Vigi'd night 1. Then last game you lurked it up good but were at least decently active in the scum QT from what I could tell. You played a full game though and I hope have a better grasp of what kinds of contribution town members are expected to present. All I'm saying is that so far you are lacking in those aspects and that if you can't differentiate your town play from your scum play you are not being very helpful, much like the other lurkers. RL kicking in isn't the point. 2 (now 3) posts in 21 hours is the point. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 12 2013 07:12 glurio wrote: So wait i posted when i had time, RL kicks in and i'm suddenly lurking? Sorry but sometimes shit comes up which really doesn't allow me to be here 24/7 even midday. sn0: So wait i was scum last game and lurked and town the game before and lurked, how is it you only point out the scum game? I'll have some more stuff to finish, after that expect my case on sn0. And no it's no OMGUS. Glad to be hearing from you, glurio. The strength of your case will essentially decide for me whether or not I should bother keeping my eye on you for D1, so make it a good one. Also interested to see how you're going to avoid OMGUS since I'm pretty sure Sn0 has avoided any suspicion thus far. (Except maybe WB early?) Also what are people's stances on lurker lynching re: 'semi-active' lurking v complete lurking? Those that fall into the first category being glurio and Sylencia (though I'm debating adding Sevryn to that list. Sevryn shares my stances on lurkers it seems though hasn't committed to anything or laid any cases down.) The second category being 9-bit and Macheji. As of now I'm still sticking with lynch of second category being more useful but those in the first had better contribute more than they have. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 12 2013 07:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Also what are people's stances on lurker lynching re: 'semi-active' lurking v complete lurking? Those that fall into the first category being glurio and Sylencia (though I'm debating adding Sevryn to that list. Sevryn shares my stances on lurkers it seems though hasn't committed to anything or laid any cases down.) The second category being 9-bit and Macheji. As of now I'm still sticking with lynch of second category being more useful but those in the first had better contribute more than they have. On February 12 2013 07:21 Sn0_Man wrote: people who demonstrate presence and ability to post and fail to demonstrate willingness to contribute are worth less to town than possible useful replacements. | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 12 2013 07:26 Sn0_Man wrote: In case what I'm saying isn't clear, I feel that low-content posters are worse than 0-posters. See this is what I'm starting to realize as they day has gone on. I still don't like the idea of the 0-posters escaping, but the low content (both qualitatively and quantitaively) posters seem like they would be good candidates as well. I'm very interested as to the rest of the town's ideas on this, because as was pointed out to me, a 0-post count lurker lynch this early may not make a lot of sense. | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 12 2013 07:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2013 07:12 glurio wrote: So wait i posted when i had time, RL kicks in and i'm suddenly lurking? Sorry but sometimes shit comes up which really doesn't allow me to be here 24/7 even midday. sn0: So wait i was scum last game and lurked and town the game before and lurked, how is it you only point out the scum game? I'll have some more stuff to finish, after that expect my case on sn0. And no it's no OMGUS. Glad to be hearing from you, glurio. The strength of your case will essentially decide for me whether or not I should bother keeping my eye on you for D1, so make it a good one. Also interested to see how you're going to avoid OMGUS since I'm pretty sure Sn0 has avoided any suspicion thus far. (Except maybe WB early?) Also what are people's stances on lurker lynching re: 'semi-active' lurking v complete lurking? Those that fall into the first category being glurio and Sylencia (though I'm debating adding Sevryn to that list. Sevryn shares my stances on lurkers it seems though hasn't committed to anything or laid any cases down.) The second category being 9-bit and Macheji. As of now I'm still sticking with lynch of second category being more useful but those in the first had better contribute more than they have. Where does Mandalor fit into this? It's funny how he makes a post saying that at least one lurker has been scum over past games and yet decides to lurk himself... | ||
Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
WaveofShadow (2): zarepath, geript 9-BiT (1): Mandalor warbaby (1): Mocsta Macheji (1): WaveofShadow Not Voting (8): cDgCorazon, 9-BiT, Sevryn, Sn0_Man, Macheji, glurio, Sylencia, warbaby Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched! ~26 hours remaining until deadline. Remember you have to vote! | ||
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