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Dandel Ion (filter) will be cohosting this game. Questions can be directed towards either of us.
VisceraEyes will be coaching scum austinmcc and thrawn2112 will be coaching town Please feel free to use your coaches, they'd love to help you and make you better!
(Somewhat) Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVII + Show Spoiler [Important Posts] +
Introduction: Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.
The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.
Rules: Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
- Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
- Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town or literally claim scum.
- Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
- Posting screenshots of anything.
- Posting any PM you received in connection to this game.
- Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
- Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
- Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
- Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
Posting: Activity: You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be warned or modkilled at host's discretion.
Mod Font: This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.
Question Font: This is question font. Use it to ask the moderators questions about the rules. If you don't want to ask your question in the thread then feel free to PM host/cohost and then you don't have to use this font. If you ask about something that's already in the thread then expect snide remarks to accompany your answer.
Editing: Editing is not allowed for any reason ever. Editing will result in a warning or a modkill at host's discretion. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again if you really have to edit anything.
Spam: Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here. This also means you should condense your posts when possible. 15 one-liners in 30 minutes is unacceptable.
Inappropriate posts: If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.
I'm going to warn you if you're being excessively unpleasant towards other players. If you disregard my warning then I'm going to modkill you. This is not DotA2.
Reporting posts: The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, cohost, flamewheel, or Mig before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.
Ban discussions: Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game. Do NOT ask for modkills or discuss modkills during the game
Smurfs: No smurfs. I will not accept smurfs under any circumstances.
Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.
You have been warned.
Out of thread communication: It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC or Skype to communicate during the game. Please be mindful that other players may be more tech savvy than you and they may attempt impersonate members of your team or attempt to infiltrate your chat. You use these media at your own risk.
Voting rules:
- Voting is done in this thread. You cannot PM me your vote.
- Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion may not be counted. Vote counts will be updated whenever intermittently.
- No conditional voting.
- You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
- In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses).
- You may vote for a No Lynch in the format: ##Vote: No Lynch
- Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
Signups: This game is open to players with 3 6 or fewer games on this forum. Signups will remain open until the game is full. I might let you join if you have more than three games but they were played a very long time ago. Type /in to play.
Game-specific rules: Modkills: This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM flamewheel or post in the Ban List.
Replacements This game uses replacements. If a player is modkilled then they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list if possible.
Clues: There are no clues anywhere.
PMs PMs are not allowed in this game.
Time Cycle: This game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark (that is any votes after 01:00 GMT (+00:00)) will not count. Currently the deadline is 01:00 GMT (+00:00), but that may be subject to change. During the night, there will be a 1 hour resolution period during which actions will not be accepted. You may post during this time. In other words, the deadline for night actions is 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Actions and votes may be posted up until the deadline, but not after (00:59 GMT (+00:00) is fine but not 01:00 GMT (+00:00)).
Credits: Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer. Thanks to everyone who helped balance this game. Thanks to cohost. Thanks to coaches. Thanks to players.
If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!
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Muppet Show Mafia
Overview This game is using a semi-open setup for 13 players; that is, all the possible roles are given but the number of each is not known. Not all of the roles will necessarily be present. The game is inherently balanced for both sides depending on the types and numbers of roles that appear. The mafia win when they outnumber the town (and there is no SK alive) or they reach a scenario when this becomes inevitable. The SK wins if he is the last man standing or nothing can prevent this. Town wins by eliminating all mafia members (and there is no SK alive). Mafia kill power is always 1.
ALL FLAVOR IS MEANINGLESS, EXCEPT FOR FUN! If you find the role PM you receive ambiguous, PM Dandel Ion or myself.
Town Roles
Vanilla Town You only have one power, although it is the most powerful of all! You vote and win with town, by eliminating any threat to the town.
Veteran You were in the war. That taught you some valuable lessons; the most important was simply how to survive. You get two night lives instead of one! This means it takes at least two successful hits in one night to kill you, or one hit on each of two separate nights. You are notified if you are hit.
Vigilante You may, only once during the game, shoot a player of your choice during the night. You have only one bullet and it is not refunded under any circumstances.
Jailkeeper Every night you may choose one person to jail. You will protect them from 1 KP and prevent them using any role they might have. Neither you nor your target will be informed of successful saves.
Tracker You track people during their nightly business. Every night you may pick a target and will be notified of everybody that person visits. You are not told what actions they performed, just whom they visited. If your target stayed at home, you are told there was “no result”.
Watcher You are a bit of a stalker. Every night you set up shop outside someone's house and will be notified of everybody who visits your target. You are not told what actions they performed, just who visited. If nobody visits your target, you are told there was “no result”.
Nosy Neighbour You can’t help yourself. It’s compulsive! Every night you simply must gossip with one of your neighbours. You visit a random person at night and do nothing, but can be tracked there and watched visiting. You are aware of this behaviour, but are not able to stop it or even control it.
Mafia Roles
Goon You have no additional role beyond being a member of the mafia. Like all members of the mafia, your team may choose you to perform the kill at night.
Roleblocker Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked, and if the person being blocked has a night action, he or she will not be able to use it. Roleblocks work on both active and passive abilities, but block only one ability. Active abilities will be prioritized over passive abilities.
Godfather You are a sneeky bugger and are easily able to evade all watchers and trackers. Tracking you shows a “no result”, even if you perform an action. Similarly, if you visit someone who was watched, he will not be notified of that.
Framer You are a master of disguises and can make yourself look like anybody! Every night you pick two targets. If your first target is tracked, it will look like he visited your second target; regardless of what he actually did that night. Similarly, if your second target is watched, it will look like your first target visited.
3rd party roles
Serial Killer You are a loner. Always have been, always will be. You don’t care for town, but don’t care for the mafia either. You win if you are the last man standing. You have two tools available. First, you may shoot someone every night. Second, on D1 you must choose between two 1-shot abilities: investigation immunity (both watcher and tracker), or bulletproof. You are notified if this ability is used.
If there are any questions about the setup, they may either be PMed to me or posted in the thread in bold green text
+ Show Spoiler [Setup Notes] +
One person on the mafia team may carry out the kill each night. The mafia can choose not to kill. The mafia can kill each other. If the mafia member chosen to kill on a particular night is jailed, no kill will occur. A mafia member may use his ability and kill in the same night.
If a player visits two targets and is tracked, the tracker will be notified that the player visited both targets.
If the SK chooses immunity to watching/tracking and is both tracked and visits a watched target on the same night, neither will be notified (but the SK will be notified that his immunity wore off).
All roleblocks will result in the target being notified.
If a roleblocker targets a jailer and that jailer targets someone else, the jailer is roleblocked, nothing else happens. If a jailer targets a roleblocker and that roleblocker targets someone else, the roleblocker is jailed, nothing else happens. If a jailer and roleblocker target each other, they are both roleblocked, but the roleblocker is not protected from KP.
In the case of a framer: if A is framed to look like he is visiting B (framer picks targets A and B), then: 1. if a watcher has targeted B, he will see A in addition to any other visitors. If, for instance, C visits B, then the watcher will see both A and C visiting. 2. if a tracker has targeted A, and A actually does something, that will be hidden. If for instance, A visits C, then the tracker won't see this and will instead be told that A visited B.
The Players
9-BiT replaced by TestSubject893
- Sevryn
- WaveofShadow
- Sn0_Man
Macheji replaced by ObviousOne
- glurio
- warbaby
- geript
- zarepath
- Mocsta
- cDgCorazon
- Mandalor
- Sylencia
Replacements:
- CrazyF1r3f0x
+ Show Spoiler [Flips] + glurio as Animal (Vanilla Townie) lynched D1 geript as Fozzie Bear (Vanilla Townie) shot N1 WaveofShadow as Rowlf the Dog (Vanilla Townie) shot N1 ObviousOne as Rizzo the Rat lynched D2 TestSubject893 as Dr. Bunsen Honeydew (Tracker) shot N2 Sylencia as Gonzo the Great (Vanilla Townie) lynched D3
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Newbie-specific stuff
- It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity.
- Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest.
- If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM me, or ask in-thread with green text. Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open.
- Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting!
- Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread.
- If you receive coaching, don't tell town about it.
- glhf!
Useful Guides
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/obs, I'd offer to give coaching a shot but between 2 games and hosting I doubt I'd have time.
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
holy complex setup for a newbie.
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On January 28 2013 09:43 FiveTouch wrote: holy complex setup for a newbie. Yeah, I looked through the past few games and saw the same roles being recycled, while "normal" games have so much more to offer. Figured newbie doesn't mean stupid, and a bit of a change is okay. In the end this is still just a standard game, but with slightly different roles
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Where's the difference between watcher and tracker? I don't see any
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On January 28 2013 10:07 Mandalor wrote:Where's the difference between watcher and tracker? I don't see any One follows the actions of a specific person, the other tells you what happened to a specific person.
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On January 28 2013 10:09 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 10:07 Mandalor wrote:Where's the difference between watcher and tracker? I don't see any One follows the actions of a specific person, the other tells you what happened to a specific person. Not what, but who.
Tracker: if your target performs an action you are told whom he performed it on. Watcher: you are told who performed actions on your target.
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/obs
hopefully I'll have time for XXXVIII, fingers crossed. This setup looks interesting.
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I'll play if the start of this is after my death or victory in NMM36.
In the setup overview, there is a misspelling of the word mafia (Ctrl+F "maifa")
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On January 29 2013 01:32 Sn0_Man wrote: I'll play if the start of this is after my death or victory in NMM36.
In the setup overview, there is a misspelling of the word mafia (Ctrl+F "maifa") Noted. Just say the magic /in when either of those things happens.
Also, the typo never happened. Nor did I get the mafia wincon wrong OR omit the SK wincon entirely.
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 01:48 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 01:32 Sn0_Man wrote: I'll play if the start of this is after my death or victory in NMM36.
In the setup overview, there is a misspelling of the word mafia (Ctrl+F "maifa") Noted. Just say the magic /in when either of those things happens. Also, the typo never happened. Nor did I get the mafia wincon wrong OR omit the SK wincon entirely.
surely town need to eliminate SK too?
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On January 29 2013 01:50 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 01:48 Acrofales wrote:On January 29 2013 01:32 Sn0_Man wrote: I'll play if the start of this is after my death or victory in NMM36.
In the setup overview, there is a misspelling of the word mafia (Ctrl+F "maifa") Noted. Just say the magic /in when either of those things happens. Also, the typo never happened. Nor did I get the mafia wincon wrong OR omit the SK wincon entirely. surely town need to eliminate SK too? Of course /nobodysawthatninjaedit
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Of course no ninja edits have occurred. If they had, the word "mafa" wouldn't be found in the setup info, right?
I'll /in when I can don't worry.
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On January 29 2013 03:01 Sn0_Man wrote:Of course no ninja edits have occurred. If they had, the word "mafa" wouldn't be found in the setup info, right? I'll /in when I can don't worry. He said it!
Quick Acro, grab him!
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Oh awesome, I love the muppets!
/obs for now
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