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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Austin, you think Sandroba is just "some guy" ? Lol. I think he is town because of his play thus far. He was scum last game, and I do not think he is playing at all similarly to how he did then.
Here is YOUR OWN list, slightly revised of course. I took out myself because I am not scum, and clarity because he is too strange: randombum marvellosity kenpachi
Randombum at least made an effort earlier on.
I kinda think Marv could be scum, but I don't like a vote on him tonight because if he is town then he will be pretty valuable later on.
Kenpachi is the scummiest looking to me because he has done nothing all game.
Hence, my vote stands on Kenpachi. Are you happy now?
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Also, I hope someone can present a case that is stronger than what I have now. I feel bad for voting for Kenpachi on so little evidence.
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slOosh, you want to explain this?
On December 14 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote: EBWOP:
leaning away from marv pending some results.
Was a weird phrase. Also, I gather that we're waiting for confirmation to see if you have a doublevote or there was a hidden vote?
+ Show Spoiler +***PARANOID RAMBLING*** There's a chance that if someone has a gf-type role, they wouldn't be "anti-town element." This should be saved for WAY, WAY later, but I was just thinking about that while the whole doublevote thing came up. Seems like that's generally a mafia thing, or if a townie has it then they are informed of the fact.
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On December 14 2012 06:59 Dienosore wrote: Austin, you think Sandroba is just "some guy" ? Lol. I think he is town because of his play thus far. He was scum last game, and I do not think he is playing at all similarly to how he did then.
Here is YOUR OWN list, slightly revised of course. I took out myself because I am not scum, and clarity because he is too strange: randombum marvellosity kenpachi
Randombum at least made an effort earlier on.
I kinda think Marv could be scum, but I don't like a vote on him tonight because if he is town then he will be pretty valuable later on.
Kenpachi is the scummiest looking to me because he has done nothing all game.
Hence, my vote stands on Kenpachi. Are you happy now? No. I'm really not, even not trying to be a jerk here.
Sandroba is town. Why? "Because of his play thus far." That's not an actual answer. That's a hollow statement. You think he's playing differently this game than last game. That's MUCH BETTER. That's something that isn't hollow, but it's (1) unsubstantiated (HOW is he playing differently) and (2) you didn't bring that up before.
Moreover, if you're going to be making judgments on sandroba by comparing his play this game to past game, you should go look at kenpachi's games. Kenpachi is pretty well known for just playing his own game and not doing oodles.
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Guys I'm here. Panicking due to lack of time, questions welcome, gogo. Need to read the thread.
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people got swapped. Foolishness is gone. Kereithi is gone. we have austinmcc
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On December 14 2012 07:04 marvellosity wrote: Guys I'm here. Panicking due to lack of time, questions welcome, gogo. Need to read the thread. You. Alignment? (Don't lie)
Thoughts on:
randombum dienosore rugby as an olympic sport kenpachi
You missed me objecting to a statement and telling everyone that Palmar, slOosh, and Crossfire99 are NOT "anti-town elements." So they're good to go for now, and they're worth listening to, although we haven't had a lot of time since then. Otherwise, there have been no big "AHA!" moments.
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On December 14 2012 07:05 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 07:04 marvellosity wrote: Guys I'm here. Panicking due to lack of time, questions welcome, gogo. Need to read the thread. You. Alignment? (Don't lie) Thoughts on: randombum dienosore rugby as an olympic sport kenpachi You missed me objecting to a statement and telling everyone that Palmar, slOosh, and Crossfire99 are NOT "anti-town elements." So they're good to go for now, and they're worth listening to, although we haven't had a lot of time since then. Otherwise, there have been no big "AHA!" moments.
I just got to this. Why the fuck didn't you include me?
This makes me quite suspicious
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
It's less that I think kenpachi is totes scum and more that there aren't many other good options out there right now. I'll be glad to change my vote to randombum if kenpachi starts becoming useful really fast.
That is what you are trying to get me to do, right? Change my vote?
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On December 14 2012 07:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 07:05 austinmcc wrote:On December 14 2012 07:04 marvellosity wrote: Guys I'm here. Panicking due to lack of time, questions welcome, gogo. Need to read the thread. You. Alignment? (Don't lie) Thoughts on: randombum dienosore rugby as an olympic sport kenpachi You missed me objecting to a statement and telling everyone that Palmar, slOosh, and Crossfire99 are NOT "anti-town elements." So they're good to go for now, and they're worth listening to, although we haven't had a lot of time since then. Otherwise, there have been no big "AHA!" moments. I just got to this. Why the fuck didn't you include me? This makes me quite suspicious everyone in the other thread hate us too.
this other worlder shares their opinion
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I figured I had two votes because of marv's ##worship early game, which is why I was leaning away from him. Pending results refers to a vote update, but now since marv is here I guess he can confirm / deny.
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On December 14 2012 07:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 07:05 austinmcc wrote:On December 14 2012 07:04 marvellosity wrote: Guys I'm here. Panicking due to lack of time, questions welcome, gogo. Need to read the thread. You. Alignment? (Don't lie) Thoughts on: randombum dienosore rugby as an olympic sport kenpachi You missed me objecting to a statement and telling everyone that Palmar, slOosh, and Crossfire99 are NOT "anti-town elements." So they're good to go for now, and they're worth listening to, although we haven't had a lot of time since then. Otherwise, there have been no big "AHA!" moments. I just got to this. Why the fuck didn't you include me? This makes me quite suspicious Because you've been gone and doing nothing and we can get to that later. Nobody seems to want to deal with lynching or not lynching you with you being gone today. Get over it. Also, I'm town. (And I DID ask you for your alignment).
Oh...wait. You mean in terms of the people I listed? SEE ABOVE. You've been gone, can't get a good read on you, wanted to stop at 3, blah blah blah. Shut up and thank me later for actually finding 3 townies.
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I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks of me, what gets me is that *austin* didn't include me as a check.
austin is well known for having complete paranoia about my play.
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On December 14 2012 07:09 slOosh wrote: I figured I had two votes because of marv's ##worship early game, which is why I was leaning away from him. Pending results refers to a vote update, but now since marv is here I guess he can confirm / deny.
why do you figure that?
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slOosh, why are you voting for yourself?
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On December 14 2012 07:07 Dienosore wrote: It's less that I think kenpachi is totes scum and more that there aren't many other good options out there right now. I'll be glad to change my vote to randombum if kenpachi starts becoming useful really fast.
That is what you are trying to get me to do, right? Change my vote? No. I'm less concerned with who you're voting than...how?
I dunno how closely you followed CT after dying, but all the stuff I was calling phagga for is stuff I think is scummy. If you don't commit to reads, with reasoning, then your thoughts on everyone are just malleable and can change all game whenever you need them to. That makes YOU more difficult to read, and you look scummy, AND we can't really trust what you're saying about anyone because we don't know where it came from.
I want actual thoughts, reads, that I can hold you to. Like, whether I agree with your ultimate read or not, I think the thought process behind a read can be very telling of someone's alignment. Why does X find Y townie or scummy?
When you don't provide that, you look scummy to me. I want to be able to discern your alignment (or more specifically, find you town if you're town). I care about that more than I care about who you're voting for today.
I don't want votes on randombum right now. But I don't want him sitting by the wayside. Bringing him up, tossing him around, and getting a decent number of "ZOMG DON'T LYNCH RANDOMBUM" is enough for me.
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Ugh, I read through random's filter and that left me thinking he's town. He made what I consider to be a dumb statement here + Show Spoiler +On December 13 2012 16:27 randombum wrote: No idea, not nearly enough information to say somebody is scum or not. I might consider lynching austin just because I still think focusing lynches on people who started on one world first is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives. but he read over austin's filter and said he doesn't want to lynch him because he thinks austin's town. I liked that because he did work and just didn't cop out with a policy lynch. This means he will now have to actually think and come up with some reads now, which he seems to be in the process of doing.
Now where does that leave me? Lynching kenpachi for being unreadable. I don't want to do that. Ugh...
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On December 14 2012 07:12 marvellosity wrote: slOosh, why are you voting for yourself? I think he's trying to figure out the votecount shenanigans.
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On December 14 2012 07:09 marvellosity wrote: I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks of me, what gets me is that *austin* didn't include me as a check.
austin is well known for having complete paranoia about my play. If I were going to check you, I'd have to just check you, because I'd be paranoid.
I don't want to just check you, I want to actually narrow down the total options for anti-town folks on this side of the world.
We already have two small groups to work with, I was able to cut the size of one group by 1/3 to 1/2. That's more important than your alignment for today, given that we needed something to get things moving.
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On December 14 2012 06:09 GreYMisT wrote: GreY's Votecount
Palmar (1): Randombum
Crossfire99 (2): SlOosh
No one to be lynched I voted myself to see if there was a hidden vote on Crossfire or I somehow obtained doublevotes. The ##worship thing was just a guess.
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