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Hi all,
Writing on behalf of my fiance (Katie)
We are moving to North Carolina soon where I'll be stationed. So obviously I have my job (military), but she again will have to find work.
Background: She graduated with a Bachelor's in Legal studies. She worked at a bank(TCF), and recently an oil/gas company as a receptionist, maybe a couple years experience overall.
She originally wanted paralegal work, but the typical "you need experience" answer was the only result.
Now it's at the point where she really doesn't know what the hell she wants to do.
I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for work for someone who is pretty quiet/shy, and doesn't like jobs dealing with people (she's waitressed before).
I don't want links to Yahoo's top 10 jobs for introverts, or links to personality tests; Just personal opinions of jobs you think she may be interested in. Maybe jobs that you do yourselves, or jobs you know of that seems like it suits someone who isn't interested in dealing with people.
Sorry my post isn't very detailed, let me know if more details needed, thanks in advance!
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pro gamer in starcraft 2/dota/league since she's introverted probably sc2
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On November 26 2012 10:40 OutlaW- wrote: pro gamer in starcraft 2/dota/league since she's introverted probably sc2 Playing starcraft has nothing to do with your personality... There are all sorts of different personalities in starcraft players.
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^LOL real?
my advice: i dunno how much money you want to make, but cleaning is probably your best bet for not dealing with lots of ppl obviously, you have to deal with SOME people no matter what job you get, but if you dont want to have to talk to lots of people (like waitressing) i wuold say some kind of small housecleaning job or whatnot.
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On November 26 2012 10:48 snively wrote: ^LOL real? Yep! Clicky
There are introverts and extroverts alike playing in Masters.
Anywho, enough about Starcraft.
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she's in the wrong extrovert-fetishizing, service-economy-having society for that one, I'm afraid
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Maybe some kind of internal administrative job? I have friends who do the "paperwork process" kind of jobs and they don't need to talk to people all that much, what is needed mainly is attention to detail.
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Learn programming, and then just sit at home writing code for a company. I know a guy who does it.
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On November 26 2012 11:13 vOdToasT wrote: Learn programming, and then just sit at home writing code for a company. I know a guy who does it.
Or she could just, you know, learn chemistry and work in a lab. Or, you know, just learn astronomy and go work on a radar. Or she could just, learn math and become a college math professor. Or maybe she could learn about physics and invent warp travel.
Simple as that really.
Nevermind something relevant to the degree she already has.
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thedeadhaji
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Your best bet is a personal secretary. Literally all you do is talk to that one person. One other job I would recommend is being a medical filer. What you do is you file medical documents and do desk work, not a receptionist, but rather the person that makes sure all files are where they are supposed to be.
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thedeadhaji
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On November 26 2012 11:33 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 11:13 vOdToasT wrote: Learn programming, and then just sit at home writing code for a company. I know a guy who does it. Or she could just, you know, learn chemistry and work in a lab. Or, you know, just learn astronomy and go work on a radar. Or she could just, learn math and become a college math professor. Or maybe she could learn about physics and invent warp travel. Simple as that really.
well SW is one of the very few areas where the "equipment" you need to learn the key skills is very very cheap (basically a decent computer + an internet connection + google). There are great resources out there online for people to take this step and there are many success stories out there where people with little to no previous technical background have successfully become developers.
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On November 26 2012 11:35 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 11:33 Sinensis wrote:On November 26 2012 11:13 vOdToasT wrote: Learn programming, and then just sit at home writing code for a company. I know a guy who does it. Or she could just, you know, learn chemistry and work in a lab. Or, you know, just learn astronomy and go work on a radar. Or she could just, learn math and become a college math professor. Or maybe she could learn about physics and invent warp travel. Simple as that really. well SW is one of the very few areas where the "equipment" you need to learn the key skills is very very cheap (basically a decent computer + an internet connection + google). There are great resources out there online for people to take this step and there are many success stories out there where people with little to no previous technical background have successfully become developers.
She's talking about getting a job. Who do you know that's hiring self taught programmers with no degrees, certifications, or experience in the field?
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Have her look into local government jobs. There can be lots of entry level roles in city and county offices with no to minimal public interaction. Usually the only real requirement is to have a degree then you take tests in the interview process.
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On November 26 2012 11:38 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 11:35 thedeadhaji wrote:On November 26 2012 11:33 Sinensis wrote:On November 26 2012 11:13 vOdToasT wrote: Learn programming, and then just sit at home writing code for a company. I know a guy who does it. Or she could just, you know, learn chemistry and work in a lab. Or, you know, just learn astronomy and go work on a radar. Or she could just, learn math and become a college math professor. Or maybe she could learn about physics and invent warp travel. Simple as that really. well SW is one of the very few areas where the "equipment" you need to learn the key skills is very very cheap (basically a decent computer + an internet connection + google). There are great resources out there online for people to take this step and there are many success stories out there where people with little to no previous technical background have successfully become developers. She's talking about getting a job. Who do you know that's hiring self taught programmers with no degrees, certifications, or experience in the field?
The one professional programmer I know has no degree. Having a degree makes getting a job much easier (It can be quite hard without a degree and without contacts), but you can learn it on your own (You have to start with theory, though. Pseudo code and stuff like that), and then get a job off just an associate's degree, which isn't quite expensive at all (I'm assuming she lives in the United States, and that she therefor has to pay for her degrees / grades). Just learn programming, then go collect your degree after you already know it.
The things you learn from studying for an Associate's degree are not enough, but the degree itself is. People who hire look at degrees, even though they are quite pointless when it comes to programming. An old high level degree doesn't mean you can do what you need to do, and a new associate's degree doesn't either, but they still care a lot about it for some reason.
If you can
1: Learn to program 2: Get an associate's degree and 3: Write some sophisticated programs to include in your resume then your chances are pretty good, and once you manage to get going, you're set for life.
You could skip step 3 and get a higher degree in computer science instead, but that's obviously more expensive and time consuming. You might be able to skip step 3 and get a job with just an associate's, without writing anything. Some people have done that, but if you CAN make programs to show off your knowledge, there's no reason not to.
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Librarian is a pretty stereotypical introvert job. You need an ALA accredited degree to be considered a "true" librarian (MLS, MIS or something similar, it just has to be ALA accredited).
However, you can get part-time/paraprofessional library jobs, usually with a bachelors. I landed one a few years ago then went back to school to get an MLS.
They are pretty hard to get, though, as a lot of people want them. They also don't pay particularly well and it is hard to get a full time library job without an MLS. Most states have a listing of open library jobs, here is the one for NC:
http://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/ld/jobs.html
That shouldn't be considered a comprehensive list, and you'll have to go through each one and see which ones want an ALA accredited degree. Hope that helps.
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ok so what about the 1 bazillion other people who are also trying to get into the current fad field, and who might have some natural inclination for this (which is seems she doesn't, in particular)? This programming stuff is the worst advice I've ever heard
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I think looking for those kind of jobs is the wrong approach. In every single job you have to deal with other people. Even as programmer - the usual job for introverts - i had to coordinate with coworkers, take part in design meetings, etc., in the end i spent more time talking to people than writing code. I hate talking to other people, i think every single person is an idiot and should just go away and die, but over time i learned to deal with others so they no longer get into the way of the work i want to do.
The reason for the shyness is probably because she doesn't feel like she has common interests with other people, BUT if she looks for a job she is actually interested in doing, she can meet people with the same interests and work on becoming less introverted. Of course an introverted person will rarely become extroverted, but not doing what you like to do because you might have to come into contact with other people is just hurting herself.
What hobbies does she have? Is there any hobby that might be turned into work?
TL;DR: She should try to find work in whatever area she actually loves to do, not find a job to avoid people even more.
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How about government work? Her degree could be useful in a courthouse or working for the municipality where you live. They're always looking for people with a background in law. Why not police or military? They need receptionists and background personnel and maybe you could help her get a foot in the door through people you know.
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On November 26 2012 11:51 vOdToasT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 11:38 Sinensis wrote:On November 26 2012 11:35 thedeadhaji wrote:On November 26 2012 11:33 Sinensis wrote:On November 26 2012 11:13 vOdToasT wrote: Learn programming, and then just sit at home writing code for a company. I know a guy who does it. Or she could just, you know, learn chemistry and work in a lab. Or, you know, just learn astronomy and go work on a radar. Or she could just, learn math and become a college math professor. Or maybe she could learn about physics and invent warp travel. Simple as that really. well SW is one of the very few areas where the "equipment" you need to learn the key skills is very very cheap (basically a decent computer + an internet connection + google). There are great resources out there online for people to take this step and there are many success stories out there where people with little to no previous technical background have successfully become developers. She's talking about getting a job. Who do you know that's hiring self taught programmers with no degrees, certifications, or experience in the field? The one professional programmer I know has no degree. Having a degree makes getting a job much easier (It can be quite hard without a degree and without contacts), but you can learn it on your own (You have to start with theory, though. Pseudo code and stuff like that), and then get a job off just an associate's degree, which isn't quite expensive at all (I'm assuming she lives in the United States, and that she therefor has to pay for her degrees / grades). Just learn programming, then go collect your degree after you already know it. The things you learn from studying for an Associate's degree are not enough, but the degree itself is. People who hire look at degrees, even though they are quite pointless when it comes to programming. An old high level degree doesn't mean you can do what you need to do, and a new associate's degree doesn't either, but they still care a lot about it for some reason. If you can 1: Learn to program 2: Get an associate's degree and 3: Write some sophisticated programs to include in your resume then your chances are pretty good, and once you manage to get going, you're set for life. You could skip step 3 and get a higher degree in computer science instead, but that's obviously more expensive and time consuming. You might be able to skip step 3 and get a job with just an associate's, without writing anything. Some people have done that, but if you CAN make programs to show off your knowledge, there's no reason not to.
I don't think you know very much about what you're talking about, so maybe you shouldn't be giving advice.
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