[Updated] SSL Finals licensing issues - Page 11
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Atticus.axl
United States456 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49490 Posts
On November 14 2012 19:24 rotinegg wrote: I'm sure there are plenty of bilinguals on TL who would be more than willing to translate your message, including myself I know he reads teamliquid, I think he has an TL account too.... | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On November 14 2012 19:26 ImbaTosS wrote: Is there a definite way to get it to him personally? On November 14 2012 19:27 BLinD-RawR wrote: I know he reads teamliquid, I think he has an TL account too.... I would loooooooooooove to send him a little PM expressing my gratitude | ||
Aerisky
United States12128 Posts
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Falling
Canada11222 Posts
On November 14 2012 18:56 Shockk wrote: Oh, I'll gladly leave. I appreciate your response; despite the overwhelming arrogance, yours is still one of the more level-headed replies. While you're all busy circlejerking, remember that this thread and these posts are TL's response to the situation. You could have taken the high road, waited for the other side to make a statement and either stayed silent in the meantime or at least have taken a more civil approach. Instead, it's gone right to the ugly part - SC2 is killing BW, FUCK BLIZZARD, "we don't want SC2 fanboys in here", FUCK BLIZZARD, FUCK BLIZZARD. So mature. So manner. Understand that I'm not taking any issues with you guys blowing off steam. I agree that it's very questionable what Blizzard did there. I understand passion, and hot-headed reactions regarding threats to one's hobby. But this thread is pathetic. Ok. This is actually irritating me more than it ought to. Talk about arrogance. You pop in here all high and mighty saying what the BW forum is like these days. Actually, the BW subforum has been pretty upbeat and cheerful these days. You'd see more SC2 bashing in LR threads and the HotS subforum than you did in the BW subforum. The SC2 vs BW thing had kinda faded even. It was reasonably peaceable and forward looking. There was hope. Things were picking up. We had new tournaments and old players coming back. And then this comes crashing down. A stake into these new found dreams. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, you show up at a gathering where news has just arrived of someone dear who might not make it. And then you have the audacity to come in here and tell us we should take the high road. That this is the reason you don't like the BW subforum? Rain at a funeral man. Rain at a funeral. This thread is not representative of the current state of BW subforums, nor will it be representative of it in the future. We're not even steamed about SC2 or SC2 fans. It's all about Blizzard. I probably shouldn't have replied to that and I don't want to rabble. But there it is. | ||
Atticus.axl
United States456 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38149 Posts
There has been a long standing stipulation that tournaments with a bigger than $5k prize pool (that SSL does have this season) have to negotiate licensing terms with Blizzard and I wonder if this is what has come up See TB's blog regarding his SCI tournaments for SC2 You are probably aware that the standard tournament license has a $5000 limit on it. Go any higher than that and you have to arrange things with Blizzard, which as I've explained before, usually involves them taking a share of your ad revenue, which for this tournament would hurt us more than it would help. Different games of course but I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard's licensing is the same across both. I believe this is the first season of the SSL to clear the $5k prize pool mark and perhaps this is what he's run into issues with? Not sure if it is plausible but maybe he could just lower the prize pool to the $5k limit in the short term if this might be the case. I'm sure the players would understand and be sympathetic. | ||
Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3666 Posts
On November 14 2012 16:46 BLinD-RawR wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen would you please join me in the attempt to make the Biggest fuck you to Blizzard in Internet History? FUCK OFF BLIZZARD! Oh fuck yeah I do. What the fucking fuck blizzard, you want me to not buy any games from you again ever? I was fucking looking forward to this and you have nothing better to do than fuck brood war after already forcing star 2 on kespa? It's ok that you think that your sad excuse of a brood war successor should be played by everyone and their mothers, but please let me fucking watch brood war, because thats what I fucking love doing. WTF is wrong with you people half of china plays your games pirated in pc bangs, maybe you should put more effort into doing something about that and less about fucking what is left of the greatest esports game of all time. And just for the record, yeah I play star 2, yeah I enjoy it, yeah I watch it too, but watching Brood War is just the best thing to watch and I was really looking forward to the rest of SSL, and lets be honest brood war is by far the better game. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 14 2012 19:38 Asha` wrote: Does anyone know more details about the exact nature of the licensing stuff? There has been a long standing stipulation that tournaments with a bigger than $5k prize pool (that SSL does have this season) have to negotiate licensing terms with Blizzard and I wonder if this is what has come up See TB's blog regarding his SCI tournaments for SC2 Different games of course but I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard's licensing is the same across both. I believe this is the first season of the SSL to clear the $5k prize pool mark and perhaps this is what he's run into issues with? Not sure if it is plausible but maybe he could just lower the prize pool to the $5k limit in the short term if this might be the case. I'm sure the players would understand and be sympathetic. I think you are correct in your assessment of the situation. Not 100% sure, but my impression is that if he lower it then he would be able to continue as planned. These licenses are standard though. And while the timing seems a bit suspect, Blizzard don't *really* deserve a big fuck you from the community. BW is simply being treated as if it were another ESPORT title owned by Blizz (i.e. the $5k limit is imposed). Sonic just wasn't aware of this, it's tough to blame him for the situation though because it isn't the most obvious thing in the world esp. given BWs past and no previous issues. | ||
AssyrianKing
Australia2111 Posts
On November 14 2012 19:43 Plexa wrote: I think you are correct in your assessment of the situation. Not 100% sure, but my impression is that if he lower it then he would be able to continue as planned. But why now out of all moments, there was an announcement and partnership months before the finals, it's just makes me angry... | ||
imMUTAble787
United States680 Posts
Great company. They do awesome things like this, but no it doesn't stop there. They also employ creative geniuses like Browder and Kim. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 14 2012 19:46 PiPoGevy wrote: Yes the timing is very poor, but Blizz Korea are known for being notoriously slow with these things. Innocent mistake or intentional blow? It's difficult to tell. I really hope that things can be worked out, even if it means Sonic is capped at 5k for a while.But why now out of all moments, there was an announcement and partnership months before the finals, it's just makes me angry... | ||
JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On November 14 2012 19:38 Asha` wrote: Does anyone know more details about the exact nature of the licensing stuff? There has been a long standing stipulation that tournaments with a bigger than $5k prize pool (that SSL does have this season) have to negotiate licensing terms with Blizzard and I wonder if this is what has come up See TB's blog regarding his SCI tournaments for SC2 Different games of course but I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard's licensing is the same across both. I believe this is the first season of the SSL to clear the $5k prize pool mark and perhaps this is what he's run into issues with? Not sure if it is plausible but maybe he could just lower the prize pool to the $5k limit in the short term if this might be the case. I'm sure the players would understand and be sympathetic. I read a post on sonics page saying hte limit is $500 prize pool and he surpassed that amount on multiple tourneys.. | ||
Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
Also doesnt all this bullshit cost more than they actually would make for blizzard? | ||
Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
Fuck off Blizz. | ||
Pro7ecT
Korea (South)66 Posts
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Arterial
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ArvickHero
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On November 14 2012 19:47 JohnChoi wrote: I read a post on sonics page saying hte limit is $500 prize pool and he surpassed that amount on multiple tourneys.. source last (event, not official .. like 6.5) SSL had a sponsor and 3k prize pool which is well over 500 .. along w/ many of his other SSLs and BJ Ranking tourneys So Blizz has separate rules for SC2 and BW for prize pool limits. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49490 Posts
BTW its $5000 not $500 | ||
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