EPT[Interview] Code S Ro16 Group B 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 2
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Heavenfallz
Australia73 Posts
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 14 2012 03:50 Arceus wrote: turns out the only thing that holds Hyun back is the group play. From now on, the world is yours Twist, hyun is worthless in BO5 and BO7 only god like in BO3 and BO9. | ||
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Thurken
961 Posts
Look at the results of the last big events (there for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/events/ ) Last 3 korean events (OSL, GSL, WCS Asia): 1 zerg 2 protosses, 0 terran 3 korean events before that: 0 zerg, 2 protoss 1 terran (or 1z, 1p, 1t depend what you consider a korean event) Last 3 big foreign events with korean (MLG, ESWC, DH Valencia): 1 zerg, 1 protoss, 1 terran 3 foreign event before that (MLG, ASUS ROG, IEM): 1 zerg, 0 protoss, 2 terran Where is your supposedly zerg dominance? | ||
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:00 Thurken wrote: It is annoying to see interviewers (or other supposedly unbiased people) implying that Zerg are doing way better than Protoss and Terran. Look at the results of the last big events (there for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/events/ ) Last 3 korean events (OSL, GSL, WCS Asia): 1 zerg 2 protosses, 0 terran 3 korean events before that: 0 zerg, 2 protoss 1 terran (or 1z, 1p, 1t depend what you consider a korean event) Last 3 big foreign events with korean (MLG, ESWC, DH Valencia): 1 zerg, 1 protoss, 1 terran 3 foreign event before that (MLG, ASUS ROG, IEM): 1 zerg, 0 protoss, 2 terran Where is your supposedly zerg dominance? ur trolling right ? becose if you ever watch those events you would know zerg wins over 80% of late game matches while protoss and terran wins by rushes . thats the problem . | ||
Poopi
France12738 Posts
"well if you are protoss you can, huh do a timing attack before hive!! yeah a timing attack can work, or not but still it's a fix!! terran?" A timing attack doesn't change the problem t;t. Lol Byun and Maru hating TvT, I guess they just like TvP then. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:18 Poopi wrote: Lol typical zerg's answer from Hyun about ZvX : "well if you are protoss you can, huh do a timing attack before hive!! yeah a timing attack can work, or not but still it's a fix!! terran?" A timing attack doesn't change the problem t;t. Lol Byun and Maru hating TvT, I guess they just like TvP then. I guess the "well yea if i let zerg reach late game, it doesn't matter how good i am, i will still lose" stuff is better eh? | ||
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HolydaKing
21251 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:18 Poopi wrote: Lol typical zerg's answer from Hyun about ZvX : "well if you are protoss you can, huh do a timing attack before hive!! yeah a timing attack can work, or not but still it's a fix!! terran?" A timing attack doesn't change the problem t;t. Lol Byun and Maru hating TvT, I guess they just like TvP then. Well he isn't that wrong. Currently, Top Korean Protoss have shown to have plenty options to kill Zergs before they reach Broodlords and the terrans aren't doing bad either when it's important. He also basically admits that Broodlord+Infestor is imba once you reach it, so i'm sure he'd be fine if they nerf it but buff something else. What's worst is that Broodlord+Infestor is terribly boring to watch. | ||
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Poopi
France12738 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:26 HolydaKing wrote: Well he isn't that wrong. Currently, Top Korean Protoss have shown to have plenty options to kill Zergs before they reach Broodlords and the terrans aren't doing bad either when it's important. He also basically admits that Broodlord+Infestor is imba once you reach it, so i'm sure he'd be fine if they nerf it but buff something else. What's worst is that Broodlord+Infestor is terribly boring to watch. So nowadays PvZ is like the old ZvP where protoss turtled until colossi-void ray? Well :/. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:00 Thurken wrote: It is annoying to see interviewers (or other supposedly unbiased people) implying that Zerg are doing way better than Protoss and Terran. Look at the results of the last big events (there for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/events/ ) Last 3 korean events (OSL, GSL, WCS Asia): 1 zerg 2 protosses, 0 terran 3 korean events before that: 0 zerg, 2 protoss 1 terran (or 1z, 1p, 1t depend what you consider a korean event) Last 3 big foreign events with korean (MLG, ESWC, DH Valencia): 1 zerg, 1 protoss, 1 terran 3 foreign event before that (MLG, ASUS ROG, IEM): 1 zerg, 0 protoss, 2 terran Where is your supposedly zerg dominance? That doesn't matter, using 1 all-in(immortal sentry all in ofc) because it's ridiculously over-powered doesn't make the game or races balanced. TvZ is still being figured out but Terran is doing a lot better. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Of course Hyun would say that the game is fine as it is, I mean Protoss has that one timing attack they can do, lol. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6518 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:33 darkness wrote: Hyun suggests chargelots. In what cases though? Infestors and roaches counter them Chargelots do surprising well vs roaches. They suck ass against infesters/Everything zerg makes late game. But if late game you can build a bank, spend minerals on mass zealots to try and snipe key structures/bases. You can force a slow zerg army to come to you(If they aren't mining/have no tech they have to kill you with the army they have). The problem is you actually have to then hold that attack xD | ||
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PixelNite
France1008 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:33 darkness wrote: Hyun suggests chargelots. In what cases though? Infestors and roaches counter them Check out Creator recent VODs, he add them in his play and it helps a lot | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:33 darkness wrote: Hyun suggests chargelots. In what cases though? Infestors and roaches counter them They help for winning with pre-BL timings because they let you engage a Spine wall so much better. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:56 ZAiNs wrote: They help for winning with pre-BL timings because they let you engage a Spine wall so much better. Ehhh when I use them they just get fungaled. I assumed he meant for harass. Chargelots are decently good for harass (non chargelots blow) because usually there's an infestor/ling composition as the mobile units. Only the lings have the speed to deal with the multipronged harass, meaning that the protoss can trade quite fine, using a lot of Zerg larvae and transforming Toss minerals into something actuall USEFUL (seeing as toss is gas starved, not mineral starved) to buy lots of time. | ||
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Thurken
961 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:12 xsnac wrote: ur trolling right ? becose if you ever watch those events you would know zerg wins over 80% of late game matches while protoss and terran wins by rushes . thats the problem . I'm not saying the game is balanced. Some race are better early game, some better mid game and some better late game. What I'm saying is that the results show that no race is overpowered overall. Blizzard still has to do something because you can easily know who's gonna win the game according to its length and it's not exciting. And regarding your statement, since early game comes before late game, I'd rather be powerful early game than late game... Once the game is over, it's over... | ||
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JJH777
United States4372 Posts
On November 14 2012 04:29 Poopi wrote: So nowadays PvZ is like the old ZvP where protoss turtled until colossi-void ray? Well :/. No because Zerg can't build their army off 2 bases and Protoss has much better defensive options. It's a lot easier to break zerg before they get infestor/brood than it was to break Protoss before they got voidray/colossus | ||
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