Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX - Page 29

On October 26 2012 16:17 Inigmaticalism wrote:


Alright here we go.

1. I deny nothing about not scum hunting. I have only had time to read the thread, and have found town looking
players: debears, rad, djo(tho im not sure anymore, more on that later). As I said, I will have time in a few
days to do proper scum hunting. If you feel that is not a risk worth taking, so be it. Ill give my scum
hunting/reading in my next post.
-And, if your going to pull out reasons to lynch me based not on what I have done, but what I havent
done, then perhaps you should also look at Oats and Imcasey who havent scumhunted OR contributed (or at least
tried) Or posted at all.

2. Ha I am anything BUT emotionally detached from this game. In fact, Ive been getting so emotional I dont
think I can or should play mafia games and just go back to watching/reading them. All the logical things I
want to say and rules I want to follow fly out the window, and its dumb. Here is Mr cheesecake calling me out
on it:


I actually almost rage-quit and threw out on-purpose made-up scumslips and such, so I just got to working on
homework and stepped away. Im not sure why you said im emotionally detached. Very odd. But you are right about
spectating. In the particular post you quoted of mine, I was attempting to get Rad and Debears to drop their
argument because it had shown me they were town and should therefore work together. Course they ignored me and
kept on arguing policies and confidences and whatnot. So your accusation is false, unless you leave off the
word 'emotional'.

3. Gaining town credit. I am going to split this definition so I can understand what you mean. I put that
there originally to be a flag that I was town, for ppl to pick up on. Then cause no one got it or was simply
silent about it, I used it as a defense, and then it became a WIFOM, or so im told. I understand a
little better how WIFOM works cause I didnt know before (ironically it was you Djo who told me so) but Im
probably still going to mess that up again in the future. So ya I used a WIFOM argument. I originally wanted

(before the wifom) to gain town 'status' by showing I was town.
Now town credit would certainly come by that. I see town credit as town standing, as in how much people
listen to you. I actually think since you are the first one to bring this up you are a lot more interested in
it. You can believe I was trying to get town credit all you want, but what would I use it for? What cases do I
have to push? None. Even if I did get town credit, it would have been of no use to me, and it still isnt of
any use to me now.

And to put it out there in case I wasnt clear, I am a Vanilla Townie. "Ya, sure, everyones a
town, etc". I know I wouldnt believe the claim I just made up front either. Im just letting you know Im not
gonna come out with some crazy blue claim or cry for medic support later on. No tricks here.

Last, I found a some fun information on Djo:



Which means that Djo is voting because he thinks I am a semi-lurker, not because I am scum. He does however

clarify better here:


So then he does say he thinks I am scum. So all I really want you to clarify Djo is whether you think I am
actually scum, or am just the scummiest looking semi-lurker. If its the latter, based on what youve said at
the beginning of the game that doesnt fit you. I would want to have more solid proof of scum. Although it is
day 1 so....
I would label Djo as like 70% town. Hes been consistent and contributing. I think hes gone after me
too long to be mafia. He has talked an awful lot though. Its probably more likely, with all his questions and
style of scumhunting, thats hes a vigi or SK or something like that, seeing who he can get lynched (who he
thinks is scum if hes vigi, etc), and then who he cant hes found his night targets. Just a thought.

Fun facts:
-Djo labeled me and Dandel as scumteam in pre-game
*Personally with all his questions I think Djo is trying to get all his friends to tell him about me cause he

secretly wants to date me

On October 26 2012 18:22 Inigmaticalism wrote:
If I couldnt lynch any lurkers I really wouldnt want to lynch, but we have to.
-Asln has posts (if im right) 3 posts so far. Almost just says 'Im here', but at least he contributes
something (FOS at you mostly). I would want to vote for him later simply because he actually said something.
-Sylvers interesting because he has tried to be helpful in his own way (role-hunting, player list repost), but
once we made him clarify what he was doing hes been silent. Discouraged townie or having a hard time finding
fact stuff to post? Really not sure.
-Roco has 2 posts and says nothing. Yeah, policy stuff, but really policy stuff can be said at one time and
then the player can vote however they really want to vote later. Once again, maybe townie shut down once he
voiced his opinion? Cept hes scummier to me since he doesnt say anything. Roco and Asln, post a few more
posts! They can be real simple, just give 1 or a few scum-reads and a few reasons/facts to back them up. Its
ok if they rip you apart, they did me, its about getting some more info/different insight out there for town.
-Dandel may be my biggest strong scum read. Its funny, most people go after those who post lots and those who
post little, not those who post a decent amount(cheesecake, dandel) or not at all(oats, imcasey). Hes been
fairly active, pushing different discussions here and there, nothing too major, thats what Ive been doing.
Then he takes up a case against Roco, and not only is Roco probably the easiest target to target, but he
doesnt even get real serious about it. He FOS to make it LOOk strong, but explains why hes being soft about it

here:


He also says how hes not going to let Roco slide, and thats exactly what hes done. Not one mention of Roco in
the few posts hes made after that. And he seems to talk to all the semi-lurkers and Djo. Not sure if thats
anything important, but Ill keep it in mind.

THEN he tries to start EVEN MORE policy discussion, again, in my own words, "stupid (because I was frustrated)
and pointless." Contributing to killing time rather than scum-hunting. No attempt to explain why not either,
just getting everyones policy straight is "important":



Like I said, because you can simply change your stance and have wonderful excuses like "of course Id lynch
scum over my policy, duh" or whatever, its wasted time. Not only does it look like its a pro-town move, but I
would think mafia would benefit more from town knowing how people were going to vote. Swing lynches easier.
(And that BETTER NOT be wifom. Cause I think its a darn good idea).

- I am most willing to Vote for Dandel, and if I have any time for more scumhunting, it will be on you dan.

Please feel free to reply to this so I can think about what to do before lynch-time.

-Mr. CC I like his style a lot, and have thought he was very townie. However, I need to actually read what hes
said just like I just did to dandel to see if its content or fluff, but I REALLY need to sleep, so I cant. One
of you lurkers (or someone), take up this job while Im lurking between now and lynch-time. Otherwise Ill get
to it Day2 if Im still alive. The only thing against him is the post I made a few posts up about him giving me

a seriously stern 'look', where its almost like he defends and attacks me at the same time. So....interesting.
-Da0ud is somewhere among my roco dandel alsn (discounting no posters) list, but I honestly have no idea what

hes said, and without knowing this knowledge I would be uncomfortable voting for him right now.
-And that leaves the rest of you Ive made the risky leap of faith to label as townies for now: Djo, rad,

debears, and Mr CC depending on what he says and when I read all his stuff.

[red]I am very hesitant to do this, but I think I will have plenty of time to change my vote.
I would vote for you right now Dandel, and will do so at the end of the day if you fail to answer any of my

questions, but while we wait for your responses I want to poke for more information.

##Vote: imcasey
Tell me why I should not vote for you.

On October 25 2012 13:47 sylverfyre wrote:
Also geez, as much as I like lynch a Lurker... isn't it a bit early? We're like 10% into day 1! If someone's still lurking when we're getting closer to lynch time, I could be convinced, but I feel like policy lynching lurkers should be something to resort to if we can't find anyone else being sketchy.

With that, I'm going to bed. I'll be around most of tomorrow!

On October 25 2012 22:10 sylverfyre wrote:
@ Dandel Ion - you've basically said something anti-policy and pro-policy at the same time. What?

How exactly does opposing Lynch a Lurker policy give off a town read? For me it gives off a 0.1% scum read to oppose a reasonable, but not infallible, Day 1 strategy. And if we get to the end of the day and there are still people who have only made the minimal of posts despite people accusing them (example: Roco if we were close to lynch time), then I think that's a perfectly solid lynch candidate.

On October 26 2012 00:32 sylverfyre wrote:
Quick reminder-list of player-filters:

Game start was at: October 25, 9:00AM Server time.
Clarity hasn't posted since gamestart.
imcasey hasn't posted since gamestart.
Oatsmaster hasn't posted since gamestart.
Inig has posted a few times.
Roco has posted a few times.

On October 26 2012 01:01 sylverfyre wrote:
Get the lurkers to respond to suspicions. If they fail that, THEN you lynch them. Nobody's advocating a blind lurker lynch without trying to talk to them first.