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kushm4sta
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Saying we will lynch lurkers is one thing. Deciding whether a lurker should die later at day two is another. What I said is I'm inclined to lynch a lurker if there aren't better choices, not that we will 100% lynch a lurker. @Stutters I'd like to see more posts from you. In XXIV you showed you were capable of making decent posts as town, so I encourage you to post eve more here. @kush What's your view on darthpunk? You said you don't like his coldness, but you don't like it in a "he's scum" sort of way? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:40 kushm4sta wrote: thank you now I won't be nk lol what? ## Vote: Kush | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
before this game even started you said you were going lynch me if i play the same way ive been playing. well guess what that's my personality and it's not changing so if you don't like it too bad? you said "if you talk policy again im fosing you." I make a post. 1 sentence of flame. For that I am sorry (not really). Second sentence was a brief explanation of why I think 1 post on policy discussion is a good idea. "if you talk policy again im fosing you." The second post I make in response to that is basically saying policy policy policy policy. And you don't get that it's a joke? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:43 Z-BosoN wrote: @kush What's your view on darthpunk? You said you don't like his coldness, but you don't like it in a "he's scum" sort of way? I dont like it in an i don't like it kind of way. No scumread on him. I realize that it's not productive so I won't mention it again unless to answer a question someone asks. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:48 kushm4sta wrote: anyway to defend myself: before this game even started you said you were going lynch me if i play the same way ive been playing. well guess what that's my personality and it's not changing so if you don't like it too bad? you said "if you talk policy again im fosing you." I make a post. 1 sentence of flame. For that I am sorry (not really). Second sentence was a brief explanation of why I think 1 post on policy discussion is a good idea. "if you talk policy again im fosing you." The second post I make in response to that is basically saying policy policy policy policy. And you don't get that it's a joke? I am voting for you because you seem scummy. The joke thing just created confusion (obviously) and crapped up the thread. Also I am not against policy talk but that first post where you talk policy was also scummy as hell. And the thing with the not getting night killed? Yeah you did the exact same thing in your last game as scum. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
And my nk comment is it not true? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:53 DarthPunk wrote: Also I am not against policy talk but that first post where you talk policy was also scummy as hell. Why was that scummy? You say something that you know, since you've been watching me like a creeper, would piss me off, then you vote for me for responding to it. So why was my policy talk scummy? You didn't even mention that in your vote post. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:55 kushm4sta wrote: Sorry but it's something in me I can't help myself but antagonize people like you. And my nk comment is it not true? You are hardly antagonizing me. But no, it is not true. Firstly, if you were town you are not getting night killed. There is a reason that you have never been night killed, even when you claimed JK day one. Secondly, you are not getting night killed because you are not town.  | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:59 DarthPunk wrote: You are hardly antagonizing me. But no, it is not true. Firstly, if you were town you are not getting night killed. There is a reason that you have never been night killed, even when you claimed JK day one. Secondly, you are not getting night killed because you are not town. that was 100% flame. now you are just insulting my play | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:58 kushm4sta wrote: Why was that scummy? You say something that you know, since you've been watching me like a creeper, would piss me off, then you vote for me for responding to it. So why was my policy talk scummy? You didn't even mention that in your vote post. Here you go buddy On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: I have been told many times I have a "scummy meta." Not really fair since last game I did roll scum so I didn't really get a chance to show improvement in my town play. I'm working on it guys. Apologetic and excusing scummy play before the game has really begun. Intrinsic guilt and belief that you will come across as scum. Not a townie trait at all. On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: This is my 4th newbie game so I'm experienced as possible to play in this game. Also I think rolling scum last game will help my reads greatly. I know how those fuckers think. Needlessly aggressive and otherwise irrelevant. Hinting you are town which is something scum worry about doing but townies are less inclined to do. On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: Everyone say how you feel about lurker policy. I take kind of a middle of the ground stance. I mean if you have like 3 lurkers obviously you shouldn't waste 3 nights killing them off 1 by 1. If I think someone is scummy than I vote for that person. If I don't have any good scumreads then I will be in favor of lynching a lurker. Usually what seems to happen is town can't decide so they bandwagon on some lurker at the last second. I'm not against this since it keeps pressure on possible scum. I don't like people to say oh we are definitely lynching a lurker d1, because then scum feels safe as long as they are somewhat active. My willingness to lynch a lurker decreases as the game progresses. For example I think lynching a lurker d3 is really bad. Policy talk that says very little yet makes it seem like you want to contribute. Null tell at best but doesn't look great in the context of your post. On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: Message to scum: I can smell you. Once again. Hinting you are town in your first post. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 28 2012 10:02 kushm4sta wrote: that was 100% flame. now you are just insulting my play Not insulting or flaming. But that NK thing is scummy on it's own and even worse as it's part of your scum meta. | ||
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Omniscient4983
United States32 Posts
This is my first game on TL Mafia, but I've been doing some lurking and would really like to get into the thick of things. Between school, work, and other obligations, I believe this would be great fun (and possibly frustrating!) On Lurker Lynching Personally, anyone who is being too quiet has something to hide. This isn't to say we should just go berserk lynching everyone who isn't posting a specific quota, but those who don't wish to participate in discussion seem rather scummy. The less you say, the less chances of slipping and making the town realize your scum. If someone is lurking extensively, calling them out on it can't hurt... and if they continue, they are afraid for a reason. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 28 2012 10:08 DarthPunk wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 28 2012 09:58 kushm4sta wrote: Why was that scummy? You say something that you know, since you've been watching me like a creeper, would piss me off, then you vote for me for responding to it. So why was my policy talk scummy? You didn't even mention that in your vote post. Here you go buddy On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: I have been told many times I have a "scummy meta." Not really fair since last game I did roll scum so I didn't really get a chance to show improvement in my town play. I'm working on it guys. Apologetic and excusing scummy play before the game has really begun. Intrinsic guilt and belief that you will come across as scum. Not a townie trait at all. On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: This is my 4th newbie game so I'm experienced as possible to play in this game. Also I think rolling scum last game will help my reads greatly. I know how those fuckers think. Needlessly aggressive and otherwise irrelevant. Hinting you are town which is something scum worry about doing but townies are less inclined to do. On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: Everyone say how you feel about lurker policy. I take kind of a middle of the ground stance. I mean if you have like 3 lurkers obviously you shouldn't waste 3 nights killing them off 1 by 1. If I think someone is scummy than I vote for that person. If I don't have any good scumreads then I will be in favor of lynching a lurker. Usually what seems to happen is town can't decide so they bandwagon on some lurker at the last second. I'm not against this since it keeps pressure on possible scum. I don't like people to say oh we are definitely lynching a lurker d1, because then scum feels safe as long as they are somewhat active. My willingness to lynch a lurker decreases as the game progresses. For example I think lynching a lurker d3 is really bad. Policy talk that says very little yet makes it seem like you want to contribute. Null tell at best but doesn't look great in the context of your post. On September 28 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote: Message to scum: I can smell you. Once again. Hinting you are town in your first post. Thank you. now why you didn't do that at first I don't know. Instead you engaged in this flame war with me for really no reason. About my first post, yeah it was meant as mostly irrelevant. Just an introduction so people could get to know me. I prob should not bring this up but let me just say I have an unkilled undefeated streak atm. 3 games played and I have yet to die and yet to lose. Therefore, for perhaps selfish reasons, I have a strong will to self survival. I want people to know that I have a scummy meta so they don't lynch me for it. Apparently you were ready to lynch me in all 3 games even though I was town in 2 of them. I want to avoid that. On September 28 2012 10:09 DarthPunk wrote: There is a reason that you have never been night killed, even when you claimed JK day one. Secondly, you are not getting night killed because you are not town. So that wasn't an insult or a flame? You are saying I've never been nk because scum doesn't see me as a threat because I am bad. That's the real talk translation. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 28 2012 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: So is everyone just going to drop their welcome posts and then afk? Welcome to 90% of newbie games. You have to be nice or you scare them away. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 28 2012 10:37 kushm4sta wrote: Thank you. now why you didn't do that at first I don't know. Instead you engaged in this flame war with me for really no reason. About my first post, yeah it was meant as mostly irrelevant. Just an introduction so people could get to know me. I prob should not bring this up but let me just say I have an unkilled undefeated streak atm. 3 games played and I have yet to die and yet to lose. Therefore, for perhaps selfish reasons, I have a strong will to self survival. Self preservation is a mafia trait. If you are green, a night kill is the best you can hope for. It means you are pressuring scum and that they view you as a threat. It means you are playing well. I have followed all your games and while it is true that you are on an unkilled undefeated streak that means absolutely nothing. On September 28 2012 10:37 kushm4sta wrote: I want people to know that I have a scummy meta so they don't lynch me for it. Apparently you were ready to lynch me in all 3 games even though I was town in 2 of them. I want to avoid that. So you want people to know that if you play scummy that you aren't scum. Please. You said the exact same thing last game and you were scum. If you don't play want to get lynched. Don't play scummy. Making excuses for scummy play and hiding behind your meta is a major liability regardless of your alignment. On September 28 2012 10:37 kushm4sta wrote: So that wasn't an insult or a flame? You are saying I've never been nk because scum doesn't see me as a threat because I am bad. That's the real talk translation. Not an insult or a flame. Just a statement on how ridiculous you expecting to get night killed is. You claimed blue day one and still didn't die. Why would you ever expect to get night killed? The night kill post was scummy as hell. It implied (once again) that you were town. and that you had somehow baited my FoS on you intentionally. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 28 2012 08:34 DarthPunk wrote: Any more talk of policy will get you FoS'd. On September 28 2012 09:03 kushm4sta wrote: @Darth what are your thoughts on lurker policy? What is your opinion of policy lynches? What is your policy about policies? That's when I baited your fos. Your recent case against my defense basically says you think I play bad. Just because I don't fit your mold of how you want a townie to act does not mean I can't find scum. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
Hey guys. I'm debears. This is my second game ever of mafia. I have a couple of things to add: + Show Spoiler + You also clutter the thread if you just post alot. Let me specify. Post quality as often as you can. That means reread the thread and build good cases. One liners don't do much good. Cases with multiple quotes and a few sentences of explanation per quote are good (most of the time). Also, USE YOUR COACHES TOWN. Thrawn pmed Hapa over 50 times last game and he had the best town performance. That isn't a coincidence. @Kush I don't like the way you are starting off this game kush. It's eerily similar as last game when you were mafia. You mention you're deathless streak, nk, and your scummy meta without anyone bringing it up. You should know that I most likely know you're trends better than anyone else in this game. The only difference between this game and last is that you have engaged in a flame war with Darth this game, which is unhelpful to our town. FOS Kush @everyone One more thing: Feel free to accuse and build cases on anyone you want for the first 24 hours. However, let's start tunneling for the second 24 hours. Also, I would like everyone to start considering a lurker (in your head) once we hit the second 24 hours as a backup. If we get close to the lynch deadline, and there are no scummy candidates, feel free to post a good case on which lurker would be the best candidate. | ||
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