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On August 09 2012 17:44 snexwang wrote: This might come as a bit of a surprise to you, but your breasts are not a part of your face (weird, right?). They do not need to be in the shot when you are speaking to the camera. Here, I'll demonstrate exactly what I'm talking about.
A)+ Show Spoiler +
Brain: "Boobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobsboobs..."
B)+ Show Spoiler +
Brain: "A woman? Wait, this is strange... where are the boo- Oh, hey. She's speaking about SC. Cool. I will now evaluate her casting based on her abilities rather than her flourished appearance as if I were some kind of deprived perma-virgin."
I realise I'm being a tad sardonic here but I'm only trying to help.
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He actually has a point and you shouldn't take this as a personal attack on who you are,it's kinda like the video blog kennigit made on framing during interviews and such,look it up if you didn't see it. The thing is there is nothing wrong in having a censored version of yourself on camera while you cast because it actually makes people focus on it.For instance tasteless curses like a pirate in real life,yet he has a different way of speaking to the public on camera during casts. It's cool that you are comfortable with your sexuality but it overshadows the thing that you are actually trying to do,cast the game and it comes off as you wanting to market yourself more than you want to sell the game you are casting.
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The guys who are protecting her are probably watching her stuff because of she's a big crazy nerd and her insane gold level game understanding.
+ Show Spoiler +That sentence looks ridiculous isnt it, just google her name, it wont cause any harm, believe me
By the way, every guy likes boobs but at least you should be honest about what you are broadcasting, not some cheesy mantra like "I am a big nerd"
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The video was pretty good for a 1st time. I think being comfortable on camera helps.
For the next time, I would follow some of the positive advice from the experienced casters that have posted in here. Increasing your game knowledge to be able to explain why people are doing certain things, and telling little anecdotes about gaming is great fun in a cast.
gl hf
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On August 09 2012 15:35 ninazerg wrote: As a gamer who is a girl, I find this absolutely repugnant and offensive. I will not go easy on you, because you exemplify everything that makes guys roll their eyes at the phrase "girl gamer". First, you don't play StarCraft, which I consider a pretty important prerequisite for casting. Second, you look like a freaking Barbie doll. Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
1/5 stars.
Have to agree on some points here, while she does play Starcraft she's gold and really doesn't understand the game at all and is limited at just giving a play by playing of exactly what's going on rather than any strategy talk in the slightest. And mainly the cleavage lolol I just face palmed so hard when I saw that, you could try being somewhat professional if you actually wanna be anything close to serious when casting Starcraft = \. Aside from that you need a co-caster if you'd actually like to get into casting professionally preferably someone analytical to be precise since you lack the knowledge needed to be enjoyable to watch and seriously wear something a bit more professional again aka something that covers your chest if you'd actually like to be taken seriously as a legitmate caster rather than just pull people to your casting from being the opposite sex.
On August 09 2012 17:32 English wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 15:35 ninazerg wrote: As a gamer who is a girl, I find this absolutely repugnant and offensive. I will not go easy on you, because you exemplify everything that makes guys roll their eyes at the phrase "girl gamer". First, you don't play StarCraft, which I consider a pretty important prerequisite for casting. Second, you look like a freaking Barbie doll. Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
1/5 stars. You're also adding fuel to the flame by discouraging a girl from giving an honest shot at the esports scene. It's hard enough for girls isn't it? It really does sound like you're giving more weight into looks, something we should be distancing ourselves away from. I don't see anything wrong with trying and differentiating yourself from others, especially as saturated as it is (it's almost necessary to bring something new to the table). As long as the information is right and the mentality is open for improvement, then that's fine with me. I don't care much about if the passion or intentions are insincere as long as it doesn't do any harm, as those trying to fake passion and enthusiasm often disappear eventually. As for the video, the casting of course could use some work which just gets better with practice. I would probably suggest to stick to a more play-by-play casting role and eventually dual cast with an analytical caster. It would be a natural fit as you seem to have a higher capacity for enthusiasm, and usually the better analytical casters are really good at the game. Keep practicing though, especially with the camera movements and try to always be talking in solo casts (though remember correct information always outweighs amount of information). Good luck And she's not really adding fuel she's giving tips you have to look somewhat professional if you're going to look at casting seriously, I honestly wouldn't watch ANYONE cast regardless of gender if they didn't present themselves professionally while casting ect honestly it kind of just looked like a big joke.
Big difference between wanting to be taken seriously as a caster or just get viewers because you're a girl which is kinda of ridiuclous to start with.
Edit: All in all wasn't terrible to watching practice camera movements, wear something professional, get a analytical co caster and try actually learning more about the game itself. As it stands now people will only watch you because you're a female "gamer"
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On August 09 2012 16:18 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 15:35 ninazerg wrote: As a gamer who is a girl, I find this absolutely repugnant and offensive. I will not go easy on you, because you exemplify everything that makes guys roll their eyes at the phrase "girl gamer". First, you don't play StarCraft, which I consider a pretty important prerequisite for casting. Second, you look like a freaking Barbie doll. Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
1/5 stars. As a gamer who is a dude, I like boobs. Tara, Energy is very important to a good cast. You seem to lack it. A lot. Go watch a couple of Husky's casts. Seriously. He's one of the best in the world (maybe the best) at conveying excitement in his broadcasts. You ranted at the beginning about how much you love this stuff. Let it out in the cast. There's great weight, and great strength in silence... If used correctly. In your case, it just feels like a lot of down time. Best way to fix this is to improve on your knowledge of the game, so you've got more to talk about. This dead space is also a great time to fill with stories you have about interactions with different pros or people in e-sports you might know. Keep it up. People like you doing this kind of stuff is a great gateway for people who don't know Starcraft to get involved. I'll check back on practice cast #10 or so to see how far you've come.
You still have to make it your own. I hate giving examples of the good, the bad and the downright ugly.
One point I'd bring on home is the fact that the passion should be visible in the cast. It doesn't need to be said. Treat your viewers as if they're smart.
The only reason silence is golden is when you are co-casting with someone, a la rotterdam. It helps when you have good chemistry and know each other's strengths and weaknesses, but she's doing this on her own. In other words, you either have to know your shit or put your own twist on it. Give yourself your own goals on what you want to do with it other than, "I want to try it and get better." Narrow it down even more.
Making small talk is a lot easier when you have a co-caster. -_-
As for Nina.. that is how she looks regardless of the modeling spiel. Deal with it. You aren't going to change who she is.
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As for Nina.. that is how she looks regardless of the modeling spiel. Deal with it. You aren't going to change who she is.
Wasn't aware her putting on a different shirt would be changing the core fundamentals of who she is.
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Biggest change you could do in your casting is to hide or cover your cleavage. You don't need boobs to attract the attention of a male dominant gaming scene, you just have to be female.
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I don't get why you guys complain about boobs during a cast, that's like not wanting chocolate sprinkles on your icecream.
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On August 10 2012 05:20 Jasper- wrote:Show nested quote + As for Nina.. that is how she looks regardless of the modeling spiel. Deal with it. You aren't going to change who she is.
Wasn't aware her putting on a different shirt would be changing the core fundamentals of who she is.
Way to nitpick at one thing. If you read Nina's actual reply you would know what I was getting at, but no you rather be a smartass. Have fun.
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On August 10 2012 06:17 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 05:20 Jasper- wrote: As for Nina.. that is how she looks regardless of the modeling spiel. Deal with it. You aren't going to change who she is.
Wasn't aware her putting on a different shirt would be changing the core fundamentals of who she is. Way to nitpick at one thing. If you read Nina's actual reply you would know what I was getting at, but no you rather be a smartass. Have fun.
No, I put on my nice-shirt today, and it totally changed my perspective on everything! Tara Babcock 4 prez!
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Looks like I have to highlight it for you:Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
No. You don't like how she looks? Fine. Move along. You aren't going to get along with everybody. C'est la vie.
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In his defence, she DID ask for feedback.
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On August 10 2012 06:17 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 05:20 Jasper- wrote: As for Nina.. that is how she looks regardless of the modeling spiel. Deal with it. You aren't going to change who she is.
Wasn't aware her putting on a different shirt would be changing the core fundamentals of who she is. Way to nitpick at one thing. If you read Nina's actual reply you would know what I was getting at, but no you rather be a smartass. Have fun. Or if you scroll up you could see I talked about the whole post prior, she has some points and you can't just paint a wide stroke and say she doesn't, the cast wasn't as professional as it could have been like I said in my previous post. I don't see why so many people are white knighting here. If she wants to be taken seriously she could atleast dress it and focus on her casting rather than her gender..
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On August 10 2012 06:40 StarStruck wrote:Looks like I have to highlight it for you: Show nested quote +Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
No. You don't like how she looks? Fine. Move along. You aren't going to get along with everybody. C'est la vie.
No I just don't enjoy her just using her gender as a reason to be watched if she'd like to do that she can just post a stream of her playing random games she'll still pull a pretty big audience obviously, if she'd ACTUALLY like to be a caster she can be professional and present herself as one. People are always making threads crying for e-sports to become more professional for the main stream but THIS is ok because she's female? Perfect sense, she asked for criticism and that's it more than a few posters have agreed wear a different shirt looool.
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On August 10 2012 06:40 StarStruck wrote:Looks like I have to highlight it for you: Show nested quote +Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
No. You don't like how she looks? Fine. Move along. You aren't going to get along with everybody. C'est la vie.
When I see someone attempting to enter a casting gig, then I feel that they should take such a role seriously. You would not be sitting in a similar outfit behind the receptiondesk of a multi-million dollar company greeting important business leaders. Why? Because in such a case the company clothing etiquette asks you to be dressed formally.
I find it more than normal to require a public figure that's handling a job which involves people from all ages, to conform to this thing we call "professionality" and dress that way. As of now, her outfit screams for the fact that she's got big breasts, aswell as showing them both on stream, and with little research, on her adult-only website.
In the end, if you want to be a caster, stop looking like an adult model. If you want to look like a adult model don't go and be a public figure in a community with many younger children aswell. That's what bothers me.
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On August 10 2012 06:59 Aelonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 06:40 StarStruck wrote:Looks like I have to highlight it for you: Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
No. You don't like how she looks? Fine. Move along. You aren't going to get along with everybody. C'est la vie. When I see someone attempting to enter a casting gig, then I feel that they should take such a role seriously. You would not be sitting in a similar outfit behind the receptiondesk of a multi-million dollar company greeting important business leaders. Why? Because in such a case the company clothing etiquette asks you to be dressed formally. I find it more than normal to require a public figure that's handling a job which involves people from all ages, to conform to this thing we call "professionality" and dress that way. As of now, her outfit screams for the fact that she's got big breasts, aswell as showing them both on stream, and with little research, on her adult-only website. In the end, if you want to be a caster, stop looking like an adult model. If you want to look like a adult model don't go and be a public figure in a community with many younger children aswell. That's what bothers me.
The thing is the girl isn't looking for a casting gig? ._.
She's doing this from what she calls h-o-m-e. You guys are taking this way to seriously and she does work as a model/journalist from what I've seen and read, so come off your high horses already.
There is no weight at all to what you or Nina have said because this is how Tara is at home, out with friends and at work.
This is her. All she did was make a little video from her home. She's not trying to replace guys like Sean or Nick so really you don't need to tell her how to dress or how to do her hair or make up.
There are girls who like to wear a lot of makeup no matter where it is. Once again, it's who she is so relax a little. -_-
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StarStruck, you seem to miss the problem where she ASKED for feedback. We give it and now we're the villains? There's a lot of people constantly bashing the way that female community members at times profile themselves. Why would this be different. She wants to do something, great. She asks for feedback, we give it.
She doesn't have to like it, but you'll miss out on a LARGE group of people who actually do care about such things, like myself and Nina.
Edit: She does run as a model. However her website is 18+ only, which only strengthens my point.
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Feedback with regards to the casting. Not with regards to how she dresses regularly. That's the whole point I'm trying to bring home here. The way she presented herself was as herself.
I'm sure if she was casting the GSL or MLG she would have others giving her feedback and helping her with wardrobe as they did with Nick and Dan so your points are mute.
Nina is nitpicking at stupid stereotypes. Unfortunately this is how Tara normally looks which is silly. This is the norm for her.
You don't have to like the way she looks or presents herself in public. What Nina said wasn't constructive feedback. All she did was attack Tara as a person.
So the comments on how she looks is ridiculous.
Like I said, there's wardrobe for professional sets. Tara's not trying to be professional; she's trying to be herself and trying to cast a frigging game and it's obvious she still has a lot to learn when it comes to the game which comes down to her schedule and how much she actually wants to get into the game.
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On August 10 2012 07:14 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 06:59 Aelonius wrote:On August 10 2012 06:40 StarStruck wrote:Looks like I have to highlight it for you: Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.
No. You don't like how she looks? Fine. Move along. You aren't going to get along with everybody. C'est la vie. When I see someone attempting to enter a casting gig, then I feel that they should take such a role seriously. You would not be sitting in a similar outfit behind the receptiondesk of a multi-million dollar company greeting important business leaders. Why? Because in such a case the company clothing etiquette asks you to be dressed formally. I find it more than normal to require a public figure that's handling a job which involves people from all ages, to conform to this thing we call "professionality" and dress that way. As of now, her outfit screams for the fact that she's got big breasts, aswell as showing them both on stream, and with little research, on her adult-only website. In the end, if you want to be a caster, stop looking like an adult model. If you want to look like a adult model don't go and be a public figure in a community with many younger children aswell. That's what bothers me. The thing is the girl isn't looking for a casting gig? ._. She's doing this from what she calls h-o-m-e. You guys are taking this way to seriously and she does work as a model/journalist from what I've seen and read, so come off your high horses already. There is no weight at all to what you or Nina have said because this is how Tara is at home, out with friends and at work. This is her. All she did was make a little video from her home. She's not trying to replace guys like Sean or Nick so really you don't need to tell her how to dress or how to do her hair or make up. There are girls who like to wear a lot of makeup no matter where it is. Once again, it's who she is so relax a little. -_-
She's looking to improve and most likely look for a casting gig she does e-sports stuff already interviews ect, it wouldn't be a leap to say hey she may be looking to get into casting if she's posting on a professional gaming forum looking for CRITIQUE on her casting as it stands. And that's what more people than just me said wear a different shirt jesus lol, we are relaxed and giving tips to some girl that ASKED for them you're the one that seems to be pretty up in arms about us telling her to wear a different shirt to be professional.
Even my previous post said if she wasn't looking to be even somewhat professional or a community figure it doesn't matter how she dresses, but if she's looking to be and be a better caster and maybe cast an event some day she should I don't know where a different shirt?
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You don't have to like the way she looks or presents herself in public. What Nina said wasn't constructive feedback. All she did was attack Tara as a person. Where I come from, that isn't really feedback.
I wouldn't say talking about her distaste for her clothing while putting out a casting video is attacking her as a person lol... unless you're saying all she is is a low cut shirt make up and bleach blonde hair than that's definitely not attacking her as a person she's telling her to dress more professional when she's putting out videos ect interacting with the community so girls can be taken more seriously rather than just pulling crowds because of their gender.
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