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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
August 09 2012 10:21 GMT
#21
First of all, I think people who are famous out of SC2 scene can really help this game to progress. But your casting isnt good enough for MLG or similar event yet. If you watch, for example, day9, he yells at mic when some big fight is occurring, or some funky/cuttie move is done. You might want to invest more energy into this casting, showing that you have the passion for game. also a little faster clicking if there is multiple events on the map. But for first cast is good, and this is the only way you can improve it, by critique of watchers. DOnt be discouraged by some posts here, neither of casters were good at their first cast.
Khazroul
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
August 09 2012 10:22 GMT
#22
Grudgematch inc?


Keep up with the casting!
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
August 09 2012 10:28 GMT
#23
On August 09 2012 18:55 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 15:35 ninazerg wrote:
As a gamer who is a girl, I find this absolutely repugnant and offensive. I will not go easy on you, because you exemplify everything that makes guys roll their eyes at the phrase "girl gamer". First, you don't play StarCraft, which I consider a pretty important prerequisite for casting. Second, you look like a freaking Barbie doll. Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.

1/5 stars.


No offense, but I think its repugnant to judge someone almost entirely based on their looks. Maybe you should just respect her sense of style or just leave her alone if you have nothing nice to say. Also you should probably learn more about whether she plays starcraft before making claims that she doesn't. That would seem like an important prerequisite.


No one's judging anyone based on their looks. She's judging her inappropriately revealing and oversexed appearance as demeaning.

That's how the YouTube sidebar trolls dress.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 11:00:04
August 09 2012 10:56 GMT
#24
On August 09 2012 19:28 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 18:55 radscorpion9 wrote:
On August 09 2012 15:35 ninazerg wrote:
As a gamer who is a girl, I find this absolutely repugnant and offensive. I will not go easy on you, because you exemplify everything that makes guys roll their eyes at the phrase "girl gamer". First, you don't play StarCraft, which I consider a pretty important prerequisite for casting. Second, you look like a freaking Barbie doll. Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.

1/5 stars.


No offense, but I think its repugnant to judge someone almost entirely based on their looks. Maybe you should just respect her sense of style or just leave her alone if you have nothing nice to say. Also you should probably learn more about whether she plays starcraft before making claims that she doesn't. That would seem like an important prerequisite.


No one's judging anyone based on their looks. She's judging her inappropriately revealing and oversexed appearance as demeaning.

That's how the YouTube sidebar trolls dress.



Well she was commenting on her looks by talking about her lipstick and bleached hair which doesn't have much to do with being revealing or oversexed.

But secondly I'm pretty sure she isn't the first girl to show cleavage on the internet or otherwise...lots of girls do it, I would think we would be used to that by now (that is - its nothing extreme). What's wrong with dressing in an attractive way? How is that demeaning? I get the feeling people make the conclusion that girls who dress like this only have value because of their looks or oversexed appearance.

But its illogical; the only person demeaning anyone is the person making that judgement. Just because she dresses in an attractive way does not imply that is the only value girls can have, or that that is her most important value. It is simply *a* value, just like guys can be physically attractive and show it off with muscle shirts, but still be intelligent and affable casters. Why not? We're basically making assumptions about why she dresses that way, what her aim is, and then attacking her for it...but there is nothing solid to base any of these claims on.

I understand how people commonly view girls who dress like Tara does. I just wished TL would be the kind of community that doesn't attack people for it...that is, you can be sexy, you can look good, and no one will think you're demeaning women somehow.
iEatWoofers
Profile Joined August 2011
Switzerland108 Posts
August 09 2012 11:16 GMT
#25
Haven't seen it all yet and since I'm only a silver-level player I can't really comment on game knowledge... but what I can say is what I like in a caster.

The most important thing IMO is the way the information is presented... like in the beginning of the game. "Player X took an early expansion -> that means he won't be able to put on early pressure -> what can his opponent do / how does what the other player is doing correspond with what player X is doing? -> What will or should Player X's next step be?" It's quite the basic thing, but very important.

The second thing is small/filler talk. This is mostly important in the early game because mostly very little happens... I guess that's really the hardest part when your casting alone. I'm sure you'd have a lot of stories to tell though, so I don't think you'll have big problems

The third thing would be knowing the playstyle of as many players as possible. It'll help you cast because you can predict how the players will react to certain situations or what kind of strategies the players are going for.

I would also check into learning how to project you voice (I think that's what it's called).... Tasteless talked about it in his Real Talk episode. It might help you feel more secure while casting and you won't break your voice once/if you get good and can go to events! (Oh, and you'll probably learn how to sound more enthusiastic/excited)

Worst thing about the cast: You're terran
Best thing about the cast: Your laugh! (Though I bet haters will hate you for it... just don't listen to them)

I hope my feedback helps you in anyway (not so sure though)...
But I wish you the best of luck becoming a caster! GLHF
Kaeru
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Sweden552 Posts
August 09 2012 11:17 GMT
#26
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yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
August 09 2012 11:27 GMT
#27
On August 09 2012 19:56 radscorpion9 wrote:
Why not? We're basically making assumptions about why she dresses that way, what her aim is, and then attacking her for it...but there is nothing solid to base any of these claims on.


http://www.youtube.com/modeltarababcock
http://tarababcock.com/

I just wished TL would be the kind of community that doesn't attack people for it...that is, you can be sexy, you can look good, and no one will think you're demeaning women somehow.


I wish TL was a community that didn't buy into an obvious marketing ploy by a porn model. I mean really, google her name and check the top result. She's selling a brand.

Now, there's absolutely nothing wrong with selling sex. But she purports to be selling SC2 casting, and it's blatantly obvious that's not what's actually on the menu.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
August 09 2012 11:41 GMT
#28
This is exactly what is what gives women in SC2 community the bad name of attention seeking, wanting to sell themselves by the looks alone and the fact they are a hot female. I'm not going to say she can't be a good caster, if she persues the venture and genuinely learns her way around that, but I really think she needs to cut on selling her sex so much. Sure, it sells, but again, think of other women who work hard to try and bring something else, other than their sex(appeal), to the scene.

Wishing you a good luck, if you truly want to pursue the venture of a caster, though.
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
TaraBabcock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States391 Posts
August 09 2012 11:46 GMT
#29
Thanks for the help, guys! Of course I do not plan to stick with solo-casting, and I realize that it is much harder, and not something someone who is purely entertaining and not heavily analytically should do. The solo practice is good, though, because I do not feel like I need the practice interacting with another person fluidly (IMO perfecting that comes with working with them often anyway) so I might as well practice the hard way for the most part. Alone! I would love to cast with others and practice and stuff, though. I am always welcome to cast the local SC2 tournament here at Gameclucks where players like Kawaiirice and other GM/M serious players compete, and I am excited to dual cast there when I feel I will not bomb it.

As for my looks, I don't care what anyone thinks. I am not going to change myself away from the way I like to be just because someone may find me less offensive or take me "seriously". If I am not so damn good that the skill is dripping from my words and you cannot help but see my passion and "worth" as a person in eSports, I might as well not even do it! I'm also a glamour model full-time. This is what we look like. Get over it. Why would I change myself so it pleases others? That is just actually doing what you are accusing me of already: changing just so people like me, or accept me.

As far as other girls coming in and "pretending" to be gamers... well a tiny bit of digging on me in particular and you'll see that is moronic to even say in regards to me. I have been gaming my whole life. I've talked about it in interviews my whole career, covered eSports and gaming events, I write gaming articles, and I own so much gaming "paraphernalia" that any real gamer would be in heaven. I may be new to eSports, but my love for gaming, persistent throughout my life is no secret.

Other than that, I agree, I need to let the passion out more, I need to be more comfortable with getting excited and, above all, I need more knowledge or the game and have the backing of a higher personal ranking in order to look serious about the game and community. I plan to keep working on it! I know you guys will see improvement soon!

Thanks for the feedback!
Supermodel Nerd Stream! twitch.tv/tarababcock
TaraBabcock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States391 Posts
August 09 2012 11:54 GMT
#30
On August 09 2012 20:16 iEatWoofers wrote:
Haven't seen it all yet and since I'm only a silver-level player I can't really comment on game knowledge... but what I can say is what I like in a caster.

The most important thing IMO is the way the information is presented... like in the beginning of the game. "Player X took an early expansion -> that means he won't be able to put on early pressure -> what can his opponent do / how does what the other player is doing correspond with what player X is doing? -> What will or should Player X's next step be?" It's quite the basic thing, but very important.

The second thing is small/filler talk. This is mostly important in the early game because mostly very little happens... I guess that's really the hardest part when your casting alone. I'm sure you'd have a lot of stories to tell though, so I don't think you'll have big problems

The third thing would be knowing the playstyle of as many players as possible. It'll help you cast because you can predict how the players will react to certain situations or what kind of strategies the players are going for.

I would also check into learning how to project you voice (I think that's what it's called).... Tasteless talked about it in his Real Talk episode. It might help you feel more secure while casting and you won't break your voice once/if you get good and can go to events! (Oh, and you'll probably learn how to sound more enthusiastic/excited)

Worst thing about the cast: You're terran
Best thing about the cast: Your laugh! (Though I bet haters will hate you for it... just don't listen to them)

I hope my feedback helps you in anyway (not so sure though)...
But I wish you the best of luck becoming a caster! GLHF


Thanks! In regards to story-telling: I realize a lot of casters do this, talk about personal stories, but I did not want my first cast to involve too much non-StarCraft stuff, and I didn't have anything personal to say about either player. I should have said a bit more about Keen, that would have helped, and yeah, even more info on Stephano. Of course if this became my full-time I would be goofing non-stop and telling stories, but I am learning so I felt it did not belong and would look a bit irrelevant. I need to work on my talking in regards to StarCraft before I get the in-between gossip working!
Supermodel Nerd Stream! twitch.tv/tarababcock
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
August 09 2012 11:54 GMT
#31
On August 09 2012 20:46 TaraBabcock wrote:
I'm also a glamour model full-time.


You don't say? It's almost as if your casting is a way to promote your career as a "glamour model", what with the address to your paid site being plastered all over your youtube page, along with "glamour photos".

This is what we look like. Get over it.


That's what you wear to funerals? That's what you wear at the library?

No one is criticizing how you dress when doing your day job as a model, or in your private life. What we're criticizing is that you're purporting to be interested in casting SC2, when you're obviously selling a "glamour" brand and paysite.

If you're attempting to create a one-stop shop for SC2 casts and casual masturbation, more power to you, but don't get all huffy when women gamers everywhere roll their eyes something fierce.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
TaraBabcock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States391 Posts
August 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#32
On August 09 2012 19:21 Nawe wrote:
First of all, I think people who are famous out of SC2 scene can really help this game to progress. But your casting isnt good enough for MLG or similar event yet. If you watch, for example, day9, he yells at mic when some big fight is occurring, or some funky/cuttie move is done. You might want to invest more energy into this casting, showing that you have the passion for game. also a little faster clicking if there is multiple events on the map. But for first cast is good, and this is the only way you can improve it, by critique of watchers. DOnt be discouraged by some posts here, neither of casters were good at their first cast.


Thanks! You are right. I really sucked when it got heated. I feel that enthusiasm will be easy when I know WTF I am even screaming about. I was more worried about just trying to be accurate or informative. I'm super over-hyper usually, so adding that shouldn't be too hard! The little words of encouragement are nice, too.
Supermodel Nerd Stream! twitch.tv/tarababcock
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
August 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#33
Why do you have a dog with your name on it behind you being... doggystyled.. by another dog?
Ahh Scept-- hey where did you come from?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 11:59:39
August 09 2012 11:58 GMT
#34
On August 09 2012 16:18 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 15:35 ninazerg wrote:
As a gamer who is a girl, I find this absolutely repugnant and offensive. I will not go easy on you, because you exemplify everything that makes guys roll their eyes at the phrase "girl gamer". First, you don't play StarCraft, which I consider a pretty important prerequisite for casting. Second, you look like a freaking Barbie doll. Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.

1/5 stars.


As a gamer who is a dude, I like boobs.

Tara,

Energy is very important to a good cast. You seem to lack it. A lot. Go watch a couple of Husky's casts. Seriously. He's one of the best in the world (maybe the best) at conveying excitement in his broadcasts.

You ranted at the beginning about how much you love this stuff. Let it out in the cast.

There's great weight, and great strength in silence... If used correctly. In your case, it just feels like a lot of down time.

Best way to fix this is to improve on your knowledge of the game, so you've got more to talk about.

This dead space is also a great time to fill with stories you have about interactions with different pros or people in e-sports you might know.

Keep it up.

People like you doing this kind of stuff is a great gateway for people who don't know Starcraft to get involved. I'll check back on practice cast #10 or so to see how far you've come.


Mr Bitter, understanding what men want since..well forever! Haha <3 Bitter

Oh and of course, his caster feedback is great
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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 12:17:44
August 09 2012 12:01 GMT
#35
Everybody just chill out and tell her she needs to learn more about the game.

1. She will continue -> new casters are always welcome
2. This is some sort of marketing trick -> She will fade away , nobody has to care.

There is absolutely no need for flaming anybody.

..Sorry but the youtube thumbnail just makes it impossible for me to take it serious lol.
I TRIED
This is our town, scrub
TaraBabcock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States391 Posts
August 09 2012 12:01 GMT
#36
On August 09 2012 20:54 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:46 TaraBabcock wrote:
I'm also a glamour model full-time.


You don't say? It's almost as if your casting is a way to promote your career as a "glamour model", what with the address to your paid site being plastered all over your youtube page, along with "glamour photos".

Show nested quote +
This is what we look like. Get over it.


That's what you wear to funerals? That's what you wear at the library?

No one is criticizing how you dress when doing your day job as a model, or in your private life. What we're criticizing is that you're purporting to be interested in casting SC2, when you're obviously selling a "glamour" brand and paysite.

If you're attempting to create a one-stop shop for SC2 casts and casual masturbation, more power to you, but don't get all huffy when women gamers everywhere roll their eyes something fierce.


Think what you want. eSports may be primarily male, but it is a very, very small demographic of people compared to the amount I get from just taking modeling jobs and posting images. In my day job I market to every male in the world who is attracted to sexuality or my look. Why would I take time off of that for some niche market if it was not because I love it?

And the YouTube channel? It's my all-around channel. Lots of non-gaming stuff there...

I embrace sexuality and the way I look. I worked hard on it, and I don't give the slightest shit if you think whatever. I am just looking for feedback on the cast. Close your eyes through the other parts and imagine me as a man when I am casting, then post your thoughts.

No more of this drama based on my looks. It's off-topic and will be ignored from here on out.
Supermodel Nerd Stream! twitch.tv/tarababcock
TaraBabcock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States391 Posts
August 09 2012 12:28 GMT
#37
On August 09 2012 20:58 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 16:18 MrBitter wrote:
On August 09 2012 15:35 ninazerg wrote:
As a gamer who is a girl, I find this absolutely repugnant and offensive. I will not go easy on you, because you exemplify everything that makes guys roll their eyes at the phrase "girl gamer". First, you don't play StarCraft, which I consider a pretty important prerequisite for casting. Second, you look like a freaking Barbie doll. Too much lipstick, bleached hair, and your cleavage-showing makes me face-palm.

1/5 stars.


As a gamer who is a dude, I like boobs.

Tara,

Energy is very important to a good cast. You seem to lack it. A lot. Go watch a couple of Husky's casts. Seriously. He's one of the best in the world (maybe the best) at conveying excitement in his broadcasts.

You ranted at the beginning about how much you love this stuff. Let it out in the cast.

There's great weight, and great strength in silence... If used correctly. In your case, it just feels like a lot of down time.

Best way to fix this is to improve on your knowledge of the game, so you've got more to talk about.

This dead space is also a great time to fill with stories you have about interactions with different pros or people in e-sports you might know.

Keep it up.

People like you doing this kind of stuff is a great gateway for people who don't know Starcraft to get involved. I'll check back on practice cast #10 or so to see how far you've come.


Mr Bitter, understanding what men want since..well forever! Haha <3 Bitter

Oh and of course, his caster feedback is great


100% agreed! Thanks so much!

Grind, grind, grind! The challenge is finding the time, then focusing on studying the casters and improving upon my own gameplay.

Rest assured, there will be a #10! Thank you, Bitter. (and Pandemona, ofc!)
Supermodel Nerd Stream! twitch.tv/tarababcock
TaraBabcock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States391 Posts
August 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#38
On August 09 2012 21:01 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Everybody just chill out and tell her she needs to learn more about the game.

1. She will continue -> new casters are always welcome
2. This is some sort of marketing trick -> She will fade away , nobody has to care.

There is absolutely no need for flaming anybody.

..Sorry but the youtube thumbnail just makes it impossible for me to take it serious lol.
I TRIED


What!? You don't like me showing my grill!?
Supermodel Nerd Stream! twitch.tv/tarababcock
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 09 2012 12:53 GMT
#39
No actually I dont sorry
This is our town, scrub
Kickboxer
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Slovenia1308 Posts
August 09 2012 12:53 GMT
#40
Are those babies real?
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