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FOR CLARIFICATION A COMMON 1vs1 ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS IRC-GAME INVOLVING A BUS:
Player A is a mafia with 1 KP Player B is a town Busdriver. The Bus can choose to not bus, the mafia can choose wether he wants to shoot the townie or himself.
- If A shoots B and B is not using the bus B dies. --- Mafia win
- If A shoots B and B is using the bus A dies. --- Town win
- If A shoots A and B is not using the bus A dies. --- Town win
- If A shoots A and B is using the bus B dies. --- Mafia win
CLEAR HOW A BUSDRIVER WORKS?
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s&b was right
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No. Please answer the scenario I used. The problem for me is if there's actions on both sides of the bus route
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On July 04 2012 08:14 kingdedede wrote: Oh, hrmmm, I might be wrong about how this role works.
SCENARIO: Player A is shot by Capt. Falcon Player B is copied by Kirby
I drive from A to B. What is the outcome of the night actions?
SO IN THAT EXAMPLE THERE IS A PLAYER C WHO IS KIRBY EATING PLAYER B?
IF THAT'S THE CASE: PLAYER A GETS EATEN BY KIRBY PLAYER B GETS SHOT
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Okay, so it's a complete swap of targets. That changes how I need to use my role quite significantly. I need to think about it. Now I'm going to bed. G'night!
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EVER PLAYES YU-GI-OH? IT'S MAGICAL CYLNDER BUT WORKS BOTH WAYS
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On July 04 2012 07:46 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 07:45 HiroPro wrote: It's hilarious how people actually think iGrok is doing something. Agreed. His results shall come, just keep heading towards that light at the end of the tunnel! Wait... it's day 4 already? Where did all the other townies go? Lol. Every time I've mentioned waiting, its been for Day2. Nice try though.
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Do you not think HomerunBat is scum anymore, Risen?
- Hiro
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EBWOP:
You don't think HomerunBat is scum anymore, Risen?
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On July 04 2012 10:01 Mister Saturn wrote: EBWOP:
You don't think HomerunBat is scum anymore, Risen?
I don't actually have super strong scum reads on anyone. Not sure I could so early in the game. iGrok and homerunbat top my list followed by t and you. But if you shoot iGrok to death you'll be my favorite person in this game.
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A BUNCH OF STUFF GOT HOTFIXED DURING THE LAST 24 OR 48 HOURS. IF YOU CAN SPOT IT YOU'RE AWESOME.
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changes to DK and kirby that I can spot. Anything else?
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THE MOST NOTABLE IS PROBABLY:Voting rules: 1. Voting is done here. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. 5. We are using Extended Majority in this game. Majority is ( (number of players alive / 2) rounded down + 1)6. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses). 7. In the event of not reaching a majority a No-Lynch will occur.8. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. SHOULD BE CORRECT NOW ALTHOUGH I SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED MAKING IT INSTANT MAJORITY FOR THE IRC-FEEL ❤
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On July 04 2012 15:20 iGrok wrote: changes to DK and kirby that I can spot. Anything else?
PIKACHU YOU ARE PIKACHU! YOU CAN SPAM THUNDERJOLT! YOU ARE A DOUBLEVOTER! YOUR DOUBLEVOTE WILL NOT BE SHOWN IN VOTE-COUNTS. FOX YOU ARE FOX! YOU CAN DODGE EVERYTHING! YOU CAN HIDE AT NIGHT, MAKING YOURSELF ACTION-IMMUNE (THOUGH NOT KILL-IMMUNE)! YOU ARE ACTION-IMMUNE, NOT ITEM-IMMUNE BEAM SWORD: YOU CAN ACTION TWICE AT NIGHT. ONESHOT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A NIGHT ACTION YOU CAN CHOOSE WETHER YOU WANT A ONE-TIME +1 VOTINGPOWER OR A 0.5 KP ONE-TIME VIG-SHOT
THOSE ARE NEW AS WELL. ALSO THIS PLAYER STATUS OF AWESOME IS SOMEWHAT NEW. AT LEAST IT WASN'T THERE IN THE BEGINNING:
Player Status:
1) Igrok - (ROLE) - 2.5 Stock left 2) Cephiro - (ROLE) - 3.0 Stock left 3) Mister Saturn - (ROLE) - 2.0 Stock left 4) grush57 - (Cpt. Falcon) - 1.5 Stock left 5) talismania - (ROLE) - 3.0 Stock left 6) kingdedede - (ROLE) - 3.0 Stock left 7) HomerunBat - (ROLE) - 3.0 Stock left 8) Risen - (ROLE) - 3.0 Stock left
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I've been reading past games for like 5 hours, writing shit and deleting it. Pretty horrible night all things considered!
Tali- I did come up with some things that I value pretty highly, and one is some insight on Talismania. Acro had mentioned that in his past games with him, Talis came off as extremely town, and fast too.
Without knowing anything about his meta, I really thought it was odd how a large portion of his filter was posts about really random junk that pertained to the game, but didn't really help us with our wincon.
Reading Bastard Mafia 2 has me strongly leaning scum. Go have a look. click me!
He is bold, fearless. He puts on the town leader hat right from his first post. He calls people out, pursues reads aggressively. Compare that to how he plays here. Extremely passive.
Acro, I know you were thinking this earlier. Do you still feel the same way? Tali, what's the deal man? Who is scum? Why aren't you pursuing them? The way you are spending your time right now looks way scummy.
Mr. Saturn- He is at 2 stock following the iGrok thing, and is still actively calling for any vig types to hit iGrok tonight knowing he will eat the same damage. I see no scum motivation for doing this. I read it as is he is town, and doesn't give a shit about dying if it kills his scum-read in the process.
iGrok- Both Shiao and I think he is scum. The reasoning is outlined by Shiao in one of our previous posts. Please go look.
I think Saturn is right in that iGrok has done nothing to help town. The day 1 carry at the time he did it was also odd. I really can't wait to hear the Saturn reasoning, because from what I see, at the time Saturn was carried there just wasn't much to go on. If I was in his shoes, I'd have been more cautious about potentially hurting a town Samus, which wasn't unlikely considering the weakness of all the reads at that point.
There is going to need to be a rockstar/come-to-jebus/eureka type post from iGrok on day 2 for me to not want to lynch/lava push him.
-s0L
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Some more mechanics questions: if Kirby eats a Samus, when can Kirby shoot?
We were asked to send in stage and item actions at night. I would like to know what the stage will be to do that.
Going down the list it would be Cephiro's turn to plan item/stage positions for us. As before, I want to hear his plan and his reasoning for it before I go along with it (if the stage is planet zebes, all he has to come up with is item positions of course).
@HRB: Tali reacted really really townie to the threat of lynching. It could be a scum tactic to push the lynch off at the last second (and it worked), but it just read really townie to me. That's the main reason I am no longer fully onboard the Tali is scum train. I will post more reads tomorrow. For now I will contemplate who to drive between. Wit the swap, instead of just a misdirect it got a lot trickier to pick targets.
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On July 04 2012 16:56 HomerunBat wrote:I've been reading past games for like 5 hours, writing shit and deleting it. Pretty horrible night all things considered! Tali- I did come up with some things that I value pretty highly, and one is some insight on Talismania. Acro had mentioned that in his past games with him, Talis came off as extremely town, and fast too. Without knowing anything about his meta, I really thought it was odd how a large portion of his filter was posts about really random junk that pertained to the game, but didn't really help us with our wincon. Reading Bastard Mafia 2 has me strongly leaning scum. Go have a look. click me!He is bold, fearless. He puts on the town leader hat right from his first post. He calls people out, pursues reads aggressively. Compare that to how he plays here. Extremely passive. Acro, I know you were thinking this earlier. Do you still feel the same way? Tali, what's the deal man? Who is scum? Why aren't you pursuing them? The way you are spending your time right now looks way scummy. -s0L
Someone using meta and I actually don't hate it!!!
No, but in seriousness, talismania is scum. I played with him when he was scum (Pick Your Poison) and when he was town (Bastard 2) and the talismania in this game is really not doing anything.
In this game, talismania has spent almost all of his time doing two useless things: speculating about the way the game has been balanced and creating an useless spreadsheet.
The first one is pointless simply because no one has actually flipped. talismania knows better than to waste his time thinking about that stuff without the important info that you need.
It should be fairly obvious why the second thing is useless; it's essentially like just tallying the votes in the thread. It's a summary of what has already happened; it doesn't require any personal analysis or thinking.
I think Acro mentioned earlier that he found tali's reaction to being in the lead to be lynched townie. This is not really a good way to think. Not only are reactions one of the easiest things to fake if you have some experience (it's the actions and reads/cases that matter), but in a game like this where a lynch doesn't even kill a person, it's essentially meaningless. Not to mention the fact I'm not even sure what Acro really thinks a scummy reaction to being lynched would be (beyond the stupid stuff that newbie scum do).
- Hiro
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On July 04 2012 17:33 Acrofales wrote:
Some more mechanics questions: if Kirby eats a Samus, when can Kirby shoot?
We were asked to send in stage and item actions at night. I would like to know what the stage will be to do that.
Going down the list it would be Cephiro's turn to plan item/stage positions for us. As before, I want to hear his plan and his reasoning for it before I go along with it (if the stage is planet zebes, all he has to come up with is item positions of course).
@HRB: Tali reacted really really townie to the threat of lynching. It could be a scum tactic to push the lynch off at the last second (and it worked), but it just read really townie to me. That's the main reason I am no longer fully onboard the Tali is scum train. I will post more reads tomorrow. For now I will contemplate who to drive between. Wit the swap, instead of just a misdirect it got a lot trickier to pick targets. If a Kirby ends up eating Samus he will have to charge up as well, resulting in him being able to shoot n3 because n1 was used to eat, n2 was eat to charge and n3 can be used to shoot (or later if he chooses too)
About the second question, does this answer your question? + Show Spoiler [click me!] +
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