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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
BH tried to shoot, was jailed, and mafia tried to kill him, because he was playing more conservatively, which may have been a sign of him having a blue role. Hyaach, scum, claims to be roleblocked as a way to show that it's less likely BH is telling the truth. ##Vote Hyaach Drawing a diagram really helps. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I still have a problem with the claim though - could you take a look at the posts I made regarding his stance on Pandain's claim and tell me what you think MrZ? There are any number of scenarios that COULD have happened last night sir, we can't just pick one that's possible and say "I think this is it". Do you have any reason to believe that BH is telling the truth other than "Meh this seems plausible" | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
One of those things happened, or he's lying. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
Town jailkeeper JK'd Hyaach Blazinghand lied about the shot, as Furerkip was supposed to be modkilled for failing to post during the night. [/tinfoilhat] | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
DISREGARD THAT. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
BH got roleblock. and mafia shot a SK. Or I was roleblocked BH is mafia and was roleblocked Or I was roleblocked BH is lying about roleblock. or I was roleblocked. BH was roleblocked Mafia held shot. There's only these scenarios. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
##Vote: Blazinghand | ||
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Shraft
Sweden701 Posts
Then there's also the strangeness about BH not going after Pandain that hard, only voting after VE had already placed his vote, although I think that can be explained by BH wanting to have more to go on when he finally voted (i.e. he wanted to avoid counter-claiming and decided to prod Pandain for a bit more to get something else to base his vote on). | ||
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Shraft
Sweden701 Posts
On June 09 2012 05:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This shit is confusing the fuck out of me and I don't have enough time to read things through thoroughly at this time. My initial read on Hyaach was that his early comments were too dumb to be mafia. His RB claim after BH claimed to be RBed also feels like it's not something a mafia would do. Either he's playing dumb, or he's telling the truth. I wasn't planning on killing BH today but with no day kills it feels like someone has to be lying. The thing with BH not instantly bussing Pandain after his claim doesn't work in his favor either. My gut says Blazinghand, and that's where my vote goes. ##Vote: Blazinghand Well, as already pointed out, if the roleblocked Mafia didn't claim the roleblock it would be apparent to the RB that his target is scum. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341663¤tpage=9#177 On June 06 2012 11:19 Blazinghand wrote: there's like no way that's a legit claim Because as soon as I made it, I realized I'd soft-claimed Vigi. This is a huge mistake. I needed to backpedal. If I immediately pushed Pandain it'd be clear to scum that I was the real Vigi and I'd get RBed + Shot N1. On June 06 2012 11:23 Blazinghand wrote: Alright, if we believe Pandain's claim, then why don't we follow up with my course of action: We lynch MrZ (or maybe Navi if he seems scummier). If MrZ flips town, sure, shoot me. But I think he's gonna flip scum. "Oh Blazinghand what's with this point" At this point, I still thought MrZ was scum. I figured we could just lynch him, and I'd shoot Pandain, with my bullet, overnight. I knew Pandain was scum because he couldn't also be a vigi. When a vigi fake-claims, as a real vigi it's pretty standard to just shoot him to prove you're the real vigi, this was my initial plan until I got some support for the Pandain lynch. Like, you're all wondering why I stepped a bit lightly around Pandain. The reason is: you'd do the same if you're a vigi confronting a fake-vigi-claiming scum. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On June 08 2012 22:02 ghost_403 wrote: I don't buy Blazinghand's claim. Compare and contrast the Blazinghand from this game with the blazinghand from TL Mafia LIV. In LIV, he actually was a vigilante, and he was the aggressive protown blazinghand I've seen in most of his games. His first post in that game is voting someone for a scumslip. This is completely different from his play here. That modkill happened in TLM LIII. Last I checked, LIII < LIV. Are you kidding me? You're misleading the town. I wasn't a Vigilante in that game, I was a Mad Hatter. I was TRYING to draw mafia attention. Getting shot was my #1 goal, and I carried it out. I didn't care if I was RBed, and I *wanted* to be shot. That's like the opposite of what you try to do N1 as a vigi (though I guess getting shot is ok)-- you need to avoid getting RBed or claiming vigi. Like, wow, way to misrepresent me. In fact, I can't imagine you somehow "mixed up" Mad Hatter and Vigi or failed to understand the consequences of the FUNDAMENTAL difference between a role that WANTS to die and a role that needs to dodge RB. You're clearly scum trying to get on my wagon with "original research" so you look legit. Explain yourself. ##unvote ##vote: Ghost_403 Or die. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
OP On April 22 2012 03:21 Kurumi wrote: + Show Spoiler + Player list 1. Nova_Terra BLU Depressed Soldier lynched Day 4 2. froggynoddy 3. Beneather BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Day 1 4. ghost_403 BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Night 2 5. papapanda 6. Sinensis 7. johnnywup BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Night 2 8. PaqMan 9. Kenpachi RED Rocket Jumper Soldier modkilled Night 2 10. Mementoss BLU Depressed Soldier dead Night 3 11. Bill Murray BLU Depressed Soldier lynched Day 1 12. Blazinghand BLU Sniper dead Night 4 + Show Spoiler + 13. Palmar Killed Night 1 BLU Depressed Soldier 14. sinani206 RED Rocket Jumper Soldier modkilled Day 1 15. slOosh Killed Night 1 BLU Depressed Soldier 16. marvellosity 17. Eiii BLU Depressed Soldier dead Night 5 18. DoYouHas BLU Depressed Soldier killed Night 2 19. Katina RED Rocket Jumper Soldier modkilled Day 1 20. Zealos BLU Depressed Soldier modkilled Day 1 21. BlackRaven (Drazerk and Hassybaby hydra) Killed Night 1 BLU Depressed Soldier 22. blubbdavid BLU Depressed Soldier dead Day 2 lynch 23. l10f BLU Depressed Soldier lynched Day 5 24. grush57 25. SomethingAwesome BLU Depressed Soldier killed Night 2(Dirkzor and Mattchew hydra) 26. layabout BLU Depressed Soldier dead Day 3 lynch BLU Mercenaries left 4/21 RED Mercenaries left 2/5 KP is 1. KP is rounded up. OP On April 22 2012 03:20 Kurumi wrote: + Show Spoiler + RED Scout Role Cop Wearing the Killer Exclusive together with his Lugermorph and Licence to Main Scout looks like a real undercover cop! Wait, that's true! The thing is, he isn't the good cop. He is the bad cop. No, not like in this weird-strategy of interrogation! He is literally BAD cop. He gets to know role of one of the players every night. RED Rocket Jumper Soldier Goon I am flying high, MAGGOT! I am really stressed nowadays, because I am dating this hot American patriot girl from Louisiana from Monroe. How do I deal with it? JUMPING OF COURSE. Jumping without pain though! This tool usually sucks, but I found an use for it! I shall be proclaimed the best psychotherapist soon! No powers. RED Pyro 0.5KP Vigilante -The Engineer still doesn't know how to translate what Pyro's saying, besides "SPY!", so You know... Can't quote anything good.- Might deal 0.5KP damage to player of choice. One owns the KP, not the entire team. RED Demoman Mad Hatter I LEFT SCRUMPY FOR THIS MATCH, SO BRING IT ON, DOUBLE EYED MONSTERS! Plants bomb during the night. Might move it OR detonate it every night. Has one bomb which counts as 1KP. It detonates after he dies. RED Heavy Godfather Politician I am leader of the team! I am best now! No one can stop Heavy-RED Team! Mighty RED will rule baby BLU to the ground! Did You know, that my father was fighting against the Communist Revolution? DT checks come back as "BLU", has a hidden vote. RED Engineer Role Picker Get lost or I will get You done Texan Style. Has three powers to choose from. Can only choose one(for the entire game). They are: Framer (makes player show up as RED to DT checks.), Doctor, Roleblocker. RED Medic Doctor Heavy is ze leader, I am ze backup leader now! A-haha! I am healing my comrades when they need it, never letting them down! I make sure that they are zalive! Can choose to protect one person from 1 KP. No one knows about successful protect. RED Sniper Day Vigilante Snipin's fine job mate. Especially when You're in the better team. Professionals have standards. Might shoot someone during the day by typing ##Kill Playername. Has only one bullet. RED Spy Roleblocker Everything's going to be done in a single cycle, believe me. Can prevent someone's action from going through. People without roles are not notified of a roleblock. Builders League United BLU Scout Alignment Detective I am trying to prove that I am not only agility, there's a lot of intelligence people miss out when thinking about me! This is time to prove that I am intelligent, handsome, agile and precise mercenary! Can check player's alignment every night. They come back as "BLU" or "RED". BLU Depressed Soldier Vanilla Town Lucy doesn't love me anymore... She is with that stupid copy of me from REDs. I want him dead. I want THEM dead. I hate them. As usual, has no powers besides his vote. BLU Pyro Tracker -BLU Pyro nowadays was hiding from people, but that's because he was learning the art of tracking. After his hard training he's confident in his abilities.- Can check who player visits every night. BLU Demoman Mad Hatter I can drink and help at the same time! That's amazing mate! It's aaaaaaaaall about stickybombs today! Has two bombs he might place, move or detonate every night. When he dies, his bombs blow up. They count as 1KP. BLU Heavy Veteran I take care of BLU baby men and get hit so they live! I am real hero! Has two night lives. It takes two hits, or 4x0.5KP to take him down. BLU Engineer Role Picker No secrets revealed partner! Has three power to choose from. Might choose only one for the entire game. They are: Refill ammo and life/Doctor/Night Vigilante with 1 bullet. BLU Medic Doctor I've practiced medicine long enough to be sure I can save my dear BLU team mates. Nothing can go wrong when I am on the battlefield! Might protect one person every night. No one is notified about a successful protect. BLU Sniper Night Vigilante This unprofessional bastard from REDs thinks he is the best! He is not a true Australian mate, You need to know that! I've never seen him piss in a jar! Might shoot someone during the night. Has one bullet which counts for 1KP. + Show Spoiler + BLU Spy Day Vigilante ... Might backstab someone during the day by typing ##Kill playername. His Spy-cicle breaks after that. Q&A Is every role guaranteed to be in the game? No. Am I notified about getting hit with 0.5KP? Yes. Can BLU Spy get his Spy-cicle refilled by Engineer if he chooses to be ammo/life refiller? Yes. Can RED get their powers refilled? Yes. What happens if Roleblocker uses his action on a BLU Engineer during N1? Engineer is notified about the RB, but the role he picked goes through. I got burnt by the Pyro! Or did I? If You ever get hit by Pyro, You'll be notified about it. I AM LEADER OF THE TEAM, CAN I DIRECT MY ENTIRE TEAM? Well, no. Every role submits it own action. You can't decide who someone else will do. Example Role PMs: You are rolename! You need to wincondition! You are! Random Kurumi blabbering with engrish. You need to wincondition! Sup I am lazy fuck there's Your role guess what You need to wincon and yeah no colours because that's how I roll Hey listen I am the real PM! Nope. AKA I send pms the way I please. They might be all same. They might be coloured. They might be with italics. They might be with videos. With pictures. With bolded text. Whatever I feel like at the moment. I might even put AMERICA somewhere. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
##unvote Ghost_403 ## vote Hyaach | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
So are you still feeling a MrZ lynch sir? | ||
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