Fantazy looks pretty good, but I fear that the ramp is too far from the nat. It looks impossible to wall ramp to nexus, and you can't wall at the nat choke because the ramp is outside of it. Feels too wide to wall anywhere else. Mineral lines are also kinda weird, but otherwise it looks quite nice.

Semmo

Korea (South)627 Posts

May 13 2012 18:02 GMT

#46

Map name: Abandoned Junkyard
Map Author: Ksw
Map playable bounds: 161x124
Map Overview:

Gfire

United States1699 Posts

May 13 2012 18:47 GMT

#47

Map Name: Golden Valley
Map Author: Gfire
Map Overview:

Playable Map Bounds: 152*152

Nightmarjoo

United States3359 Posts

May 13 2012 20:58 GMT

#48

lol the authors of the top3 of last month are judging (and thus can't enter maps). What could go wrong here?

On May 09 2012 00:52 moskonia wrote:
I wonder, can 2v2 maps get in? and if do will it have a chance of winning vs normal 1v1 maps?

I can't speak for the other judges, but I would love to see some good 2v2 maps submitted.

Aunvilgod

2653 Posts

May 13 2012 21:20 GMT

#49

On May 14 2012 05:58 Nightmarjoo wrote:
lol the authors of the top3 of last month are judging (and thus can't enter maps). What could go wrong here?

Show nested quote +

I can't speak for the other judges, but I would love to see some good 2v2 maps submitted.

Thats the problem, nobody knows how good 2v2 maps look like.

MarcusRife

343 Posts

May 13 2012 21:41 GMT

#50

Map name: Aiur Refuge
Map Author: Rife
Map playable bounds: 168x168
TL Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333094
Map Overview:
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Nightmarjoo

United States3359 Posts

May 13 2012 22:08 GMT

#51

On May 14 2012 06:20 Aunvilgod wrote:

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Thats the problem, nobody knows how good 2v2 maps look like.

Bullshit. A well-made map is a well-made map. Start there and you're already better than the entire ladder team mappool.

Gfire

United States1699 Posts

May 13 2012 22:41 GMT

#52

I would enter a 2v2 map if 1v1 maps weren't a higher priority. I think to get some 2v2 entries you really need to make it so entering a 2v2 map doesn't subtract from the number of 1v1 maps you can make (there is a separate limit on each.) Otherwise most everyone will just enter 1v1 maps.

Nightmarjoo

United States3359 Posts

May 13 2012 22:47 GMT

#53

Map limit is to encourage higher quality maps, how does submitting a 2v2 map change that? The fewer maps you're submitting the more likely they are to be of good quality. And since 2v2 maps are rare a mediocre 2v2 map might have a better chance of getting notice than a mediocre 1v1 map. Trust me, the competition between mediocre 1v1 maps is very fierce by this point.

This is a monthly competition, there's no need to be churning out maps just for it. The repetition of the competition means you should just work on whatever you have ideas for, and submit them when they're perfected.

Gfire

United States1699 Posts

May 13 2012 23:04 GMT

#54

Ah, I didn't think of it quite that way. Good point. You wouldn't want to encourage lower quality maps because they worked too much on a second one (probably the 2v2 one,) as well. If it happens every month, a mapper should still have months where they might not have any 1v1 maps ready, and can submit a 2v2 one, right? I'd imagine it's frequent enough for that. Although you are allowed to submit a map you've submitted before, right? So would players re-submit a map before entering a 2v2 map? Maybe?

I mostly thought about it during the TLMC, when they only got like 1 2v2 map because it counted towards your map limit. Having a separate limit for team maps would have worked better there because it was the only one and you could use any maps you had made up to that point, it wasn't a monthly thing and I think most people submitted three 1v1 maps.

But I suppose the main reason for a lack of 2v2 entries is actually just a lack of 2v2 maps being made in general (and/or it being a 1v1 map competition where people have discouraged the entry of 2v2 maps or said they would be judged as 1v1 maps.)

SiskosGoatee

Albania1482 Posts

May 13 2012 23:04 GMT

#55

I wouldn't mind an offshoot small 2v2 MotM as a side thing honestly. Don't make it as big because of course less people are interested but people really need to get inspired to make some decent 2v2 maps at this point as 2v2 is honestly fun were it not for the Steppes-of-War-esque mappool we have to endure.

Nightmarjoo

United States3359 Posts

May 14 2012 00:00 GMT

#56

With how few 2v2 maps are being made there's no need for a separate competition. There could be something like 10 submissions total to a separate competition and all 10 could be bad. No point in highlighting the best bad map.

fenX

France127 Posts

May 14 2012 11:51 GMT

#57

On May 14 2012 01:41 Gfire wrote:
Fantazy looks pretty good, but I fear that the ramp is too far from the nat. It looks impossible to wall ramp to nexus, and you can't wall at the nat choke because the ramp is outside of it. Feels too wide to wall anywhere else.

I agree that the natural entrance was too wide, I've made some adjustments so now you can full wall with 3 big buildings.
I'll have to send an updated version before the deadline.

lefix

Germany1082 Posts

May 14 2012 12:35 GMT

#58

I agree there is probably no need for a seperate 2v2 map competition, considering how few are made. But there is actually quite a demand for 2v2 maps. I get asked about 2v2 maps by other organizations every once in a while. I'd say it is definitely something worth working on

eTcetRa

Australia822 Posts

May 14 2012 12:45 GMT

#59

Map Name: oZz Vaha
Map Author: eTcetRa
Map Overview:

Playable Map Bounds: 156x156

Time to throw my crap into the lot

Samcai

Belgium58 Posts

May 14 2012 16:54 GMT

#60

Here's my first submission then

Good luck to everyone !

Map Name: Jungle Drum
Map Author: Samcai
Playable Bound: 140 x 132
Map thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335362#1
Map Overview: