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On May 22 2012 07:26 Gfire wrote: Well, maybe the polls should be posted in like general forum or something to get a better public opinion. I like this idea, along with multiple rounds of voting, to go along with the segment idea. This might actually be a good way to give more attention to MotM in general, if only to the rest of the TL community. That idea actually gets me somewhat excited.
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On May 22 2012 07:26 Gfire wrote: Well, maybe the polls should be posted in like general forum or something to get a better public opinion. I support this idea.
Also, a little nitpicky, but could we get direct links to the maps actual thread (where available) instead of just the submission post? Analyzer output, etc. could be useful in deciding these things.
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Of course, I wouldn't walk tournament organizers coming and picking up bad maps with a lot of votes, if the public polls got a lot of attention.
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okay, I'll modify this, maybe repost the polls in sc2 general, give me a couple of minutes.
what do you guys think is better: 4 polls with a top 12 poll (3 finalists from each segment) (less chance for randomness due to groupings of maps) or 5 polls with a top 5 or 10 poll (1 or 2 finalists from each segment) (more exciting finalist poll with less maps) something else?
edit: maybe another poll for best visuals?
edit: I'll go with 4 polls with 12 finalists I think.
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about map threads, the version of the map that people vote for should be the one that was submitted to MOTM imo, the version in the map threads may change. most people provide links to the map thread in their post.
edit 3: the new poll is below, I'm going to double check it, then repost it on the sc2 general forum
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I assume map makers can vote, even though most will vote themselves anyways so it gets even at the end. Will be interesting to see if the community has the same opinion as the judges
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Public polls are a really bad idea for a number of reasons. First of all most people don't know shit about maps and then people who made maps in here may take the results serious and rage.
On the other hand people always rage when MotM results are out anyway...
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After looking at all the maps, I would like to share my opinion about a single map that caught my eye, that map is cracked cell, which is one of the (if not the) best maps in this month, layout wise.
While I think the texturing are a bit lacking, and actually at the start it looked to me really bad, only after I looked at the base layout that the map looked like a winner to me, if it is not top 3 I will be very surprised as after some better texturing I think it is a tournament material map.
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On May 22 2012 08:33 Ragoo wrote: Public polls are a really bad idea for a number of reasons. First of all most people don't know shit about maps and then people who made maps in here may take the results serious and rage.
On the other hand people always rage when MotM results are out anyway... I doubt people will get uppity about the poll. Mostly people will just be happy if they got votes from the community. Since the poll setup requires only one vote per section, people have to compare the maps in each section. I voted for my favorites, but there are tons of other maps I like, or think have a lot of potential.
Also, our votes don't change anything. The judges choices and their feedback will be most helpful to the map-makers.
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On May 20 2012 12:22 monitor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 11:15 Namrufus wrote: While I don't like that ESV is no longer participating in MOTM (forever?), I understand that there is little incentive for them to enter new maps (and possibly a liability if they lose with a map they rushed out just for the motm deadline, (which additionally may be determined by a number of factors outside of their control, such as the makeup of the judging panel and the quality of other maps submitted)). Oh, we will submit as soon as there is a prize/tournament. And btw, I also organize motm We're working on some incentives.
You know what an awesome prize for motm would be? A MOTM Map of the Day(or week or two days, or whatever) map published on BNet, similar to ESV's, the top 5 maps (if the participants want) would be entered into the motd for the following month, while the 1st place winner could be entered into the motd map pool permenantly.
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If it didn't work for ESV, it won't work for MotM. ESV had a small prize incentive, and they still couldn't get more than a couple hours on Battle.net's popularity system.
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Wouldn't hurt to try though right? it seems like a cool idea and it might be more popular since the maps change every month.
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I just take another look to every maps and mine (Jungle Drum) really lack easthetics... and I can't see what it is... maybe the textures mix ? If someone can tell...
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On May 22 2012 18:57 Samcai wrote: I just take another look to every maps and mine (Jungle Drum) really lack easthetics... and I can't see what it is... maybe the textures mix ? If someone can tell...
I think that your map in particular looks as though you took each flat area and slapped a random texture on it.
The rest are okay.
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On May 22 2012 08:29 moskonia wrote:I assume map makers can vote, even though most will vote themselves anyways so it gets even at the end. Will be interesting to see if the community has the same opinion as the judges
The poll should have asked for the prettiest map actually because people can´t judge anything else.
But we can treat the poll as if that was the case anyway.
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On May 22 2012 18:57 Samcai wrote: I just take another look to every maps and mine (Jungle Drum) really lack easthetics... and I can't see what it is... maybe the textures mix ? If someone can tell...
Koagel explains texture blending far better than I could:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309265 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6773343
also, your cliff lines look too straight and square to look natural.
take a look at blizzard's early ladder maps (and the later LEs) and the campaign maps in the editor to get a good idea of what an 'archetypical' map from each tileset looks like. You may also get some ideas from the 'map art' thread here on TL.
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On May 22 2012 22:35 Mr. PotatoHead wrote: yay motm :D
:p
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