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On May 13 2012 18:51 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 11:18 PaqMan wrote:
Hot damn that's nice. My FoS on Eiii stands, I really want him to contribute more of his thoughts on NT and I10f. But I feel confident in lynching NT. man this whole situation kind of sucks. It's impossible for me to tell if NT is just playing really really badly (suggesting lynching for information when it's been EXPLICITLY mentioned in this game that that's a horrible idea) on purpose to try to solidify his newb town claim or if he actually just has no clue what he's doing. wifom wifom wifom. weird black-and-white statements like this Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 21:02 Nova_Terra wrote:
If you take a look through Layabouts and Eiii's filters, you will notice that there is a lot of suspicions of Eiii throughout. Eiiis filter comes across to me as defensively oriented, and he has been under suspicion all game. as l10f is going hard on him now, it makes sense to me that if one of them is scum the other is almost certainly innocent, and if one of them is town the other is probably scum.
Also now is not the time to be mislynching me, maybe that was day 2, but not now. that would screw us over are pretty retarded too, but it's the same deal there. obviously I feel l10f is pretty scummy at this point, since he's been attacking me for actions I've done that I can't really see as scummy. Between his overnight shift into pushing me as #1 scum as hard as possible, providing arbitrary lists and calling them 100% objective, then manipulating those lists to try to get people to accept them... I dunno, it feels like he's trying to disrupt and take control of town as much as possible which is pretty sketchy when we're so close to lylo. My late-night snap decision on the subject is that we really, really can't let plays like N_T's stand. If we still had vigs then he should outright be shot instead of lynched, but it looks like we're out of those. voting for NT.
This defense is funny
I dont see why you would disagree with voting either yourself or l10f if you were town, as my statement was pretty much correct
then you say that l10f is scummy for finding you scummy, insert omgus here
then you vote on my bandwagon
this post alone should be enough to lynch you
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
NT if your really a townie, do what layabout did. Die with hobor. Make cases abd reads with your last moments alive-- if nothing else at least help us in your final moments.
Or just keep whining like the scum you are.
Your call brometheus
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
By hobor i mean honor. Posting via phone so there you have it
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I thought there was a chance of lynching papa yesterday
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Deal, i think Eiii is scum
L10f town
Blazing town
Marv way aggressive, dunno if thats his normal town meta or not but it irritates me
papa scum
paq leaning town
sinensis leaning scum due to no really helpful contribution to the game other than agressive tunnel
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I dont understand grush 1little bit, i cant see how it could be advantageous to play either town or scum like that >.>
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Furthermore i would like to apologise for my lack of contribution in this game, so much shit has happened in the last 2 weeks, exams, iphone breakage, english essay which im frantically trying to finish now,so much came up and i feel really bad about not being able tobe here, i'll make it up during my next game, promise
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
More imporyant than reads are cases. Ad someone noted "appeal to autbority" is not valid. Try to post case and reasoning. Supplement and link/quote existing cases
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Looking back through PaqMan's filter, i am much much less sure of him leaning town. If you imagine (blazinghand that is) that i was town, and read through his filter, it comes off very strange. not much content actually, lots of pressure, Bandwagoning and switching, etc. If you guys would take a look through, i would be much obliged. even if you continued to lynch me today.
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On May 14 2012 04:45 Blazinghand wrote:
More imporyant than reads are cases. Ad someone noted "appeal to autbority" is not valid. Try to post case and reasoning. Supplement and link/quote existing cases
on an ipad im trying with tge 30 mins that i have
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I think you still have 70 minutes
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On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself! Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.
##unvote Katina NEVERMIND, they're onto me! ##vote: grush57 I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.
sinensis makes this post as a reason to vote someone and leaves it there the entire day
On May 05 2012 14:14 Sinensis wrote:My suspicious is off grush for now because of D1. I want to talk now about layabout and why I think he's suspicious. Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad. On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out) On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen. On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party. Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia. On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum. ##unvote
##vote: Katinacome at me bro Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA. Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing. On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.
I assume we still have 24h+ for voting? Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too). Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet. Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D) For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry. I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?) Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done. I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable! BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy. Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote. Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop. If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray! Both of which of from the very beginning of the game You spend a lot of time defending Katina, you also say the only way she is suspicious is "the way in which she puts attention on BM." You defend her again here: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence. I do not think we should lynch katina. Do other people think that this is BS? On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.
(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)
##Vote Layabout
//Dirk You also ask what other people think of SomethingAwesome's "BS." I think SomethingAwesome might have been onto something honestly. The first thing you said in the entire game was that you were AGAINST policy lynches and that "they are no better this game than they ever were before" Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:04 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just want to warn all of the "area 53" guys that policy lynching is no better an option in this game than it ever was before. I know that a few of you are currently feeling like we should place all lurkers and confusing posters into the fire. But the majority of those players will be town and lynching into them is likely to kill (admittedly useless) townies.
We are going to be polite in this game.
We are going to vote at appropriate times.
We are going to act in town's interest's using methods that are simple and explainable.
And we are going to destroy red.
You then completely disregard your own advice not to policy lynch (below) and vote Bill Murry, who Katina was supposedly suspicious for bringing attention to. Also, if you're not even going to follow the advice you posted not to policy lynch... what was the point in posting that in the first place other than to look like you were contributing when you really weren't? Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 07:35 layabout wrote:
BH you are just bitter because you blew your own leg off after you tried to rocket jump with the wrong boots on.
I think killing something awesome could be a good move. If we still have no candidates when i get up then i think we should just lynch BM. So you think killing SomethingAwesome could be a good move, presumably because you think he's scum. But instead of building a case around SomethingAwesome, you decide to vote BM based on meta. Show nested quote +since we still have no real candidate
##vote Bill Murray
reasons:
anti-town when town
anti-town when scum
lurks a lot
when he is active he is disruptive Who are you to decide if there "is no real candidate?" There were plenty of people with plenty of reads at the time. You even repeat this: Then you repeat it again: Show nested quote +Look how few votes the candidate have
Look how weak the cases are
Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote
See how unlikely we are to hit mafia
Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray Last thing, there is no such thing as an anti-town town member. If someone is town, just by being alive they are helping town. Killing an "anti-town" town member is still killing a town member. Killing town players because they "aren't useful anyway" or "are anti town" is scum logic.
Then grush is innocent because of day 1 play (pffffft) and it moves on to townie layabout
On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
-D
goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment.
Then wonderful, a null read, so were up to his only read being layabout as his early "#2 suspicion papapanda" seems completely forgotten and unpressured
On May 07 2012 05:35 Sinensis wrote:
People were quick to agree that layabout was scum, but they are even quicker to agree that Nova_Terra is scum... probably because Nova_Terra is an easy target with his "I don't have time to make posts that aren't scummy" attitude.
I am still probably going to vote layabout today but at the rate things are going, I wouldn't mind hitting Nova_Terra if consolidation needs to happen. Papapanda is a lesser priority right now, but people should still have eyes on him.
Read is as i'll probably bandwagon on the ez layabout train but if not im willing to join the other train which is even easier
lolwut
On May 07 2012 10:32 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 05:55 PaqMan wrote:On May 07 2012 05:44 Sinensis wrote:
PacMan why do you keep asking me for my reads I have already posted them. Go read my filter instead of quoting yourself over and over again. I did read your filter and your only FoS so far is on layabout. And please explain this: On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:Cool, lets's go Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.
##Vote: Palmar Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing moreOn May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond. This is wrong - D How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong? If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...
##Vote: layabout
-D
goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment. Can you not read? I'll read it for you. It means I don't like basing decisions on information outside of the game... but that having played with mattchew/D before lots of confrontational 1 liners seems normal for town play. I go on to say that I am null on him and that there are other priorities to consider first.
sinensis ignores the main part about how he didnt really have any reads other than layabout even after he said he had posted plenty of reads, then makes an agressive soundng post on the other part to cover it up
On May 07 2012 17:49 Sinensis wrote:
I'm going to flip a coin. Heads is layabout, tails is NT:
.
..
...
Looks like it's Nova_Terra
##vote: Nova_Terra
Then comes this gem where he makes up an easy way to flip to me, who he had no read on, instead of his only real read to get an easy lynch
On May 08 2012 12:44 Sinensis wrote:
If either layabout, NT, or ghost isn't dead by morning I will be disappointed.
dafuq did this come from
On May 10 2012 05:46 Sinensis wrote:
N_T your "analysis" post makes me feel like we are playing a different game. No one is going to vote papapanda today...
If you're scum why didn't you deflect attention onto an easier target like layabout? Is layabout your scum buddy? Why didn't you deflect attention onto layabout anyway, do you think he's town?
If you are town and you have been suspecting papapanda for a while now, why didn't you say something about it before everyone was on your back asking for contribution? You could have at least mentioned you were suspicious of him and that would have counted for a small contribution.
after a post a little while before where he says hes only voting layabout he decides to tell me that my case is invalid because its definitely going to layabout, scummy limiting movement
On May 10 2012 12:08 Sinensis wrote:
Layabout keeps making compelling defenses... I am suddenly hesitant to keep my vote him. Especially since N_T is in the game; who hasn't made compelling posts to say the least and who hasn't put forth nearly as much effort.
The more I think about it though, nothing N_T does benefits scum... or town... or himself, so I am struggling here too. Do I choose the guy who talks nicer (layabout) or the guy who helps the enemy less (N_T)?
Oh woe is me! my main read is good ad defending and now i need to choose between two awful bandwagons! .... what
On May 11 2012 12:22 Sinensis wrote:Sorry about that layabout. I would like to talk before night ends about some people I think are getting a free ride, that don't deserve it. I am anticipating focus being on grush and N_T, but there are two others that need some looking at. First I will look at papapanda: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:15 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +My guess is that grush is semi-lurker and just have been reading/agreeing/sheeping with what information that has/hasnot been posted by you. At first I would've have passed off the blue/green slip from blubbdavid as misreading because I can imagine myself accidentally misreading/mis-pronouncing blue/green. But from his defensive post i have to be a little suspicious. On May 03 2012 07:55 blubbdavid wrote:
One post on D1 doesn't make someone scum. Even if I probably deserve a warning for my stupidity.
Will defend myself tomorrow, it's late here. And if it is even worth it.
And when you vote, please use the proper thread. It is reasonable to vote for blubb if no one else comes out with major slip-ups, and the town has to lynch someone. Otherwise I would sit back and wait for N1 or D2 when more information might be available. Me is hardcore BLU! Went ahead and bolded everything I have a problem with. This is his first post in the whole thread. What is see is a paranoid mess. Papapanda uses a slash every time he says something serious because he wants to make sure he has covered all his bases/been as nonspecific as possible/has chosen the best sounding/most town-like voice possible/see why this is convoluted and a horrible way to express yourself? Your scum team probably told you to cut it out with all the wishy-washy slashes after your first post, and you appear to have listened as this is the only time you talk like that. Also, never while playing town seriously would I ever say I am "hardcore town." You don't need an adjective to describe how town you are unless you aren't town. He was neither, and this question accomplishes nothing. Makes apologetic face. Apologizes. Apologizes again. Claims to be noob. Scummy. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 12:39 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:
##vote: grush57
I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people. You better not unvote or else people will think you are just sheeping Blazinghand!I am going to ##vote blubbdavid as a placeholder for now in case I miss the voting deadline tomorrow. Goodnight. After I vote for grush, papapanda decides to call me out... or something... saying I am suspicious of sheeping Blazinghand if I change my vote? Uh, whether I am sheeping Blazinghand or not (I wasn't), what does changing my vote have to do with anything? Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:23 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Blazinghand:
I hate to be stepping into your line of fire, but I didn't find NT's post to be as bad as you make it sound like it is. Actually, I found that many of the points he made was very similar to the ones I tried to make.
I agree with you on "too dumb to be scum" is not an argument at all but I also do not believe grush to be scum, even though he isn't helping much (blubbdavid, I said this in my previous post but this is basically all my thought on grush as of now).
In fact, I share NT's suspicion of sinensis, and I assure you this is not just OMGUS. My original comment was just to get him to further explain his vote because he actually didn't say anything before his second response. I was shocked at what I believe to be an over-defensive reaction, one that might be coming from having something to hide, from sin. Given, he did provide sufficient evidence of reasoning, but he's accusation of me can hardly be called a read(from yourself, blazinghand).
I am still undecided on a vote. I have some gut feelings about a few persons but no evidence to base that off of.
Yeah, I probably wouldn't like stepping into BH's line of fire as scum too.
Lets look at the BM lynch, you didn't support it: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:01 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 05:56 grush57 wrote:
We only have an hour left, I have a feeling BM might be modkilled and so will several others, most days end at around 9pm est not 6. Since he will be modkilled anyway, shouldn't we lynch someone else? This question is for everyone voting BM You're against it again: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:05 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 05:57 johnnywup wrote:
don't rely on modkills, thats not chivalrous lol. if we want to lynch someone we lynch them, we don't leave it up to chance that they don't post and vote last minute. They would also have to post here to not get modkilled. You want us to use a vote on someone who has less than an hour to post based on his previous reputation. Actually, I am dissatisfied with people that are in more than one game, especially in XIII (and not even some minimafia...etc). Another option is to lynch you, johnnywup, and save you from having to play both games. Against it again: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:08 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
If BM haven't posted, we can assume he hasn't been on the thread.
Now you might say maybe he planned to post last second...
If BM hasn't been on this thread, he would not have known that the voting/posting deadline has been extended by 60 minutes. Therefore he did not intentionally wait until now.
Starting to see a pattern? You're against lynching BM again: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:09 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 06:06 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:00 Mementoss wrote:
I expected to come back to people actually voting, and people posting why they are good votes. I come back to 10 people still haven't voted with an hour left, and everyone in the thread just posted one liners about names out of a hat who to vote, without any reasoning at all. This is like a Hey look at me, im active and useful and shame on you all for doing wrong! I apologize for saying I want to lynch you for being in two games. What I meant to say is I want to lynch you for trying to waste D1 vote on someone who will die anyways. But wait, what now? Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:12 papapanda wrote:
You're right, I'm wrong again><
Ok, I will be open to lynching BM-_- Apologizes, apologetic face, suddenly BM is a good lynch? Once BM flipped town, you explained for vote for him... but not the sudden switch: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 13:06 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, mafia is going to hit SlOosh real hard, as he is 2/2, calling out both sinani and katina. I believe the lynching of BM was orchestrated by the red. The plan for red might have been to target veterans who are slightly inactive. As we can see, Katina passively pushed for lynching of BM.On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. Keeping this is mind, I would like to bring up marvellosity. 1. His first few post was to bring Palmer into attention. No, he didn't vote for him, but just bringing him up and possibly started a bandwagon is good enough. 2. He gives his read on NT, saying he "looks the scummiest" but then votes for BM(yes, I voted BM too, I will explain my change of heart if it isn't clear enough-_-), claiming same reason as layabout. His willingness to switch sides so fast is a little scummy. 3. He defends Katina by basically saying she has odd posting style. By association, this also is a little suspicious and him adding on saying that DoYouHas nailed it actually made it sound even worst for me. I would like to conclude by saying that this was pieced together AFTER I assumed he was red. I would like to ask others to help me analyse marvellosity from the point of view of blue. Basically: FoS on marvellosity HERE IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING; so you believe mafia lynched BM because they had a plan for lynching veterans who are slightly inactive, i.e. easy targets? I know I saw something like this in the thread the day before, let me see if I can find it again: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 22:31 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 21:46 blubbdavid wrote:
papapanda, unable to even graps that he has a bit more time than just one day, ready to sacrifice me although there are better options like grush.
Till now, I have have defended myself better than grush, but papanda is willing to forgive grush for his action because he could be a semi-lurker. Like SA pointed out, reading minds for others, especially at such an early stage of the game is scummy.
##vote grush57 *Looks hard to find blubbdavid's defense* On May 03 2012 08:11 blubbdavid wrote:
The confusing thing is that in a sense vanilla townies are also blue roles, just without power. I wanted to ask Ken whether he had a powerrole or not.
A 1.2 line defense? Only a little better than grush. Some of us are obviously more seasoned than others. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I play with you before in my first game? The way I see it is when we have two suspicious guys, I would lynch the more experienced person because there is less possibility that his mistakes are due to the fact that he was careless or ignorant. So the way you see it is that when there are two suspicious guys, lynch the veteran (i.e. Bill Murray)? That doesn't make any sense to me especially since you are a new player here and have no way of knowing who the vets are, not to mention it is not town-like to vote someone just because they are more experienced. I have never heard a town player say "We should lynch HIM because he has MORE experience!"
Wait so it went from my case being invalid because of 2 main suspects already to 2 main suspects already but sheeping novas case is good and papa is scum?
and then theres the Im voting untul Nova is dead oh wait maybe i vote papa next move that was already looked at
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BH sorry i need to finish my essay T_T thats why i said 30 mins, still have to sleep
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Oh and sinensis ignored anything about Eiii the whole game
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Blazinghand
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Dt/track: target someone who will be alive tomorrow, who scum wont shoot. Either od them could be sending in the NKs so track dont assume a "no visit" means innocence.
Doctor: they wont want to shoot me until were close to lylo. Consider saving someone else since tmr isnt lylo
If you think ur gonna die and we wont find ur crumbs claim just before daybreak. Dont claim now though.
Any other thoughts on blue actions? Tmr we are one day from mylo
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Also doc sonce uve definitely not saved anyone DO NOT claim to.ight.
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Sinensis:
I am not too sure what you mean by "textbook mafia," but I'll let give part1 to you.
However, the other parts I will try again,
Part3: Oh, its not ok for grush to just ##vote name, so I'll just do the exact same thing!
Part4: I think you mistook the bulk of my post here. I made an error so I was against voting BM -> I was corrected and agreed BM looked scummy -> I voted BM, he ended up being town.
Part5: The point I was trying to make is by using N_T's own lynch-logic, N_T himself can be a great candidate.
Marvellosity:
Using information from the alignment-flip after death should only be used when the flip is red IMO. When layabout flipped green, we know that layabout does not actually HAVE information. But using Kenpachi, we know he HAS information because he is red, so obviously his suspicions can have extra meaning behind it.
When Sinensis said because layabout says so, it sounded scummy to me as layabout had no facts; Sinensis was just trying to abuse the fact that layabout is town.
My thoughts on l10f:
l10f lacks strong explanation for the people who he calls out. Looking at his list he doesn't make explanations either. He claims he is bad at scumhunting, but is good at weighing in factors made by other people(He called correctly on N_T). This allowed him to excuse himself from actively scum-hunt and avoid making mistake if he is scum.
You mentioned his inconsistency, but it looks like he really wants to lynch Eiii. His reason for calling you out is from various times when you defended people who flipped scum, and I am not sure what to make on that.
A reason I am sitting at my computer with a raised eyebrow right now is stuff like this:
On May 14 2012 03:02 l10f wrote:
Looks like N_T is gonna get lynched. I'm gonna look so bad if he flips red lol
Sounds like he knew he was flipping blue.
I'll keep an eye open for him(like sinensis), but I think Grush is my vote for the next day.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 14 2012 07:22 papapanda wrote:Sinensis: I am not too sure what you mean by "textbook mafia," but I'll let give part1 to you. However, the other parts I will try again, Part3: Oh, its not ok for grush to just ##vote name, so I'll just do the exact same thing! Part4: I think you mistook the bulk of my post here. I made an error so I was against voting BM -> I was corrected and agreed BM looked scummy -> I voted BM, he ended up being town. Part5: The point I was trying to make is by using N_T's own lynch-logic, N_T himself can be a great candidate. Marvellosity: Using information from the alignment-flip after death should only be used when the flip is red IMO. When layabout flipped green, we know that layabout does not actually HAVE information. But using Kenpachi, we know he HAS information because he is red, so obviously his suspicions can have extra meaning behind it. When Sinensis said because layabout says so, it sounded scummy to me as layabout had no facts; Sinensis was just trying to abuse the fact that layabout is town. My thoughts on l10f: l10f lacks strong explanation for the people who he calls out. Looking at his list he doesn't make explanations either. He claims he is bad at scumhunting, but is good at weighing in factors made by other people(He called correctly on N_T). This allowed him to excuse himself from actively scum-hunt and avoid making mistake if he is scum. You mentioned his inconsistency, but it looks like he really wants to lynch Eiii. His reason for calling you out is from various times when you defended people who flipped scum, and I am not sure what to make on that. A reason I am sitting at my computer with a raised eyebrow right now is stuff like this: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 03:02 l10f wrote:
Looks like N_T is gonna get lynched. I'm gonna look so bad if he flips red lol
Sounds like he knew he was flipping blue. I'll keep an eye open for him(like sinensis), but I think Grush is my vote for the next day.
Nah, that was a genuine worry, I would have been responsible for town mislynching me if I ended up being completely wrong. Now I feel even stronger about my reads, and Eiii has been left alone way too long. If you're not satisfied with my short yet condemning posts on Eiii so far, tell me what part you think is wrong about my thought process that Eiii is scum.
Also, just putting it out there.
People I've accused: layabout, Eiii, grush, marvellosity
People I've defended: layabout, blubbdavid, Nova_Terra
People marv accused: BM, l10f, layabout, Nova_Terra, johnnywup, grush
People marv defended: Sinensis, blubbdavid, Katina, Kenpachi
I think everyone feels safer going with my intuition over his ^___^
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