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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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papapanda
Taiwan326 Posts
On May 13 2012 12:05 Sinensis wrote: I'm probably voting Papapanda tomorrow. I already have a case posted on him. That plus his most recent post where he wants to lynch for information is plenty enough for a conviction in my mind. Mmk I will try to respond to your case. Part I: Regarding my first post Yes, I was putting /s to try to cover all loopholes of misunderstanding. Afterwards I realized that no one gives a crap about that so I stopped. By the way it was SomethingAwesome who said it looks scummy/wishywashy. Ok, no adjectives before my "I am blu!" claim next time, gotcha.(please refer to the part where I said this line doesn't mean anything when SA brought it up) Part II: Regarding exchange with SA His was nitpicking at my use of smilies (much like you are now...) and his typo made it appear like he was being contradictory. I didn't catch the typo, but after being pointed out I apologized. It's true that I wouldn't have called him scum even if he did make that mistake but I was obviously unhappy with what he was picking at from my post... Part III: Regarding exchange with Sinensis I called you out because you didn't give a reason for voting for grush. AND I believe the reason for your vote is because HE didn't give a reason for voting Katina. Changing your vote (without giving a reason) would have been following exactly in grush's footsteps. I was giving you a fair warning to state your reason for your vote. I will ignore the next quote because it is a very grush-like thing to say... Part IV a: Regarding vote for Bill Murray It is obvious that you were not following the thread or else you would've taken that filter as out of context as you did. I was against wasting vote on someone will would've been modkilled anyways. I was under the impression BM wouldn't have known that the day have been extended by 1 hour, therefore nullifying all argument made by JW about scum waiting for last second to vote. I was reminded that BM posted that he knew + he posted in other mafia games. I agreed that it was suspicious to be on the other mafia game but not here, so I voted him. Part IV b: Regarding reasoning behind vote for BM(lynching because of his experience) No, I'm obviously not as experienced as you, but I did follow a few games and read the award thread(lol); I can tell the expienced players from the less experienced. I realize how my reasoning may be flawed now, but let me explain my thought process then in an example of a game of 50(basketball). Player A is better than you by a lot, and player B is better than you by a little. Somehow, you got your "ice" and have a chance to knock out 1 of them, won't you chose to try to knock out player A because if you knock him out you have a better chance of winning? Mafia is not the same 50, but I hope I have made myself clear enough. Part V: Regarding information On May 13 2012 07:12 papapanda wrote: Regarding information in quotations, I was referring to this post: The point I was trying to get across was that using his [own] logic, lynching N_T would have been just as viable. -My Turn- On May 11 2012 13:01 Sinensis wrote: l10f is suspicious too to me but it's more subtle than papapanda. Plus it was layabout's dying wish that some kind of investigation be had of l10f... I just can't think of anything solid right now. Your analysis of I10f is ridiculous. What action can there be except for ones posts? It's great you are trying to post your FOSs, but don't put the bolded line in above quote in. It just seem to be as a scummy excuse to start the ball rolling for the lynch another towny. (You don't see this marvellosity?) | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
part 1: There is a reason people call out people who are being wishy-washy. It isn't some sophisticated code of honor in the mafia forums. The reason for avoiding being wishy-washy with posts is because it is text book mafia behavior. part 2: Your explanation was that you were wrong because you were wrong... I don't know how else to discredit your explanation better than you already have. part 3: Sorry I thought I was playing with people who were logical enough to see problems with someone who just types "##vote: <screen_name>" and expects that to be okay. part 4: Your entire justification is wrong. You were against voting Bill Murray one minute, then you voted him literally 10 IRL minutes later. No excuse. part 5: HOW DOES LYNCHING SOMEONE TO GAIN INFORMATION MAKE SENSE IF YOU ARE TOWN? Answer that and let me embarrass you. My analysis of l10f isn't ridiculous. If you weren't so hell bent on appearing like mafia I would have room to focus on l10f. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On May 13 2012 11:18 PaqMan wrote: Hot damn that's nice. My FoS on Eiii stands, I really want him to contribute more of his thoughts on NT and I10f. But I feel confident in lynching NT. man this whole situation kind of sucks. It's impossible for me to tell if NT is just playing really really badly (suggesting lynching for information when it's been EXPLICITLY mentioned in this game that that's a horrible idea) on purpose to try to solidify his newb town claim or if he actually just has no clue what he's doing. wifom wifom wifom. weird black-and-white statements like this On May 12 2012 21:02 Nova_Terra wrote: If you take a look through Layabouts and Eiii's filters, you will notice that there is a lot of suspicions of Eiii throughout. Eiiis filter comes across to me as defensively oriented, and he has been under suspicion all game. as l10f is going hard on him now, it makes sense to me that if one of them is scum the other is almost certainly innocent, and if one of them is town the other is probably scum. Also now is not the time to be mislynching me, maybe that was day 2, but not now. that would screw us over are pretty retarded too, but it's the same deal there. obviously I feel l10f is pretty scummy at this point, since he's been attacking me for actions I've done that I can't really see as scummy. Between his overnight shift into pushing me as #1 scum as hard as possible, providing arbitrary lists and calling them 100% objective, then manipulating those lists to try to get people to accept them... I dunno, it feels like he's trying to disrupt and take control of town as much as possible which is pretty sketchy when we're so close to lylo. My late-night snap decision on the subject is that we really, really can't let plays like N_T's stand. If we still had vigs then he should outright be shot instead of lynched, but it looks like we're out of those. voting for NT. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 13 2012 14:00 papapanda wrote: It just seem to be as a scummy excuse to start the ball rolling for the lynch another towny. (You don't see this marvellosity?) I'm not sure what is so bad about someone looking into a dead townie's suspicions. And while Sinensis' look at l10f was brief, looking at the use of language isn't a bad way to analyse someone's posts. Question back to you, papapanda: did you actually read what I wrote on l10f last page? And Mementoss' case? And do you agree or not, and why for both cases? Sinensis: I don't know how you go from On May 12 2012 12:13 Sinensis wrote: I am sick of seeing scummy, zero effort posts like this from N_T. His posting has been a huge issue in the thread ever since day 1. I am putting l10f and papapanda on the back burner until N_T is dead. -I am going to vote N_T until he is dead- (I WILL BOLD IT SINCE NO ONE LISTENS TO ME NORMALLY) ##vote: Nove_Terra If you flip town I don't know what I believe anymore. On May 12 2012 12:14 Sinensis wrote: EBWOP: The only way I am not voting for N_T is if there is a jester in this game I don't know about. to On May 13 2012 12:05 Sinensis wrote: I'm probably voting Papapanda tomorrow. I already have a case posted on him. That plus his most recent post where he wants to lynch for information is plenty enough for a conviction in my mind. What's up with this? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On May 13 2012 20:33 marvellosity wrote: I'm not sure what is so bad about someone looking into a dead townie's suspicions. And while Sinensis' look at l10f was brief, looking at the use of language isn't a bad way to analyse someone's posts. Question back to you, papapanda: did you actually read what I wrote on l10f last page? And Mementoss' case? And do you agree or not, and why for both cases? Sinensis: I don't know how you go from to What's up with this? I am voting for N_T because of his garbage filter and because he wants to lynch for information. Papapanda just said he wants to lynch for information and agreed with N_T, the guy I want to lynch, that lynching for information makes sense. You don't have a problem with Blazinghand seemingly agreeing with me? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
While you're here, what do you think of the cases on l10f? | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 14 2012 00:23 grush57 wrote: Get on the l10f train On May 14 2012 00:24 grush57 wrote: ##vote: Nova_Terra Am I missing something here?! | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
If both he and NT are town I will literally eat zelblade's hat | ||
l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 13 2012 18:51 Eiii wrote: obviously I feel l10f is pretty scummy at this point, since he's been attacking me for actions I've done that I can't really see as scummy. You're a funny man. Between his overnight shift into pushing me as #1 scum as hard as possible, providing arbitrary lists and calling them 100% objective, then manipulating those lists to try to get people to accept them... I dunno, it feels like he's trying to disrupt and take control of town as much as possible which is pretty sketchy when we're so close to lylo. I thought I would stop talking about that since everyone says its a horrible idea, but I'd rather have town take control in a lylo than a scum. | ||
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
See you guys at night, time to study my ass off. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
On May 13 2012 20:33 marvellosity wrote: I'm not sure what is so bad about someone looking into a dead townie's suspicions. And while Sinensis' look at l10f was brief, looking at the use of language isn't a bad way to analyse someone's posts. I called N_T out on this also. Rather than say 'layabout says he's scummy, therefore he is scummy' its better to say 'This point: XXX raised by layabout is convincing because of Y with relation to Z'. Otherwise you get appeal from authority which is not a valid statement. People have been seriously lazy in their scumhunting, BH on N_T as well as laya's (and my cases) on Grush being the exceptions IMHO. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
i find it interesting that you should say that i should have | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 14 2012 04:27 Nova_Terra wrote: Marv theres not a chance in hell i would push for a papa lynch today because its obviously not happening i find it interesting that you should say that i should have ? You didn't even try, you didn't even mention him. And you were quite happy to be the only person voting for him yesterday... | ||
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