EPTGoliaths Imba?
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Q~Bert
United States658 Posts
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lawl mart
United States1289 Posts
and i think carriers are still > goliaths with range as long as you abuse the terrain and micro them good enough. have you ever tried to fight anything without goliath range? it fucking sucks without it TT | ||
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
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akamufu
Korea (South)321 Posts
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lawl mart
United States1289 Posts
and vanilla is original Starcraft, without the Brood War. | ||
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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Q~Bert
United States658 Posts
On September 30 2006 20:58 lawl mart wrote: Smurg* and i think carriers are still > goliaths with range as long as you abuse the terrain and micro them good enough. have you ever tried to fight anything without goliath range? it fucking sucks without it TT That is why I think he needs to be removed. The terran won't just sit there and let the zerg build up and get ultra/defiler so why should it be able to sit there and let the toss build up and then still win? | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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lawl mart
United States1289 Posts
and how can you compare tvp to tvz? tvz defilers and ultras are pretty much only going to work late game, when you have alot of gas comming in, but carriers can be built at many points of the game and still have success. and ya, fighting carriers with range goliaths is still not as easy as it looks ~~ edit - i think Drowsy may have gotten my point off better than i did ^^ | ||
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Q~Bert
United States658 Posts
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Highways
Australia6098 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
In vanilla, T was strong vs P early game than it is in BW because of no dts, but in late game P is stronger vs T than in BW imo because of carriers. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Also the scenarios you are mentioning are pretty much nonexistant. Terran just turtle and win due to gollie range? Sidnote: I hate carriers, they are boring to use and they are boring to play against. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
no golli range = carrier abuse = problems for terran dont start saying its imba | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
use dweb ;] | ||
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lawl mart
United States1289 Posts
On September 30 2006 21:52 Q~Bert wrote: But still. If you can keep up in expos TvP the money they are using for carriers will significantly reduce their macro and you can just roll over them and razing 1-2 of their expos. so your saying that the carriers you made will do nothing to hurt the terran army? no, you get carriers, you pick off units here and there, and they make up for thier cost. when he starts to make 40 goliaths then thats what you have your main army for, to rape those goliaths. when your carriers are cruising around start picking off the tanks, and sooner or later he wont have much of a force to deal with your ground troops. basically, if you cant win with carriers then use something else, dont make a tl thread about goliaths being imba, because they are not | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On September 30 2006 22:30 Plexa wrote: pvt is one of the most balanced mu's out there no golli range = carrier abuse = problems for terran dont start saying its imba No, pvt is statistically imbalanced in favor of protoss(at least on old pgt stats it was, particularly on maps that people actually play, on lt and a few older maps terran had a slight lead). Removing gollie range would make an already 1-2% imbalance even worse to equally as bad as pvz or possibly even worse, which makes this an absolutely retarded suggestion. It'd be like saying "OH BTW ZEALOT SPEED IMPROVEMENT MAKES ZEALS WAY TO GOOD PVZ THEY NEED NERF!" | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On September 30 2006 23:43 Drowsy wrote: [removed quote within quote] No, pvt is statistically imbalanced in favor of protoss(at least on old pgt stats it was, particularly on maps that people actually play, on lt and a few older maps terran had a slight lead). Removing gollie range would make an already 1-2% imbalance even worse to equally as bad as pvz or possibly even worse, which makes this an absolutely retarded suggestion. It'd be like saying "OH BTW ZEALOT SPEED IMPROVEMENT MAKES ZEALS WAY TO GOOD PVZ THEY NEED NERF!" yea except TvP is really really balanced;/ | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7212 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
another thread of protoss whining, great. | ||
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