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nS-g.OoZi
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada92 Posts
September 30 2006 16:05 GMT
#21
ROFL
I wanna be on you.
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
October 01 2006 11:37 GMT
#22
TvT is imbal
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
October 01 2006 13:41 GMT
#23
your mom is imbalanced ooooo
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 01 2006 14:00 GMT
#24
On September 30 2006 23:43 Drowsy wrote:
[removed quote within quote]

No, pvt is statistically imbalanced in favor of protoss(at least on old pgt stats it was, particularly on maps that people actually play, on lt and a few older maps terran had a slight lead). Removing gollie range would make an already 1-2% imbalance even worse to equally as bad as pvz or possibly even worse, which makes this an absolutely retarded suggestion. It'd be like saying "OH BTW ZEALOT SPEED IMPROVEMENT MAKES ZEALS WAY TO GOOD PVZ THEY NEED NERF!"
Maps that people play on;
Luna -> slightly easier for protoss
RH3 -> Balanced?
Rponit -> Slightly easier for terran imo
Forte -> Protoss
etc
its all map dependant
at a HIGH level the mu is balanced okay?
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DarK]N[exuS
Profile Joined April 2006
China1441 Posts
October 01 2006 15:11 GMT
#25
You fight carriers on the edge, good micro owns you. You fight carriers on ground, you target them, ground troops own you. I think it's ok as it is, please don't nerf liaths...ever
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Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
October 01 2006 16:26 GMT
#26
carriers are autowin
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
October 01 2006 17:04 GMT
#27
pvz is imbalanced
pvt is imbalanced


what next?

pvp is imbalanced too?
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lawl mart
Profile Joined April 2006
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-01 17:06:13
October 01 2006 17:05 GMT
#28
well protoss always win pvp ya?
14cc... whats next? women voting?
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
October 01 2006 17:36 GMT
#29
On October 02 2006 02:05 lawl mart wrote:
well protoss always win pvp ya?

OK, HE HAS A POINT!

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sdpgposd
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom1464 Posts
October 01 2006 17:59 GMT
#30
Are you serious?

Theres no way the terran can properly defend from carriers without the goliath range. It would also mess up a lot of balance in the game in other mus.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 01 2006 18:38 GMT
#31
On October 02 2006 02:59 sdpgposd wrote:
Are you serious?

Theres no way the terran can properly defend from carriers without the goliath range. It would also mess up a lot of balance in the game in other mus.


by other mu:s you mean TvZ? Then no it would not be a issue. And if you was thinking about TvT then well yes goliaths would be not as used in TvT any longer. Got nothing to do with balance in the matchup
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 01 2006 18:39 GMT
#32
And oh about the suggestion. It's so stupid Grot would cry
sdpgposd
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom1464 Posts
October 01 2006 18:59 GMT
#33
Yes, tvz and tvt are the other matchups.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 01 2006 19:46 GMT
#34
This thread was serious?
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
October 01 2006 19:49 GMT
#35
On October 02 2006 04:46 Purind wrote:
This thread was serious?

it was?
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
strik.fr
Profile Joined May 2006
France212 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-01 20:44:45
October 01 2006 20:43 GMT
#36
if your p is as predictible as the shit u do every day then don't cry for imbalance.You have to be a bit creative and not always open on macro based builds.
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pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
October 01 2006 21:35 GMT
#37
Yes... pvp is the most imbal matchup
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 01 2006 21:56 GMT
#38
On October 02 2006 05:43 strik.fr wrote:
if your p is as predictible as the shit u do every day then don't cry for imbalance.You have to be a bit creative and not always open on macro based builds.

not true
you can play straight macro pvt and be just fine at top non kor/pgt A+ level.
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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
October 01 2006 22:16 GMT
#39
infested terrans honestly i want to use them! whenever i infest though they kill the cc
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
October 01 2006 22:42 GMT
#40
Very stupid suggestion, perhaps equivalent to removing the brain of the autor of this thread.

Terran doesn't have any other sufficient counter, because wraiths die to sairs/goons and storm except for lockdown, which is even more gas-intensive and requires double attention compared to goliaths.
Carriers on their own aren't suppose to be indistuctable, but combined with goons/storm/statis/(web) they nearly are.
U see carriers are there to even protoss supply disadvantage, since protoss 200/200(considering purely ground force) doesn't mean that much as terran 200/200 or zerg 200/200.
While 200/200 of Carriers/arbiters some storm, sair... is much harder to beat with any other 200/200.
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