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On April 13 2012 06:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Bugs what do you think about Toad's Vet claim? You realize that the whole reason you think I'm scum can be applied to Toad directly as well, correct?
Toad's vet claim was unnecessary but it didn't change anything at all.
However I can imagine that Toad would do it as an actual vet because of the whole thing of "haha you guys don't want to lynch VE because he could be a blue...well I'm a blue too!"
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Blazinghand
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On April 13 2012 06:07 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 06:07 Tunkeg wrote:On April 13 2012 06:03 Blazinghand wrote: Hey guys, I'm back. Just finished first skim of thread. A couple thoughts:
4F is so incredibly scummy it's unbelievable. Is he just straight up trolling? What's with the polls? What's happened to this thread.
Why did Toad claim? I'm sure someone already asked this and it was answered, but it seems unnecessary, and if he's really a Vet, its kinda a waste of a blue role that can't be confirmed. Also, for Toad: I've only been mislynched once, and that was in storm mafia.
Rereading presently. Yeah 4F is scummy as hell. IF VE flips scum there is 100% chance of 4F doing the same. Just look at VE's filter how much he have come to 4F's rescue. This together with 4F's posting says it all. But today we lynch VE. My point exactly. Can't wait to get a combo of scum kills.
Currently, I'm not moving my vote from VE unless it's impossible to lynch him but possible to lynch 4F.
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On April 13 2012 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 06:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On April 13 2012 05:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Because I WAS ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED BUGS a town DT would not claim in that situation to save himself. Only scum would claim in that situation to save themselves, because scum know that townies would be wary of lynching a blue. Townies would know this too, sure, but they would also weigh the fact that they would become completely useless afterward, they would know that they would waste the day by forcing the issue, and they would know that they would cause town to lose if they had the wrong check on their target. Since you thought of none of those things, you have to be scum. Guy, the thing is that I'M NOT COMPLETELY USELESS AFTERWARD!!! I FIND SCUM!! Jesus, you think it's all about the claim and the role - I don't give a FUCK ABOUT BEING A DT. I care about being alive longer SO TOWN CAN WIN THE GAME.
didn't you call tunkegs list bullshit? I am honestly asking you this because I have no idea and I don't to go through your massive filter for a 2 liner or that is incredible hard to find if you can simply answer me.
Anyways. So it's "lynch the guy who is worse no matter what" right now? Like tunkeg suggested d1 about Jackal?
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for the record I don't actually think fourface is scum btw
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On April 13 2012 06:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 06:07 Zealos wrote:On April 13 2012 06:07 Tunkeg wrote:On April 13 2012 06:03 Blazinghand wrote: Hey guys, I'm back. Just finished first skim of thread. A couple thoughts:
4F is so incredibly scummy it's unbelievable. Is he just straight up trolling? What's with the polls? What's happened to this thread.
Why did Toad claim? I'm sure someone already asked this and it was answered, but it seems unnecessary, and if he's really a Vet, its kinda a waste of a blue role that can't be confirmed. Also, for Toad: I've only been mislynched once, and that was in storm mafia.
Rereading presently. Yeah 4F is scummy as hell. IF VE flips scum there is 100% chance of 4F doing the same. Just look at VE's filter how much he have come to 4F's rescue. This together with 4F's posting says it all. But today we lynch VE. My point exactly. Can't wait to get a combo of scum kills. Currently, I'm not moving my vote from VE unless it's impossible to lynch him but possible to lynch 4F. Wait, no I read this wrong. I agree that 4 is scummy, but we should lynch VE today.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 13 2012 06:10 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 06:09 Blazinghand wrote:On April 13 2012 06:07 Zealos wrote:On April 13 2012 06:07 Tunkeg wrote:On April 13 2012 06:03 Blazinghand wrote: Hey guys, I'm back. Just finished first skim of thread. A couple thoughts:
4F is so incredibly scummy it's unbelievable. Is he just straight up trolling? What's with the polls? What's happened to this thread.
Why did Toad claim? I'm sure someone already asked this and it was answered, but it seems unnecessary, and if he's really a Vet, its kinda a waste of a blue role that can't be confirmed. Also, for Toad: I've only been mislynched once, and that was in storm mafia.
Rereading presently. Yeah 4F is scummy as hell. IF VE flips scum there is 100% chance of 4F doing the same. Just look at VE's filter how much he have come to 4F's rescue. This together with 4F's posting says it all. But today we lynch VE. My point exactly. Can't wait to get a combo of scum kills. Currently, I'm not moving my vote from VE unless it's impossible to lynch him but possible to lynch 4F. Wait, no I read this wrong. I agree that 4 is scummy, but we should lynch VE today.
Excellent.
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On April 13 2012 06:09 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 06:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Bugs what do you think about Toad's Vet claim? You realize that the whole reason you think I'm scum can be applied to Toad directly as well, correct? Toad's vet claim was unnecessary but it didn't change anything at all. However I can imagine that Toad would do it as an actual vet because of the whole thing of "haha you guys don't want to lynch VE because he could be a blue...well I'm a blue too!"
Yeah - sooner than he did. TownToad would have shoved it in my fase AS SOON AS I CLAIMED and votes started falling off Bugs. Tell me you don't think so. Tell me so I can call you a liar and ragequit the thread.
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RE: My final stance on VE
On April 13 2012 04:58 VisceraEyes wrote: The thing you're not taking into account Bugs is that I don't give A SINGLE FUCK about my check. Not one. At this point I know for a fact that Toad is scum, and that's why I want him lynched. I'm not "still talking about" Toad, if you'll read the fucking thread, I started the MOVEMENT to arrive at an alternative lynch.
You don't care though. All you care about is flipping me. You and Risen both are playing with pants on your head. You're not thinking or reading the thread. Leave your vote on me Bugs, I'm not going to flip today. All that does is make you look suspicious for playing like a noob when everyone knows you're not. STOP playing like a noob Bugs. So VE says "dgaf about my check"...
On April 13 2012 04:02 VisceraEyes wrote: I prefer to lynch my check, but if seeking an alternative candidate means we get to lynch today, I can support an alternative lynch. On April 12 2012 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Bugs I said that because of my READ on Toad. I got a CHECK and a READ. If they match, why wouldn't I think I'm sane? WHAT THE FUCK MAN? Guess VE lied. =/ When someone says something to try and make a point but just rescinds that stance when another point needs to be made, I call BS.
On April 13 2012 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote: No, at this point Bugs HAS to be scum. The bias he's showing has reached malicious levels. He and Toad are BOTH scum.
I will also support wherebugsgo as an alternative lynch. On April 13 2012 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote: I can lynch Katina today too.
GOD YOU ALL CAN'T BE SCUM X( VE wants to lynch everybody.... what? Where is the VE focus we've all come to know and love. On a side note, Katina is the new Bluelightz; need someone to be suspicious of? Pick Katina! -_-
On April 13 2012 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I voted Yes and Yes. Votes "yes" we should stfu about talking about myself. Proceeds to spend next 2 pages in random quarreling.
I thought VE was just getting desparate and went crazy b/c he had gotten DT and hadn't died for once; his desparation sounded genuine to me. However when he gets the chance to help town, a chance that he isn't going to be instalynched, his plan of action is "let's lynch jdub. no wait WBG. no wait Katina". ??? While WBG and Toad tunneled really hard on VE, myself and a few others gave VE time to explain and do more to help town, but I'm just not seeing anything legitimate from him. I've given a lot of thought to both sides, and though I don't like Toad for many reasons, it's true: Toad has been more transparent than VE. Toad, you know how you said random finger pointing isn't a mafia trait? I'd say the way VE is doing it, is pretty friggen scummy. He has just been FoSing random people for the past 24 hours instead of helping mend the mess that D2 has been. This all points to a scum VE.
I feel like a complete idiot for waffling, but I'm 99% sure this is how it's going to be. Sorry for contributing to the thread mess, but it's over for now.
##unvote ##Vote: VisceraEyes
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Blazinghand
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But isn't claiming Vet just inherently bad because your power is worthless once scum know who you are? you can get RBed, or just not shot. It's not like your power can be confirmed-- so why would you ever do so?
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Regardless, VE basically claimed scum so let's see if we can wrangle up the extra votes.
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Yeah, we're almost there now. Then hopefully the townies will see sense and we can kill FF among others.
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On April 13 2012 06:15 Blazinghand wrote: But isn't claiming Vet just inherently bad because your power is worthless once scum know who you are? you can get RBed, or just not shot. It's not like your power can be confirmed-- so why would you ever do so?
Vet is the perfect claim for a scum to make. Next night, when they don't turn up dead, they can say "I guess the scum didn't want to shoot me since I'm a vet and they probably don't have a role blocker and I'm totally town". Not saying that's what happened.
Still don't know why he claimed to begin with. There was less pressure on him at that point then there was earlier in the thread.
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On April 13 2012 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 06:09 wherebugsgo wrote:On April 13 2012 06:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Bugs what do you think about Toad's Vet claim? You realize that the whole reason you think I'm scum can be applied to Toad directly as well, correct? Toad's vet claim was unnecessary but it didn't change anything at all. However I can imagine that Toad would do it as an actual vet because of the whole thing of "haha you guys don't want to lynch VE because he could be a blue...well I'm a blue too!" Yeah - sooner than he did. TownToad would have shoved it in my fase AS SOON AS I CLAIMED and votes started falling off Bugs. Tell me you don't think so. Tell me so I can call you a liar and ragequit the thread.
you are fucking retarded.
btw this is a list of names VE is currently fine with lynching:
BH Katina Artanis Zealos johnnywup wherebugsgo Toadesstern Jitsu
Anyone notice something funny? THAT'S 8 PLAYERS LOL
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On April 13 2012 06:02 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 05:58 FourFace wrote:On April 13 2012 05:49 Zealos wrote:On April 13 2012 05:43 FourFace wrote:On April 12 2012 21:07 Zealos wrote:Mr FourFaceNot all too many strong cases. Seems happy to cause a little chaos here and there and lurk when things get rough. I sayz + Show Spoiler +More than you, bud. More cases than you.. Oh let me ninja you and tell you that my case on BH is pretty strong. I mean just check the dates on the 2 posts where he's claiming he'll look at Janaan's filter. It's like "I'm in the midst of reading Janaan's filter" and 20 minutes later he's like "Maybe I'll take a peek at Janaan's filter". No to mention he's been almost as useless as you all game long Also good at posting fluff: I says + Show Spoiler +I was frustrated .. and by the way you post against me you like me frustrated. On April 12 2012 04:11 FourFace wrote:On April 12 2012 00:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, it's nice to know that Tunkeg is going to be turning off his brain for the rest of the game. Thanks for letting us know guy, that would've been confusing later! I'm doing the same. I have really tried to read and find something, but I have no idea how to play this game nor am I willing to commit to make an effort once it looks more like work than play. I am pretty pissed at Toad and gonzaw for making this chronologically unreadable, and pissed at TL for not supplying the means to filter-out a player, i.e. ignore. If either one is mafia I think this is a gay tactic. Maybe you fancy smugs with your iphones can read wherever, whenever comfortably, I on the other hand have an ancient CRT monitor which is like 24 inches and it burns my eyes if I stare at it longer than 3 hours and I think my chair is slightly oblique.. so fuck you, I couldn't have possibly known that this was going to be this hard. It's boring. It's depressing. Town is in a shitty position and I got -1 cred because sput flipped blue, which makes me wonder how much I really know about this game. Even if I'd read this thing from start to finish I wouldn't know what to look for. So if Toad and gonzaw are in fact scum I have to admit you've raped me at this game. I had no chance whatsoever and I feel like committing suicide. If you are both town you should get your heads examined for posting like that. I agree not to vote for Toad if he could just for the love of God, promise to make his posts less lethal, and could everyone just stop the meta crap. I need to vent on another thing + Show Spoiler +I don't know who to vote for but if I'd have to choose, motivated by something other than the urge for convenience, I'd choose all those who call johnnywup - jdub. Why would you call johnnywup - jdub. I just can't understand it. Is he a smurf? I don't know any jdub so why wasn't I informed who the fuck you people are talking about when referring to jdub. I've also noticed that if I'm not involved with any of the discussion that I can't make myself give a shit about it. I guess I got ADD mixed with narcissism or something. So I'm just lurking around today to see if someone mentions my name because that might motivate me to go through his filter. I've never seen a post so long with literally no useful information in it. Just look at it?! And what does this achieve? You two should kiss and make up. By the time you asked VE about Toad he already made the check so what is he supposed to say to you .. that he made the check so he that's why he thinks Toad is suspicious? Then he thought to himself, fuck it I'll claim and make wbg understand why I think Toad is scum to answer his question and get him on my side.
But wbg isn't town, is he.. he understood what VE was doing, he knew no one else would understand so he can make VE look like scum by playing ignorant. VE did all this for you and now you won't back off of lynching him?
VE, Am I crazy? Not to mention, I am not the first people to see issues with FourFace, and I find it interesting that the person I really think is scum VisceraEyes seems to be best buddies with him. Fourface has shot down any attempt to call VE scum, and VE hasn't even mentioned the people who have claimed Fourface as scum. I says + Show Spoiler +So why am I scum.. because some people have issues with me .. what issues, he didn't care to mention. VE is not one of those .. he must be scum and me too because I haven't attempted to call VE scum. VE you are scum.. there, happy now? You so derpy Zealos Thats why tonight we kill VisceraEyes then tomorrow we can kill his scumbuddy Fourface(But please for the love of god, can we get rid of VE first?) I says + Show Spoiler +That was a reaally nice case with a really obvious conclusion as to what town has to do. I think I'll send you a picture that says more than a 1000 words. I was saying that I don't find it surprising that you and VE seem to be buddying up. Not to mention you ignored this post until I directly confronted you. You case against BH is strong, and I also think he is scum. But for me, in order of lynching: 1.VE 2.Johnny 3.FourFace 4.BH I told you man, I think this thread is so boring .. the only way to get my attention is to mention me. And that wbg vs VE thing.. I was trying to make peace between VE and wbg. I don't know if I evaluated the situation correctly but I think wbg calls VE scum only because VE calls Toad scum for no apparent reason. So to make it clear to wbg why he's voting for Toad.. he claims DT. And so on. I don't care even care if I understood what's going because couldn't bring myslef to read every bit of shit that went on between the two, but don't you think that I wouldn't vote for VE if it comes down to it. I don't think he's town. I just don't think the reasons that everyone mentioned justify his lynch. The reasons I gave about BH justify his lynch. Everyone not voting for BH at this point looks brainless to me. And people like you make any sort of intellectual effort painful because you immediately insult my attention investment. Hang on FourFace... You lurk, except when someone mentions you so you come running to defend yourself. SCUM SCUM SCUM
SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM .. wait what? ah, whatever
SCUM SCUM SCUM .. You so derpy. I told you I can't be bothered about VE vs wbg crap. Yeah I'm gonna defend myself but you didn't really call me out as you had no real case. Since toad said that it's better to defend oneself than leave idiot accusations unsettled I figure I'd go through your filter to see what you had to offer... naught. I lurked .. specifically said why, then I made a case .. derped around.. saw you accusing me of something .. responded to that hideous case and here I am calling you derpy again.
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So it's ok to lurk provided you inform everyone to begin with?
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it's at 13 now. VE to be lynched.
@BH Polls aren't inherently scummy. Like this guy. He wasn't scum. You don't have a case on 4F lol... You really think 4F is 2nd scummiest guy in this game?
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
4F truly amazes me because his play is so unhelpful, it brings to mind the possibility that he is some sort of small child or otherwise physically incapable of helping us-- beyond scummy. My theory: caught in a web of scummery, he decided his only path to not getting lynched was to play so scummy we'd think he couldn't be scum. The final ploy of a desperate and somewhat unskilled scumplayer.
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On April 13 2012 06:19 Zealos wrote: So it's ok to lurk provided you inform everyone to begin with?
It's better than to lurk in the shadown, don't you think?
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