Girlblog Followup: Mixed results lead to confusion - Page 2
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
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sambour
Canada62 Posts
It's great you have someone to dance with. And yes, do dance, even if you suck. Sounds like she just wants to have fun. So go out and meet her friends, be nice, bring some friends of your own and have a good time. | ||
missefficiency
Germany105 Posts
The decision on her side was a "Yes? No? Do I have a better option?..." - "Yeah. (Better than nobody...but hey, I'm going to prom.)" The thing about her friends is something she does because she wants a crowd to admire her even though she's not going to make promqueen, so this is about her only. Yes, she is using you to get her personal cheerleaders and - in case you're boring- fun-backups in so she'll have a good time no matter what. Same thing with the dress and colors. She will decide upon a dress and its color, she'll notify you about it soon enough so you can get her matching flowers and yourself a matching tie. After all, guys don't have to worry that much, they wear tuxedos on all occasions. To me, her behaviour seems absolutely normal for the average 17/18 year old schoolgirl. It's what my younger sister would do as well. She likes you, she'd have said "No" straight away if she didn't. Girls can be very direct and bitchy about that. But she likes you on a platonic level, she doesn't have a crush on you. I don't know about you, but it seems you like her more than she likes you. Here's the problem imo. You're about to make a big deal out of it and that's not gonna end up well. If you want her cooperation, you have to negotiate in a way as to communicate your interests while making her a compliment. Let's take the color discussion. "I think you'd look great in a blue dress, it would make your eyes shine even more." Sounds a lot better than "Urgh, Tiffany, we really have to talk about the color coordination for prom!", right? About her friends? "You just need me to get your friends in, right? *player grin on* That's k as long as they're hot...are they?" It will provoke an ashamed (because feeling exposed) "NOHO, it's just...well yeah..they look nice..." and she will start worrying that they might steal her moment. You win. Don't you dare and be a pussy, I warn you. She wants her show. You want her to be part of your shared show, and you want her to be in it with her heart and soul. Make her do it, but please don't go to her and be like "Ehm, I think you just said yes to not make me cry and you don't really care about me being your prom date..." NOT MANLY. NOT MANLY AT ALL. Girls under twenty are Barbies. Barbies are a toy. They play their own lifes and they want their Ken to do the manly stuff every now and then. Be Ken. | ||
ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On April 05 2012 22:41 OpticalShot wrote: Rek has spoken. Let me try to give you a longer version. Sorry to hear that, here's my analysis step-by-step: 1. You asked her like a man but in front of her friends. - Bad move, bro. "In front of her friends" is not a good setting for her to make a sound decision. She's constrained by both social image (if she says no she gains 500 exp in the bitch skill tree) and time (if she hesitates then the awkward air grows by tenfold). If she's not even willing to speak with you privately, how can she be comfortable spending an entire night with you with you as her primary partner for social interactions? When I asked my prom date it was like "hey the weather's nice lets go for a walk in the park" -> goes to park together -> "Would you be my prom partner?" that kind of thing. Simple and private, so that you give the girl a fair chance to make the decision. Guess I wasn't detailed enough in my previous replies to your blogs >_<;; 2. She said yes. - Okay, so yes is better than no... at least I think so. If you were absolutely hideous and disgusting she would have said no on the spot even though her friends (and your friends?) were watching. So that means you are not absolutely hideous and disgusting, congratulations. You now have a prom partner. Game on. 3. She's bringing two of her friends from outside of school. - As many other mentioned, this is an obvious sign of self-shielding. It's like she scouted your proxy 2gate so she's building not one, but TWO shield batteries (and an early forge+cannon) to keep her base safe from any possible cheesy strategies. Despicable move on her part, really. I would go as far as to assume that she's hired two chicks to shield her pussy because she thinks you want to fuck her in the afterparty. Apologies for the rather blunt language. 4. Game's not over yet. - What do you do when you fail your cheese because opponent went super defensive? You macro it up and overpower her defences with unrelenting waves of attack. So here's what my next step would be, in your shoes. I ask another girl to prom. Yes, I would ask another girl to prom. You already gained some experience from asking this girl, so the second time should be easier. Assuming you've picked a good target (she probably shouldn't know that you're going with the first girl), you get a yes and now you have a backup. Now, you confront the first chick and go all offensive. All-in but not really an all-in since you have a backup! Confront her about how you don't appreciate how the process has been going, and let her know how things should be or else you're calling it off. Either way, you have a prom partner at the end. 5. However, you risk a lot of things... - Should you follow the plan in #4 and fail, your reputation will be shattered for obvious reasons. Even if you succeed, you lose a bit. Shit man, I don't know exactly how you're feeling, but I would feel terrible about going to a prom with a girl who clearly doesn't give a fuck about me. Prom isn't a casual night out. It's a symbolic event (no matter what people tell you) that you should both enjoy and take advantage of. 6. The fun is in the afterparty. - No matter what happens with your prom date, you should plan a separate afterparty with your close friends. Prom ends about midnight but the real fun begins after midnight! If you fully remember what happened in the afterparty, you're doing it wrong. Get some booze (older brother / older friends?), get a place (there's always a guy or two that have really chill parents that will empty the place for their son), and get some chicks over (whether you personally like them or not). PARTY!! You are talking about social image and time in 1 and then u tell them him to screw her and go with someone else? Seriously? I don't think Foradac was thinking about fucking her so 3 is unecessary and borderline trolling imo. What do you mean by take advantage of in 5? I'm not seeing any signs of her not giving a fuck, she wants to be with friends so she doesn't give a fuck? o_O? Froadac don't be insecure like this guy please. | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On April 05 2012 16:13 Froadac wrote: Girl Blog Followup: Mixed results So yeah, I was man enough to ask a girl to ball. But not man enough to post the confusing and awkward result. So yeah, I decide to be boring as hell. Just manly ask her. So class is over, blah, it’s an ok day. So I just ask her in front of a friend of hers. No ummms, etc. Just something along the lines, you’re a wonderful person would you go to senior ball with me. And she was like.. pause…. Yeah. Which was sort of weird, she was trying to figure out what to do then. And then she said, sure. And then I was sorta happy, but I was like, OK great! And then things just proceeded to get really really strange. So we were still talking and stuff. But then I didn’t post a followup cause weird stuff started happening. She was like omg need to bring people I know at local private school (2 girls), and since one person is allowed to bring one person from another school and she wanted me to bring one of them I started going uhh, this is odd. Am I simply being used as a vehicle? Anyways, she just keeps on acting weirder and weirder, obsesses about other friends, makes jokes about marrying her friend which she wasn’t before rofl. Maybe I’m just reading uh too far into it. Anyways, I tried to talk to her about logistics (color coordination and whatnot) and despite the fact that she is generally really obsessed with planning and clothing and etc. I’m somewhat confused, and think she just said yes to appease me. And I don’t really want to go to ball with somebody who is doing it to not upset me or something. I think she wasn’t planning on going with anyone, so she just was like yeah sure whatever. Not sure what to do T.T I am still happy with myself: I asked even though there was quite a possibility she said no. But now the whole situation is awkward, and if I want to ask anybody else not sure any etiquette issues or time issues or? This has confused me greatly. What the heck should I do. Also visiting UCSD this weekend, quite excited. Screwed for calc test, have a buffer, and studied a ton today, so should be able to pull a B. Which would be fine. Hello My friend, yes I know doing a capture is difficult sometimes frustrating but that's why you shouldn't let up. There is a reason she reacted, but did not say no. If she didn't like you she would've said no out right. I mean what does she have to lose? I wager that you are 30% into the capture already. One may say persistence does it. All you have to do is keep increasing the frequency of events with her. Talk with her, have lunch etc. What your target is currently going thru is a stage of shyness that they must overcome, with your help. The most important part is that the target never is able to see the ending, but you, the one who does the capture can always see the ending. You should always strive for that happy end. And here's how you do it. First you two need to work together, and make sure that it doesn't appear that you are doing it for yourself. A capture is about the heroine. It's about her. So Colors of the dress, yes It's about how it will make her shine, and not about how it matches with you. Yes in a capture basically look in the mirror and says FUCK YOU, FUCK WHATEVER MAYBE ABOUT YOU. and it's all about the heroine. That's the vital point of the capture. You are thinking way too much about yourself. When you think about yourself too much. The capture will fail. You said she started act differently around you after you asked her out to the ball but she didn't say no and that was key. You can use it to your leverage. Words are the strongest weapon against girls. Choosing your words properly will it easy to reel them in. As long as you increase the amount of encounters between you two, eventually it will convert into some form of affection, Human by nature hold affection to the things around them. And if you are often around them they will start to be affectionate to you too. As by text book Encounter, Impression, Affection, and Confession are the four corner stones of a capture. Once the cornerstones are set in she's as good as yours. Hope you have success in your capture Sincerely Blasty | ||
Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 05 2012 23:43 Blasterion wrote: My friend, yes I know doing a capture is difficult sometimes frustrating but that's why you shouldn't let up. There is a reason she reacted, but did not say no. If she didn't like you she would've said no out right. I mean what does she have to lose? I wager that you are 30% into the capture already. One may say persistence does it. All you have to do is keep increasing the frequency of events with her. Talk with her, have lunch etc. What your target is currently going thru is a stage of shyness that they must overcome, with your help. You said she started act differently around you after you asked her out to the ball but she didn't say no and that was key. You can use it to your leverage. Words are the strongest weapon against girls. Choosing your words properly will it easy to reel them in. As long as you increase the amount of encounters between you two, eventually it will convert into some form of affection, Human by nature hold affection to the things around them. And if you are often around them they will start to be affectionate to you too. As by text book Encounter, Impression, Affection, and Confession are the four corner stones of a capture. Once the cornerstones are set in she's as good as yours. Hope you have success in your capture Sincerely Blasty Dating in China seems like fun! | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
Actually I just wrote a bunch of things that were on the top of my head that appear to make some sense. In honesty I really just wanted to post that picture. | ||
Zaranth
United States345 Posts
She wants to go to prom/ball to have a good time. You want to go to prom/ball to hopefully have a good time as well. In this situation, if she is happy, you are happy. If she is not happy, you are not happy. I would be as chill as possible. She wants to bring other friends along. Be chill. Let it happen. But between now and then, woo her. Romance her. You never know what might happen. My senior prom, I went with a friend. After spending the evening together, we were no longer just friends. He did basically everything that I wanted. I had a wonderful time. It really proved that he was concerned about my happiness. We ended up hanging out for the entire summer until I went to college, and we actually are good friends to this day. Hope it all works out, and that you have a really fun time. GLHF!!! | ||
Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On April 05 2012 23:43 Blasterion wrote: Hello My friend, yes I know doing a capture is difficult sometimes frustrating but that's why you shouldn't let up. There is a reason she reacted, but did not say no. If she didn't like you she would've said no out right. I mean what does she have to lose? I wager that you are 30% into the capture already. One may say persistence does it. All you have to do is keep increasing the frequency of events with her. Talk with her, have lunch etc. What your target is currently going thru is a stage of shyness that they must overcome, with your help. [url=pic[/url] You said she started act differently around you after you asked her out to the ball but she didn't say no and that was key. You can use it to your leverage. Words are the strongest weapon against girls. Choosing your words properly will it easy to reel them in. As long as you increase the amount of encounters between you two, eventually it will convert into some form of affection, Human by nature hold affection to the things around them. And if you are often around them they will start to be affectionate to you too. As by text book Encounter, Impression, Affection, and Confession are the four corner stones of a capture. Once the cornerstones are set in she's as good as yours. Hope you have success in your capture Sincerely Blasty Offtopic: Which Anime is that? | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
Kami nomi zo shiru sekai | ||
Ushio
Canada868 Posts
OP asked girl to Ball girl said yes girl just using OP to transport her friends /end | ||
Froadac
United States6733 Posts
@Optic: Parents are acting as giant shield wall + templar in pvz corsair reaver in terms of afterparty. | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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Kvz
United States463 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
On April 06 2012 07:35 Froadac wrote: Asked her. She was like. uh. yeah. Shoulda told you. Uh. ok. uh. parents. uh. shit. @Optic: Parents are acting as giant shield wall + templar in pvz corsair reaver in terms of afterparty. If it's honestly a problem with her parents, the situation is a lot better than I thought. Either you let your girl sort things out or you prove to her parents that you're the man around town. First option is probably easier and more sensible, the second being more dramatic (but you know I just love drama). I'm not making stuff up, one of my ex-girlfriends in high school, the first few times I met with her parents they were very protective. One day I went over to help her with some music theory work and her mom sat literally 2 meters from us the whole time, "reading a newspaper" yeah right. It took me a couple tries and a dinner (yes her family invited me to dinner) to "earn the trust" of her parents. It's more simple than what most people think, all you need to be is 1) yourself 2) not extremely shy nor boisterous and 3) a man with a future. Talk about your university acceptances and how you dream of an amazing career as a global leader in a particular field. Okay well up until there is from my personal experience. What I just wrote probably isn't a good idea actually -_-;; there is not a lot of time until prom and you're going to be busy with a lot of stuff (including university documents and whatnot). As others have suggested here, it's a good idea (regardless of what your goals for prom / afterparty are) to get more comfortable and intimate with your prom date. If you want to play it real good boy style, go study with her in the library (just you two). Sure there won't be any real studying done, but your girl can go home and tell her parents you helped her with so much stuff that she can do triple integrals in her head. Plan for the best but prepare for the worst (I don't know if that makes any sense). Hey, even if the afterparty ends up being a bunch of guys drinking up fridge full of Heineken as long as you guys have a good time that's all that matters. From what I remember all the girls told their parents they were sleeping over at a girl-friend's house, so that may work. Good luck! | ||
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