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Are the teams balanced or are they RNG'd?
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Maybe this will work, even though I doubt it ... Are the teams balanced or are they RNG'd? | ||
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mderg
Germany1739 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:56 prplhz wrote: Okay, what do you think about my refutation of your argument that Timeaisis isn't scum because GMarshal wouldn't put first gamers on the scum team? Maybe this will work, even though I doubt it ... Are the teams balanced or are they RNG'd? I agree with that refutation, that game you posted wasn't even that long ago. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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Timeaisis
23 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:43 prplhz wrote: It is really hard for me to argue with that first argument because it's so terrible that if you can't see how terrible it is right now, then you maybe never be able to see it. First something we can both agree on: The number of posts you have does not make you better or worse at mafia. Second: Just because you have played a lot of mafia doesn't necessarily make you better at mafia. Your argument is purely speculation, you haven't looked into old games with similar setup that GMarshal has hosted have you? I haven't looked through all of those I posted earlier but I remember my very first game on this forum, which was hosted by the very GMarshal and had a similar theme. Here's the rolelist. Three scum, all first gamers. They won the game as you can see. Now you are also speculating that [UoN]Sentinel is scum because I am defending him. This is again bad logic. Say that you think that I am scum, I could be defending [UoN]Sentinel because he is scum and I don't want him to die, or I could be defending him because he is town and I want to buy town credit with him or in case it looks like he's getting lynched, town credit with the surviving town. Both are possible so my alignment tells you absolutely nothing about [UoN]Sentinel's alignment. What does tell you something about my alignment are my arguments. If I have bad arguments then I have no reason as townie to be defending [UoN]Sentinel in the first place, which makes me either wrong or scum. Which is why you need to look at the arguments and not go about speculating like that. Your case has absolutely no merits and you should really look at it and realize this very soon and switch to Timeaisis. I'm still trying to figure out why you and sentinel are fixated on me. Is it the fact that I agreed with a lot of people early game and cast a vote for sentinel (which you're calling bandwagonging) after two others had done similarly? I just don't see how that makes me scum. Did I contradict myself or lie at some point? My acting "suspicious" is taken off of my: 1) early voting 2) general neutrality early game 3) agreement with some late game sound logic (mderg's analyis of Sentinel, which I still think is the best case against him) Is that really that suspicious? I'm just trying to figure out why I have a targetpainted on my back. Yeah, my reasoning for sentinel may not be 100% steel trap, but he was my first inclination, other than you. So are you really calling me out because I'm sticking to my first instinct? I mean, sure that may be a poor strategy, but does it mean I'm scum? In my opinion, I'm being pretty consistent. I've said in the beginning that I suspect Sentinel, bluelightz, and you. I have not changed my stance on that for since I first said it. So, from here, it seems like I'm getting votes because of my opinion on you and those other two. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:56 prplhz wrote: Are the teams balanced or are they RNG'd? As with all my mini setups, roles assignments are determined by using random.org. Also, 3 hours and 50 minutes to the lynch. Remember that zbot requires you to format your vote correctly or else it won't take it. Also remember that you MUST vote or be modkilled. | ||
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mderg
Germany1739 Posts
##Unvote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
Get a derpin Majority our vote count doesnt look good.(4-3-1-1-1-1 split, not including mderg) | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
 You are voting [UoN]Sentinel not because of anybody else's analysis but because of your own. Your own analysis consists of pointing out that he bandwagon'd you, a reference to mderg's analysis (which he himself doesn't even think is sufficient), and him having to go to swimming practice but promising to be back later. This is in no way convincing. Don't you think that town has ever been second on a vote train? mderg wrote in his original analysis that he didn't think [UoN]Sentinel was worth a lynch, only that he was top suspect, and he's just now retracted his vote. [UoN]Sentinel has been open and active in this thread, he's responded to criticism already and doesn't seem like he's hiding anything, everything points at him actually just having swimming practice and he'll actually be back later to answer more questions. Timaisis on the other hand at first reacted to an accusation with posts like this. Not very open. Do you think that Timaisis reacted in a more townie way to pressure than [UoN]Sentinel? I don't think you're scum by the way, I never really did. I'm arguing with you because you're here and because your vote is in the wrong place. @Timeaisis mderg has the best case on [UoN]Sentinel in the whole thread? What other cases are there? And funny how the author of the best case in the thread on somebody isn't even convinced himself, huh? Doesn't matter really, any person in your situation would push for the other guy's lynch. @mderg Do you want a no-lynch? Do you think that Timeaisis is town? @Bluelightz Timeaisis or [UoN]Sentinel? | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
Get your fucking votes on Sentinel or Timeasis. We can't risk a NL on Day 1. In case you don't understand, This game uses Extended Majority Lynch. That is, at the deadline the player with a majority of votes is lynched (majority = 1/2 the remaining players, rounded down + 1), if no one has a majority then no lynch will take place. THIS MEANS YOU: Bluelightz Vilonis TheToast BaronFel mderg Also @prplhz: lol | ||
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BaronFel
United States155 Posts
##Unvote: Sinensis I think we should vote, but I'm not fully sold on Sentinal being scum just yet... and prplhz has been making stronger arguments since his rough start... ##Vote: Timeaisis For now (He has been acting odd, and I think playing up the "Im new" card a bit too much), although I'm still watching prplhz (for having such a surprising turn around of character) and Sinensis (for some questionable logic, which even as a townie, is dangerous). | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Switch to Timeaisis. [UoN]Sentinel is a fucking horrible lynch and if you gathered any skill at all over your SEVEN FUCKING TEEN games then you should know this. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
Anyways, the vote on Sentinel was more of a reaction test than anything. That's why I didn't use any reasoning in the initial post against him. His posts have been very good as of late and I no longer feel comfortable voting for him. ##Unvote However, this post from Timeaisis really takes it home. I don't know why a town would make this kind of post. He briefly talks about other people but then dismisses it in favor of a Sentinel lynch. On February 03 2012 06:20 Timeaisis wrote: Right now, Sentinel and prphlz are my two. Especially since Sentinel seems to be more active of late, mderg's recent post, and Sinensis' recent find on prplhz (which I think is pretty reasonable). But since we have a vote rolling for Sentinel, that's the way I'm going. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel Timeaisis is also very aggressive against prplhz for very little reason. I don't like how he's overblowing this post against prplhz. It's a very weak case and since prplhz is making a lot of sense, I could see why a scum would want him dead. ##Vote: Timeaisis | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
formatting got messed up | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
For Sentinel What you explained is preety good For Timeaisis, On February 04 2012 08:04 Timeaisis wrote: I'm still trying to figure out why you and sentinel are fixated on me. Is it the fact that I agreed with a lot of people early game and cast a vote for sentinel (which you're calling bandwagonging) after two others had done similarly? I just don't see how that makes me scum. Did I contradict myself or lie at some point? My acting "suspicious" is taken off of my: 1) early voting 2) general neutrality early game 3) agreement with some late game sound logic (mderg's analyis of Sentinel, which I still think is the best case against him) Is that really that suspicious? I'm just trying to figure out why I have a targetpainted on my back. Yeah, my reasoning for sentinel may not be 100% steel trap, but he was my first inclination, other than you. So are you really calling me out because I'm sticking to my first instinct? I mean, sure that may be a poor strategy, but does it mean I'm scum? In my opinion, I'm being pretty consistent. I've said in the beginning that I suspect Sentinel, bluelightz, and you. I have not changed my stance on that for since I first said it. So, from here, it seems like I'm getting votes because of my opinion on you and those other two. the part that i italiced is what makes me think he's town now. @mderg I'm sorry for accusing you for lurking, lets be friends <3?Anyway I'm unvoting him and we need to hurry up and find a lynch candidate x_x | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5202 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:30 Sinensis wrote: I think EchelonTee is the one being emotional. He's been grilling Timeaisis and ONLY Timeaisis this whole game. His "points" he likes to talk about are convoluted. That said I think neither are scum. Generally, or at least in my opinion, it's better to be focused on who you think is most scum. It doesn't mean that I suspect no one else, or that I have some vendetta against my target; there's no point in me posting on cases I am less sure of. I will stop by before the deadline to ensure that a lynch happens, but will not be on thread until then. | ||
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Vilonis
United States130 Posts
I believe that there has been a good case against Timeaisis, and we have a chance to lynch him, so I will vote him. I like what Nisani206 said here, about Timeasisis's general aggression, and pointed out the post of Timeasis's herein which he put the burden of proof on proving why Bluelightz and UoNSentinel are NOT mafia. On D1, where we have no real concrete evidence, this seems like pretty chaosy behavior. ##Unvote: Nisani201 ##Vote: Timeaisis Sorry if I spelt your name wrong in my post, I am kinda in a rush. | ||
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