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On January 18 2012 02:20 jaj22 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:04 Jayjay54 wrote:In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting  Given the low vote count on the three main candidates (32 votes, 10 scum), it looks implausible that a mafia didn't get elected unless they really weren't trying. It's quite possible that mafia even spread their votes between (scum) BM and (town) BC on the basis that BC was going to lynch Protactinium or Palmar.
I'm going to say if sandroba really flips green (which I don't believe will happen) we fucked up big time because we've got 2 mafias in office.
If sandroba is red I'm willing to believe BM is green and BC is red.
If sandroba is green I'm willing to believe BM is red. But that's not telling us shit about BC at all. Could be mafia or green,
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On January 18 2012 02:26 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:20 jaj22 wrote:On January 18 2012 02:04 Jayjay54 wrote:In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting Given the low vote count on the three main candidates (32 votes, 10 scum), it looks implausible that a mafia didn't get elected unless they really weren't trying. It's quite possible that mafia even spread their votes between (scum) BM and (town) BC on the basis that BC was going to lynch Protactinium or Palmar. I'm going to say if sandroba really flips green (which I don't believe will happen) we fucked up big time because we've got 2 mafias in office. If sandroba is red I'm willing to believe BM is green and BC is red.If sandroba is green I'm willing to believe BM is red. But that's not telling us shit about BC at all. Could be mafia or green,
so you actually consider the logs to be faked? that's a metric fuck ton of work, you don't just "chat", you actually have to put a lot of effort in faking it that well.
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kitaman27
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So much for parity between lynch candidates. Disappointing that we have only been able to put pressure on a single player this cycle. Anything you would like to share Macpo? Perhaps a scum suspect list that isn't a list of inactives?
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On January 18 2012 02:30 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:26 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2012 02:20 jaj22 wrote:On January 18 2012 02:04 Jayjay54 wrote:In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting Given the low vote count on the three main candidates (32 votes, 10 scum), it looks implausible that a mafia didn't get elected unless they really weren't trying. It's quite possible that mafia even spread their votes between (scum) BM and (town) BC on the basis that BC was going to lynch Protactinium or Palmar. I'm going to say if sandroba really flips green (which I don't believe will happen) we fucked up big time because we've got 2 mafias in office. If sandroba is red I'm willing to believe BM is green and BC is red.If sandroba is green I'm willing to believe BM is red. But that's not telling us shit about BC at all. Could be mafia or green, so you actually consider the logs to be faked? that's a metric fuck ton of work, you don't just "chat", you actually have to put a lot of effort in faking it that well.
kind of. I don' think they're faked but the timestamp might be. Remember I asked him early on to show his logs and he refused to do so and only posted them once the night started.
But yeah you're right that's pretty unlikely 
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Given that Macpo claims to like calm logical posting, I'd really like him to say what he thinks about Bill Murray given that he voted for him and BM has been posting garbage all day. Unfortunately he's probably terminally idle :-/
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On January 18 2012 02:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:30 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 18 2012 02:26 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2012 02:20 jaj22 wrote:On January 18 2012 02:04 Jayjay54 wrote:In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting Given the low vote count on the three main candidates (32 votes, 10 scum), it looks implausible that a mafia didn't get elected unless they really weren't trying. It's quite possible that mafia even spread their votes between (scum) BM and (town) BC on the basis that BC was going to lynch Protactinium or Palmar. I'm going to say if sandroba really flips green (which I don't believe will happen) we fucked up big time because we've got 2 mafias in office. If sandroba is red I'm willing to believe BM is green and BC is red.If sandroba is green I'm willing to believe BM is red. But that's not telling us shit about BC at all. Could be mafia or green, so you actually consider the logs to be faked? that's a metric fuck ton of work, you don't just "chat", you actually have to put a lot of effort in faking it that well. kind of. I don' think they're faked but the timestamp might be. Remember I asked him early on to show his logs and he refused to do so and only posted them once the night started. But yeah you're right that's pretty unlikely
To me, the other extreme BC and sandro being green is bullshit as well, because all those plays were not really townfavoured to be developed by two townies => one of them is scum.
BM is a different story. Jitsu masoned with him. Jitsu? You in here? what's your take on BM after talking to him for like 30 hours.
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Hey BC, who did you mason today?
I read a while back you were thinking about me or foolishness, since it's not with me is it with foolishness for sure?
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Although I'm not entirely convinced that macpo is sure mafia due to sheer terribleness of his insane rambling, we still have to get rid of him at some point due to the amount of players suspicious of him. This talk about no opposition to his lynch is in no way indicative of him being innocent. Mafia is not likely to openly oppose a lynch that has so much support and so far only 28 out of 44 voters have cast their votes. Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today.
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All right - I'm going to add my vote to macpo and trust the vets on this one. He simply doesn't have enough posts/content for ME to make a judgement, so fuck it. If they're right, badass.
##Vote: Macpo
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On January 18 2012 02:42 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 02:36 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2012 02:30 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 18 2012 02:26 Toadesstern wrote:On January 18 2012 02:20 jaj22 wrote:On January 18 2012 02:04 Jayjay54 wrote:In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting Given the low vote count on the three main candidates (32 votes, 10 scum), it looks implausible that a mafia didn't get elected unless they really weren't trying. It's quite possible that mafia even spread their votes between (scum) BM and (town) BC on the basis that BC was going to lynch Protactinium or Palmar. I'm going to say if sandroba really flips green (which I don't believe will happen) we fucked up big time because we've got 2 mafias in office. If sandroba is red I'm willing to believe BM is green and BC is red.If sandroba is green I'm willing to believe BM is red. But that's not telling us shit about BC at all. Could be mafia or green, so you actually consider the logs to be faked? that's a metric fuck ton of work, you don't just "chat", you actually have to put a lot of effort in faking it that well. kind of. I don' think they're faked but the timestamp might be. Remember I asked him early on to show his logs and he refused to do so and only posted them once the night started. But yeah you're right that's pretty unlikely To me, the other extreme BC and sandro being green is bullshit as well, because all those plays were not really townfavoured to be developed by two townies => one of them is scum. BM is a different story. Jitsu masoned with him. Jitsu? You in here? what's your take on BM after talking to him for like 30 hours.
That's what giving me problems. I thought d1 we either got 1 or maybe even 2 mafias out of the circle bum+sandroba+bc. I found it unlikely that it's both bc and sandroba at the same time and since sandroba is scum it's either only sandroba or sandroba + bum for me on d1.
However BM is giving me a red read today and I was on green about BM earlier. I can't judge BC right now without a sandroba lynch and I'd much rather not lynch into an office without having a proper case.
So that's in a nutshell what I'm having problems with today. I still think sandroba is mafia but I don't like the people that joined me at all. VE is still a fakeclaimer for me (I explained that earlier on and EVERYONE ignored it, at that point in time I figured because it's best for town to ignore it to get some wifom for mafia), he voted sandroba early on as well.
BM as mentioned gives me heavy mafia vibes right now and joined sandroba as well. Bum hasn't posted a lot and everyone in this thread says the case on sandroba is retarded without telling me why although I keep asking.
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oh and the reason I'd rather lynch someone like sandroba instead of Macpo or GGQ is still that I'm not sure if I'm able to read them right. I never played with them. Are they new? Are they decent? Are they some kind of vets?
I don't think we should be lynching into a wonderbox of new players who are able to screw up as town big time but there's no point in trying to get another lynch now.
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Toad, you mention like every other post that you think I'm a fake-claimer. You DON'T say however whether you think I'm mafia. If you think I'm mafia, man up and either point a finger or place a vote. If you don't, SHUT UP ABOUT MY CLAIM PLEASE! GAH!
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On January 18 2012 03:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Toad, you mention like every other post that you think I'm a fake-claimer. You DON'T say however whether you think I'm mafia. If you think I'm mafia, man up and either point a finger or place a vote. If you don't, SHUT UP ABOUT MY CLAIM PLEASE! GAH!
I thought what I'm doing is considered pointing a finger
hereby I am officially announcing that I am pointing a finger at you. I will however not vote you because noone will lynch you today and that would be a wasted vote.
I'd actually like to keep talking about this because it's only a fos. I'm still not sure if you tried to get shot (which failed) or a mafia yet.
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On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote:
Although I'm not entirely convinced that macpo is sure mafia due to sheer terribleness of his insane rambling, we still have to get rid of him at some point due to the amount of players suspicious of him. This talk about no opposition to his lynch is in no way indicative of him being innocent. Mafia is not likely to openly oppose a lynch that has so much support and so far only 28 out of 44 voters have cast their votes. Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today.
This is a terrible post, but luckily for you, if we solve the BC/BM/Proact clusterfuck, we'll have very solid chunks of information regarding your allegiance.
You + BC would not have faked a massive skype log, which indicates that you're either both town, or split. This means that if BC ends up being mafia, you're cleared. If, on the other hand, he isn't, then your abstinence from voting on day 1 would indicate that you didn't care about the voting, which would be the case if BM/Proact were mafia. If somehow there's only one mafia out of BM/Proact and BC is town, then I'd need to go back into your filter and see your stance vis a vis BM and Proact individually.
So, what say you?
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I say you haven't read the thread, otherwise you would know what happened about my abstinence day1, as it was discussed quite a bit and your said cluster fuck is a fabrication of your scummy mind.
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"That's what giving me problems. I thought d1 we either got 1 or maybe even 2 mafias out of the circle bum+sandroba+bc"
why those 3 Toadesstern, BC sandroba were pming ok why bum?
and this is getting annoying.
L, hiro protagonist (sandroba?), and anyone else who still thinks using the double lynch means we lynch two people today. Voting for the double lynch is voting for lynching two people the following day.
please reread the description.
Double Lynch
Usable two times per game, the double lynch means the town lynches two people instead of one for that day. This means on the next day everyone gets two votes to distribute between two different people. The double lynch is activated by voting for it in addition to a player (or players if a double lynch is currently activated). The vote must exceed half the number of players voting that day. For instance, if there are 30 players voting then the town needs 16 votes to use a double lynch. Double lynches may be voted on starting Day 2. You may use double lynches on consecutive days.
and this answer from jcarlsoniv.
On January 17 2012 06:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 06:05 evantrees wrote:
To make certain. Does the double lynch happens the day after it is voted to be enacted or is it enacted the same day?
Show nested quote +This means on the next day everyone gets two votes to distribute between two different people.
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17 votes on macpo. the second best candidate has 2.
This is ridiculous.
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oh yeah. and the funny part is: he would have been modkilled either way. tadaaaaa
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Everyone voting macpo, unvote, choose someone else. If he comes back aka avoids modkill, you can vote him again. In the meantime, ++ discussion.
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On January 18 2012 04:19 Jayjay54 wrote:
17 votes on macpo. the second best candidate has 2.
This is ridiculous.
I don't know why people want to lynch someone who going to be modkilled but apparently the crow wants to lynch him
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