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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 19:31 GMT
#2201
cheese, toad:

set a good example and unvote! maybe we can unite on someone to actually create a scecond lynch candidate? what are your thoughts?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 17 2012 19:45 GMT
#2202
On January 18 2012 03:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
All right - I'm going to add my vote to macpo and trust the vets on this one. He simply doesn't have enough posts/content for ME to make a judgement, so fuck it. If they're right, badass.

##Vote: Macpo

This is enough for me to hang your ass. You won't pass judgement but you'll help hang his ass. Scummy Visc. Very scummy.


If you don't like the Macpo lynch this guy is an excellent alternative.
Life can only kill you once.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#2203
Jayjay is getting really annoying with his anti-Macpo lynch posts.

Can you please explain what information GGQ gets us as compared to Macpo? And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he going to get modkilled too?

Not that we should expect modkills to do the work for us.
Cheese is good for you!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#2204
##Unvote
Had a few thoughts, will share once I organize them mentally.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7595 Posts
January 17 2012 19:58 GMT
#2205
Considering the amount of people voting double lynch and I thought the entire premise on that was that the vote today was going to give us definitive clues for the upcoming DL. Now we're squandering on the vote today, seems everyone is undecisive, in that light perhaps we should save the DL?

Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:01 GMT
#2206
On January 18 2012 04:51 Scamp wrote:
Jayjay is getting really annoying with his anti-Macpo lynch posts.

Can you please explain what information GGQ gets us as compared to Macpo? And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he going to get modkilled too?

Not that we should expect modkills to do the work for us.


yea I guess we should all stay quiet. that'll help.

if GGQ flips red, Chaos is red, too. Since he's softdefend both GGQ and cyri. Also, there is basically no one (well, maybe me) saying don't lynch him, so if he really flips newb green, we don't get information, while on GGQ there at least has been a little discussion about him. Although, I'm sure that people like will probably tell that I'm if mac flips red. Looking forward to that.

GGQ already posted during this cycle.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 17 2012 20:11 GMT
#2207
You get modkilled if you don't vote, please read the OP.

And yeah, if your going to go with the information argument you need a lot more than what you're saying GGQ provides us.
Cheese is good for you!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 17 2012 20:14 GMT
#2208
Adam4167 (Filter link)

On January 13 2012 19:41 Adam4167 wrote:
This hasn't been mentioned yet and I think it deserves to be:

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 06:20 flamewheel wrote:
Bodyguard
You protect the elected roles. After the election concludes, two Bodyguards are randomly chosen from amongst the pool of Townies. Before Townies are randomly selected as bodyguards though, Mafia may elect to substitute any of their members in for Bodyguards. That means there may be 0, 1, or 2 Mafia acting as Bodyguards instead of townspeople. The town will not know who is selected as bodyguards, but the elected roles will. As long as you (the bodyguards) remain alive, elected roles cannot be killed during the night. However, Mafia bodyguards do not protect town-aligned elected roles! This means that if there are no town-aligned bodyguards left, town-aligned elected roles are in danger of death during the night phase. Town-aligned bodyguards chosen from the pool of Townies will show up as Bodyguards to role checks, and Mafia-aligned bodyguards will show up as Bodyguards regardless of any other powers they might possess.


Electing our best scum hunters so they can use the bodyguards as shields is just inviting the scum to wipe out both of our elected officials after they replace our bodyguards with their own. If they kill both officials on night 1, we'll never know who the scummy bodyguards were and we'll be down 2 of our best scum hunters and both of our elected roles.

Id prefer if our best scum hunters didn't run for election, and left their protection in the hands of the sheriff/medic.

Nobody picked up on this. Not sure why it never garnered more discussion. It's fear mongering, to try and not protect the best scum-hunters what?
There were, and still are, a ton of options for dealing with this, which could leave town with trading 2 for 2 if both are replaced.

There seems to be a huge lack of content. This is his best post to date:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2012 20:01 Adam4167 wrote:
Filter problems:
-glurio’s filter is linked to D3’s.
-Jackals filter is linked to glurio’s.

Palmars lynch/WBG, is WBG scummy?
- Im disappointed that Palmar was yet again made a focus of discussion on day 1, but he was right, there was almost 10 people doing far less then him (incoming modkills), yet he gets flack for it, based solely on his name (meta).
- As far as the WBG situation, I can see it going either way, right now he’s null to me but I cant fault him for wanting more out of Palmar, I did too.

Palmars lynch/BC choosing him, did you agree with this?
-Nope, should have followed his read and hung protactinium. Not that I think Prot is scum, I don’t, otherwise I wouldn’t have voted for him, but if BC is going to be swayed by the loudest voice in the mob, he may as well have just stepped down and let someone else win. I wanted someone who was confident in his reads, not making compromises with his suspicious mason buddy.

BM/BC being the elected pair?
-Well, I didn’t vote for either of them. Right now I like Bill Murray a whole lot more then I like BC. He’s posting, maintaining a good thread presence, contributing in the discussion. BC’s rash Palmar lynch, which seemingly came out of the blue, has me concerned that it went to the wrong place.

Who would you look into lynching next and why?
-Right now, I think VE is doing a good job of causing chaos and being a general distraction. I wouldn’t be adverse to him dying, regardless of his retardo jack claim. Palmar thought Ciryandor was scum, and now that we know it was coming from town Palmar, I give it weight.
-I want to see what information our modkills bring, plus the nightkills. I am hoping maybe one or two scum get flipped in the modkills or vig fire, then I can start looking for associations.
-I’m surprised Erandorr didn’t come under fire for his meta of refusing to play scum, and posting nil this game. I’ll be watching his replacement like a hawk.

Double Lynch tomorrow?
-Im all for a double lynch tomorrow. Less people shitting up this thread is good because I’m spending 3 hours catching up on this thread after I wake up, then a further couple of hours reading filters (/whine). On a more useful note, increasing our KP is a good idea. I find Jacks and Vigs far less reliable and am much more in favour of democratic scum killing then “I DON’T LIKE WHAT YOURE SAYING, ILL BLOW YOUR FACE OFF CHEESE” kind of ‘scum’ killing.

On another note:
-I asked GGQ a question, never got an answer. I can only assume he’s read it. His last post said “I’ve only read up to page 57”, and my question was on page 50. Id have really preferred the answer before Palmar was lynched. He’s ended up on Foolishes watch list, and his last post is defending someone on Foolishes scum list, so Ill be keeping an eye on this one for sure.


But it only spawned because I specifically asked him about it.

On January 17 2012 20:22 Adam4167 wrote:
So cheese, while you're around:

-You still think VE is scum? or just a townie that did dumb shit?
-What are your thoughts on Kenpachi and kingjames?
-Finally, what are your thoughts on me and Ech?


Why do you want my opinion on you?
If we were both town, How would that help us in any way shape or form?
It seems like an 'Am I hiding well?' type question.

On January 17 2012 19:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 19:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
after Sephirotharg in Wiggles mini mafia, I would prefer Chaosquo over Macpo, but I'm willing to swap I suppose.


Oh come on, that was fun ^^

Lets consolidate on Macpo for now, deal with Chaosquo at a later date.

##Vote: Macpo

Shutting down discussion on candidates other than Macpo? My vote is definitely not necessary if we want Macpo lynched.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:16 GMT
#2209
21 people didn't vote yet? how is that an arguement?

I don't go solely by information, there's a good case against him, prob better than the "he plays like a noob" macpo case. Plus the Chaos thing. He's an overall better package.

Whatever, lynch macpo, have him flip town, realize that the whole day was in vain, freeze in astonishment.

Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 17 2012 20:20 GMT
#2210
"Probably" and "whatever". That tells me all I need to know.
Cheese is good for you!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 17 2012 20:21 GMT
#2211
I'm beginning to think Macpo is town. JayJay is right in that there is an abundance of candidates scum could mislynch today, being settled on one so soon feels off.
Again, I refer back to Sephirotharg in Wiggles mini.

And a couple of brief points on L:
-He mentions that there are a lot of candidates, and few votes on the leaders, so to fix it, he adds himself as another candidate? Those 'cloaked kingmakers' aren't necessarily bad, it's town trying to sort the candidates for the most part.
-Asking VE if he was going to shoot me, scum was probably already talking about NK's at that point. If I was being shot, they wouldn't need to shoot me.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 17 2012 20:23 GMT
#2212
By the way, Jayjay. If you feel that way about our lynch, why the hell are you voting for a double lynch?
Cheese is good for you!
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 17 2012 20:23 GMT
#2213
I need sleep, just in case I oversleep, I'm happy with watching this guy bleed red.
##Vote Chaosquo
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 17 2012 20:24 GMT
#2214
Now I remember why I hate large games...

Holy shit this town has no direction.

Must kill:

Bill Murray
Lanaia
Toadesstern
Meapak
Scamp
Bumatlarge

Should probably kill:

Jackal
Sandro
L
Protactinium

Bill Murray should die today. The case on macpo is weak to me but he's receiving a ton of suspicion so he might as well flip so we don't waste more time on him.

Once these players are dead there's probably half the mafia team hiding among noob lurkers.

Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:25 GMT
#2215
On January 18 2012 05:20 Scamp wrote:
"Probably" and "whatever". That tells me all I need to know.


haha. damn that scumslip. you should build a case on that.

Do you really believe that 17 votes - 2 votes second candidate is something scums would tolerate that easily? scum is pushing for this and town i sheeping behind it. => towntell

The ONLY possible way that macpo flips red is that mafia is bussing him.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 17 2012 20:25 GMT
#2216
Oh kill that Adam guy too, he's been saying weird shit for days.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 17 2012 20:26 GMT
#2217
On January 18 2012 04:31 Jayjay54 wrote:
cheese, toad:

set a good example and unvote! maybe we can unite on someone to actually create a scecond lynch candidate? what are your thoughts?


you know damn well that I want to lynch sandroba but you know as well that noone is trusting me because I am willing to lynch a vet who is easily scum this game because of what he posted instead of lynching a bunch of noobs who are on the edge of being modkilled while noone really knows what their meta is. Afterall they're new to the game and I've seen plenty of bullshit coming from town-noobs as well.

I just don't think that we can get something else going right now. Checking vote-thread right now :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:28 GMT
#2218
On January 18 2012 05:23 Scamp wrote:
By the way, Jayjay. If you feel that way about our lynch, why the hell are you voting for a double lynch?


because I think there is an abundance of lynch candidates.

sandro, BC, chaos, ggq.

a double lynch also enchances the chances of lynching an established player. e.g if today was a double lynch the race for the second place would be REALLY interesting.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 17 2012 20:30 GMT
#2219
BC back to share who he mason'd with yet? Or gonna try and avoid that request?
If Mapco is getting modkilled i will ##vote: Chaosquo
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 17 2012 20:31 GMT
#2220
On January 18 2012 05:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
Now I remember why I hate large games...

Holy shit this town has no direction.

Must kill:

Bill Murray - probably, since he's in an office I'd say he's "should probably kill" instead
Lanaia - that's bullshit imo
Toadesstern that IS bullshit
Meapak agree
Scamp same as GGQ and Macpo imo
Bumatlarge agree

Should probably kill:

Jackal disagree
Sandro this guy needs to be in must kill
L same as sandro
Protactinium same as sandro

Bill Murray should die today. The case on macpo is weak to me but he's receiving a ton of suspicion so he might as well flip so we don't waste more time on him.

Once these players are dead there's probably half the mafia team hiding among noob lurkers.



Judging on how much we think differently I'd say you're a probably kill as well. You're just wrong way too often
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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