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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 16:26 GMT
#2161
On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray


why is that risky? what did convince you?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 17 2012 16:30 GMT
#2162
I just realised, you conveniently left out the context. No wonder I don't remember thinking Macpo was town.

On January 17 2012 19:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
after Sephirotharg in Wiggles mini mafia, I would prefer Chaosquo over Macpo, but I'm willing to swap I suppose.

The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
January 17 2012 16:31 GMT
#2163
C_C, you said in you're post:

On January 17 2012 19:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh yeah, as scum I'd never had more fun in my life than that mislynch
poor guy

But alright-
##Unvote
##Vote Macpo


I might have read it wrong. Can you elaborate?
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 17 2012 16:33 GMT
#2164
On January 18 2012 01:31 Jitsu wrote:
C_C, you said in you're post:

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 19:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh yeah, as scum I'd never had more fun in my life than that mislynch
poor guy

But alright-
##Unvote
##Vote Macpo


I might have read it wrong. Can you elaborate?

On January 17 2012 19:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
after Sephirotharg in Wiggles mini mafia, I would prefer Chaosquo over Macpo, but I'm willing to swap I suppose.

[/QUOTE]
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
January 17 2012 16:34 GMT
#2165
On January 18 2012 01:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I just realised, you conveniently left out the context. No wonder I don't remember thinking Macpo was town.

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 19:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
after Sephirotharg in Wiggles mini mafia, I would prefer Chaosquo over Macpo, but I'm willing to swap I suppose.




Ohhhhhh, nevermind.

I didn't know you were referencing back to another game. I thought you we're saying something else. My bad.

Also, leave the bolded out. It achieves nothing.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 16:35 GMT
#2166
On January 18 2012 01:31 Jitsu wrote:
C_C, you said in you're post:

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 19:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh yeah, as scum I'd never had more fun in my life than that mislynch
poor guy

But alright-
##Unvote
##Vote Macpo


I might have read it wrong. Can you elaborate?


They were discussing macpo and someone mentionted sephy from another game. that was the context. so yeah, you misread. go apologize
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 17 2012 16:36 GMT
#2167
On January 18 2012 01:26 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray


why is that risky? what did convince you?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=108#2141
And please, call me nuke.
risk is more similar to a clantag so it would be more correct and make it easier for me since people use the word "risk" quite alot in mafia.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2168
On January 18 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:26 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray


why is that risky? what did convince you?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=108#2141
And please, call me nuke.
risk is more similar to a clantag so it would be more correct and make it easier for me since people use the word "risk" quite alot in mafia.


fail on my part, sorry mr nuke
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2169
On January 18 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:26 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray


why is that risky? what did convince you?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=108#2141
And please, call me nuke.
risk is more similar to a clantag so it would be more correct and make it easier for me since people use the word "risk" quite alot in mafia.


fail on my part, sorry mr nuke

No harm done
What do you think of Bill Murray?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 17 2012 16:47 GMT
#2170
On January 18 2012 01:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Votes for Macpo (15)
Protactinium
Foolishness
Bill Murray
Scamp
Jitsu
Meapak_Ziphh
evantrees
Lanaia
bumatlarge
rgTheSchworz
Adam4167
Cyber_Cheese
Toadesstern
glurio
rtgICEMAN

Votes for sandroba (2)
hiro protagonist
Kenpachi

Votes for GGQ (1)
sandroba

Votes for Protactinium (3)
Nisani201
risk.nuke
~OpZ~

Votes for Bill Murray (1)
wherebugsgo

Votes for Kenpachi (1)
BrownBear

Votes for Jackal58 (2)
bumatlarge
BloodyC0bbler

Votes for L (2)
kitaman27
kingjames01

Hey good, we’re finally agreeing on something.

Is it though?

There has never been so much agreement in a mafia game ever. It is the best bandwagon ever. And so convenient. He made some newbie posts and everybody is pointing at him. Mafia is just leaning back and letting us lynch the noob. There is no interference whatsoever. Either mafia has chosen to let him just die or he’s freaking newb townie! This will simply be mislynch.

Even worse, we’ll get ZERO information from a possible mislynch. Nada. “Hey everybody was agreeing. Yay. Let’s lynch him”. We’ll be as smart as we were before.

I realize that, I won’t get my BC vote…and not even sandrobar. But if we take a “lesser” player, let’s pick GGQ or chaos. If we mislynch here, we get information regarding sandros and chaos alignment.

Wake the fuck up, tow!

##Vote: GGQ


For now….if there is someone else gathering more votes, I’ll reconsider, because I think that mac is the wrong choice. No gain, mislynch and no information at all.

I have two problems with this.
1) Mafia could be bussing.
2) You pointing it out is a defence

However, what you say could carry weight, and at any rate he hasn't posted since page 80 so he might be eligible for a modkill today, and that really would be a waste of a lynch.
If people are up for Chaosquo lynch, I will swap back. I'd rather give GGQ longer and hope he comes back, or vig him.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 16:50 GMT
#2171
On January 18 2012 01:44 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:26 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray


why is that risky? what did convince you?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=108#2141
And please, call me nuke.
risk is more similar to a clantag so it would be more correct and make it easier for me since people use the word "risk" quite alot in mafia.


fail on my part, sorry mr nuke

No harm done
What do you think of Bill Murray?


I certainly think that at least one of the three mayor candidates is scum. The vote had so little interference. Furthermore, I think hydra is town.

=> BM and/or BC scum.

What I think of BC is common knowledge.

BMs latest action made no sense, you got a point there. The thing is, they make no sense from a scum perspective either. Even as a scum sheriff there's no reason to waste a jailtown without reason. He basically acted like a mad scientist and is probably gone insane or trolling. I don't know about scum though, because, like I said, those actions were neither town nor scum favoured.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 16:59 GMT
#2172
On January 18 2012 01:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
Votes for Macpo (15)
Protactinium
Foolishness
Bill Murray
Scamp
Jitsu
Meapak_Ziphh
evantrees
Lanaia
bumatlarge
rgTheSchworz
Adam4167
Cyber_Cheese
Toadesstern
glurio
rtgICEMAN

Votes for sandroba (2)
hiro protagonist
Kenpachi

Votes for GGQ (1)
sandroba

Votes for Protactinium (3)
Nisani201
risk.nuke
~OpZ~

Votes for Bill Murray (1)
wherebugsgo

Votes for Kenpachi (1)
BrownBear

Votes for Jackal58 (2)
bumatlarge
BloodyC0bbler

Votes for L (2)
kitaman27
kingjames01

Hey good, we’re finally agreeing on something.

Is it though?

There has never been so much agreement in a mafia game ever. It is the best bandwagon ever. And so convenient. He made some newbie posts and everybody is pointing at him. Mafia is just leaning back and letting us lynch the noob. There is no interference whatsoever. Either mafia has chosen to let him just die or he’s freaking newb townie! This will simply be mislynch.

Even worse, we’ll get ZERO information from a possible mislynch. Nada. “Hey everybody was agreeing. Yay. Let’s lynch him”. We’ll be as smart as we were before.

I realize that, I won’t get my BC vote…and not even sandrobar. But if we take a “lesser” player, let’s pick GGQ or chaos. If we mislynch here, we get information regarding sandros and chaos alignment.

Wake the fuck up, tow!

##Vote: GGQ


For now….if there is someone else gathering more votes, I’ll reconsider, because I think that mac is the wrong choice. No gain, mislynch and no information at all.

I have two problems with this.
1) Mafia could be bussing.
2) You pointing it out is a defence

However, what you say could carry weight, and at any rate he hasn't posted since page 80 so he might be eligible for a modkill today, and that really would be a waste of a lynch.
If people are up for Chaosquo lynch, I will swap back. I'd rather give GGQ longer and hope he comes back, or vig him.


1) yup that's possible. How sure are you though that macpo is scum and not newb? His play has been basically how to not play mafia. If you take newb out of the equation, his case is not stronger than GGQ or chaos.
2) So you're saying I am scum and try to get him out of there? Macpo is the one and only player so far who made a (very clumsy) case against me...if that's not enough, look at my filter and judge me based on my actions.

I'd be up for Chaos. If he flips red, chances are high that GGQ is scum too, since he both softdefended GGQ and cyri. We'd get a lot more benefit from his lynch than from macpo.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 17 2012 17:01 GMT
#2173
On January 18 2012 01:50 Jayjay54 wrote:
BMs latest action made no sense, you got a point there. The thing is, they make no sense from a scum perspective either. Even as a scum sheriff there's no reason to waste a jailtown without reason. He basically acted like a mad scientist and is probably gone insane or trolling. I don't know about scum though, because, like I said, those actions were neither town nor scum favoured.

What would you expect a scum sheriff to do? No point keeping the jailings for an open roleclaim because you'd just get lynched for it, so the obvious choice is to go blue-hunting.

The nightkills certainly look like blue hunting to me, so it fits.

BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 17 2012 17:02 GMT
#2174

On January 17 2012 12:35 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok, guys, I've passed on the names of the BGs to the 2 masons that masoned me
the other guy townslipped in PMs with me


Can we have your reasoning behind why you did this? It seems pretty reckless.

SUNSFANNED
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 17 2012 17:03 GMT
#2175
On January 18 2012 01:50 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:26 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray


why is that risky? what did convince you?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=108#2141
And please, call me nuke.
risk is more similar to a clantag so it would be more correct and make it easier for me since people use the word "risk" quite alot in mafia.


fail on my part, sorry mr nuke

No harm done
What do you think of Bill Murray?


I certainly think that at least one of the three mayor candidates is scum. The vote had so little interference. Furthermore, I think hydra is town.

=> BM and/or BC scum.

What I think of BC is common knowledge.

BMs latest action made no sense, you got a point there. The thing is, they make no sense from a scum perspective either. Even as a scum sheriff there's no reason to waste a jailtown without reason. He basically acted like a mad scientist and is probably gone insane or trolling. I don't know about scum though, because, like I said, those actions were neither town nor scum favoured.

Wrong. while you could argue whether his motive makes sense for scum or town, they were in the end were scum favored.

If he were scum: Using the power on a townie hoping to block a possible heal/check but also wasting one use which means we can not use it in a later situation. Possibly in a town controlled way. Say when we get confirmed townies we want to protect.

If he were Town: Why would he use it on lanaia after arguing she is scum. Blocking potential dt checks or vig hits for the slim chance of actually preventing a mafia move. Consider it's probably just roleblocker and framer who would suffer from it. Godfather Goon and Mason nothing happens. And the jack is limited use anyway.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 17:04 GMT
#2176
On January 18 2012 02:01 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:50 Jayjay54 wrote:
BMs latest action made no sense, you got a point there. The thing is, they make no sense from a scum perspective either. Even as a scum sheriff there's no reason to waste a jailtown without reason. He basically acted like a mad scientist and is probably gone insane or trolling. I don't know about scum though, because, like I said, those actions were neither town nor scum favoured.

What would you expect a scum sheriff to do? No point keeping the jailings for an open roleclaim because you'd just get lynched for it, so the obvious choice is to go blue-hunting.

The nightkills certainly look like blue hunting to me, so it fits.



Hmm. valid point. He also made his own setup by putting her on his scum list with little reason (I think he claimed meta or so).

also his weird, "I think I saved her".

In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 17:07 GMT
#2177
On January 18 2012 02:03 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 01:50 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:26 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray


why is that risky? what did convince you?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=108#2141
And please, call me nuke.
risk is more similar to a clantag so it would be more correct and make it easier for me since people use the word "risk" quite alot in mafia.


fail on my part, sorry mr nuke

No harm done
What do you think of Bill Murray?


I certainly think that at least one of the three mayor candidates is scum. The vote had so little interference. Furthermore, I think hydra is town.

=> BM and/or BC scum.

What I think of BC is common knowledge.

BMs latest action made no sense, you got a point there. The thing is, they make no sense from a scum perspective either. Even as a scum sheriff there's no reason to waste a jailtown without reason. He basically acted like a mad scientist and is probably gone insane or trolling. I don't know about scum though, because, like I said, those actions were neither town nor scum favoured.

Wrong. while you could argue whether his motive makes sense for scum or town, they were in the end were scum favored.

If he were scum: Using the power on a townie hoping to block a possible heal/check but also wasting one use which means we can not use it in a later situation. Possibly in a town controlled way. Say when we get confirmed townies we want to protect.

If he were Town: Why would he use it on lanaia after arguing she is scum. Blocking potential dt checks or vig hits for the slim chance of actually preventing a mafia move. Consider it's probably just roleblocker and framer who would suffer from it. Godfather Goon and Mason nothing happens. And the jack is limited use anyway.


yea. Already posted above. Might support a lynch. Will think about it a little more.

Fact: A sheriff using his jailtimes that weird is not an effective role either way.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 17 2012 17:19 GMT
#2178
Has BC already told us who he masoned? I'd like to know if his claim is right. He doesn't have to tell us what he is doing in pm-land but is telling us the name of his "target" something that could backfire something? I can't see how that could do harm at all, but it could tell the rest of us a little bit about him because if the guy he is masoning tells us that's correct that's at least something.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 17 2012 17:20 GMT
#2179
On January 18 2012 02:04 Jayjay54 wrote:
In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting

Given the low vote count on the three main candidates (32 votes, 10 scum), it looks implausible that a mafia didn't get elected unless they really weren't trying. It's quite possible that mafia even spread their votes between (scum) BM and (town) BC on the basis that BC was going to lynch Protactinium or Palmar.

Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 17:26 GMT
#2180
On January 18 2012 02:20 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 02:04 Jayjay54 wrote:
In conclusion, town fucked up big time voting

Given the low vote count on the three main candidates (32 votes, 10 scum), it looks implausible that a mafia didn't get elected unless they really weren't trying. It's quite possible that mafia even spread their votes between (scum) BM and (town) BC on the basis that BC was going to lynch Protactinium or Palmar.



yup that's how I feel. except that I don't think BC is town. BC/BM scum is possible and quite horrible as well.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
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