On November 23 2011 01:52 Linwelin wrote:
Did they play against a Korean on stage?
Did they play against a Korean on stage?
I think the point is that Flo vs Jinro would have probably been a better mainstage match than Julia vs LosirA
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:52 Linwelin wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 01:47 CreeDo wrote: That being said, let's not kid ourselves; she's getting attention as a diamond (she is a diamond yes?) because she is fairly attractive. There are definitely girls in the masters league and I bet there are girls who were playing at MLG Prov against some pretty famous names whose level of play far surpassed this girl, but got skipped over because they were typical girl gamers. Did they play against a Korean on stage? I think the point is that Flo vs Jinro would have probably been a better mainstage match than Julia vs LosirA | ||
SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On November 23 2011 02:01 MennoHermit wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 01:57 Linwelin wrote: Thanks for pointing that out, I'm sure no one else noticed It's obviously bothering people, why isn't it deleted then? The fact that it got a warning is a joke and only happened because he isn't a "known". But w/e. Hope to see more of her in the future, just want a single girl to actually put in the effort and 8 hours to become a pro, I don't think anyone has even tried yet. | ||
hunts
United States2113 Posts
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
That's life though. | ||
mechavoc
United States664 Posts
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On November 23 2011 02:21 Treemonkeys wrote: I can see why this irritates some guys, I mean there are master and grandmaster players showing up to MLGs, hoping to make a name for themselves, and putting in more effort than this girl if results are any indicator....and then a pretty girl in diamond shows up, gets a main stage game against Losira, and then interviews. That's life though. Themz the breaks. Atleast after her loss to Losira she won a couple times in the losers bracket before getting knocked out. She may have got wrecked by Losira but there was obviously a few people who couldn't beat her. Going to your first live event to compete is such an experience for any gamer. People also need to learn how to market themselves Being a girl obviously helps but there are thousands of males trying to be a gamer, it's harder to get known... make a name for yourself and then work from there. In all honesty, I never realized how many people neglect to think about the opening rounds of a OPEN tourney. Ignorance is bliss, I guess. | ||
laoji
United Kingdom382 Posts
true gamer right there =D | ||
captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
On November 22 2011 19:01 fezvez wrote: Two things : First of all, it's extremely helpful that the OP states what are the questions, and when I can find them in the video. Thanks a lot! Then, on a less positive note : In the name of common sense, and in light of the very recently highlighted article by iNcontrol, especially at that part + Show Spoiler + C. Moderate. TL is often regarded as too harsh... I don't think it's harsh enough. Don't just close a thread mocking a player, delete it. That closed thread can still be found. Actively upvote and downvote on Reddit.. there is a lot of really dumb stuff that makes it far (sometimes) on reddit. As such, most of the community regards Reddit as a silly place where no real discussion is had. But that is home to a lot of people who WANT that place to be taken serious... be an active part of that! Jokes are great, poking fun at players and people is fine and good but taking it to extreme levels shouldn't be allowed to passively happen.. do something about it. I used TL and Reddit as examples but there are countless places where SC2 is discussed.. clean up your youtube comments, block trolls on twitter and ignore them... ban all the hate you can find in your stream chat. If we can clean up this community by 1% we have made the SC2 world a better place for everyone. I do hope you get banned. + Show Spoiler + Or there's a joke I'm missing, but it does sound like a bad joke Edit : + Show Spoiler + OK, english is not my first language, I just googled that magnificent expression, and I have to say that I am properly stupefied by the fact that this is supposedly a compliment >< Its hilarious that you quote incontrol, the guy who made this joke in the first place, when trying to explain why this joke is un funny | ||
Dekoth
United States527 Posts
How about a little consistency around here people? As for the interview. Decent enough I suppose. Always a good thing to see more women trying to break in. I hope it was just nerves bugging her because all the pauses and uh's and such leave a pretty bad impression on her public speaking ability. I appreciate the fact that she pretty candidly admits that being a girl gives her an advantage in stream viewers and such. I hope she can back her words though and get good enough to be up there with the pro's and isn't yet another "1 hit wonder". | ||
SkeweredFromEarToEye
Canada19 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On November 23 2011 02:55 SkeweredFromEarToEye wrote: Female-only tournaments? Lawl. If women are all for equality, then how about they fucking prove that they're worth being treated as equals? We are not all born equals in this world. If you truly believe that, then you're delusional. There's a difference between "treating" someone as an equal, and actually being equal. In having female-only tournaments, you're basically conceding to the fact that females can't keep up with males within the context of a pro-gaming environment. Since over the time it has been proven that in esports female players are not able to compete with top male players why would you randomly throw in equality? From an objective point of view a girl achieving a result in esports is more worthy than a guy with the same result. I am pretty sure most female players agree on this and there's a reason 100% of the top players in SC2 are guys. Honestly having female tournaments only harms no one and makes esports more interesting, and if any random grandmaster guy is pissed they don't get the same attention as a diamond girl then they better work their ass off to get to a point where they deserve to be recognized rather than crying. tldr: dont make random statements about girls claiming to be equal to guys in esports when nobody ever said so. | ||
esla_sol
United States756 Posts
i dont want to live on this planet anymore etc etc when it happened i couldnt believe it. | ||
iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On November 23 2011 02:49 Bonkarooni wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2011 19:01 fezvez wrote: Two things : First of all, it's extremely helpful that the OP states what are the questions, and when I can find them in the video. Thanks a lot! Then, on a less positive note : On November 22 2011 18:05 CaptainHaz wrote: I'd pee in her butt. In the name of common sense, and in light of the very recently highlighted article by iNcontrol, especially at that part + Show Spoiler + C. Moderate. TL is often regarded as too harsh... I don't think it's harsh enough. Don't just close a thread mocking a player, delete it. That closed thread can still be found. Actively upvote and downvote on Reddit.. there is a lot of really dumb stuff that makes it far (sometimes) on reddit. As such, most of the community regards Reddit as a silly place where no real discussion is had. But that is home to a lot of people who WANT that place to be taken serious... be an active part of that! Jokes are great, poking fun at players and people is fine and good but taking it to extreme levels shouldn't be allowed to passively happen.. do something about it. I used TL and Reddit as examples but there are countless places where SC2 is discussed.. clean up your youtube comments, block trolls on twitter and ignore them... ban all the hate you can find in your stream chat. If we can clean up this community by 1% we have made the SC2 world a better place for everyone. I do hope you get banned. + Show Spoiler + Or there's a joke I'm missing, but it does sound like a bad joke Edit : + Show Spoiler + OK, english is not my first language, I just googled that magnificent expression, and I have to say that I am properly stupefied by the fact that this is supposedly a compliment >< Its hilarious that you quote incontrol, the guy who made this joke in the first place, when trying to explain why this joke is un funny I didn't make this joke... it was a comment directed at anna (my gf) in one of her videos on youtube. | ||
VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On November 23 2011 03:09 aTnClouD wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 02:55 SkeweredFromEarToEye wrote: Female-only tournaments? Lawl. If women are all for equality, then how about they fucking prove that they're worth being treated as equals? We are not all born equals in this world. If you truly believe that, then you're delusional. There's a difference between "treating" someone as an equal, and actually being equal. In having female-only tournaments, you're basically conceding to the fact that females can't keep up with males within the context of a pro-gaming environment. Since over the time it has been proven that in esports female players are not able to compete with top male players why would you randomly throw in equality? From an objective point of view a girl achieving a result in esports is more worthy than a guy with the same result. I am pretty sure most female players agree on this and there's a reason 100% of the top players in SC2 are guys. Honestly having female tournaments only harms no one and makes esports more interesting, and if any random grandmaster guy is pissed they don't get the same attention as a diamond girl then they better work their ass off to get to a point where they deserve to be recognized rather than crying. Actually, I don't see HOW it's been proven that girls can't compete at the same level as guys. In fact, scientific study has proven that women are actually better at multitasking than men are, which is an essential skill in Starcraft. I think it comes down to the fact that there are no women that commit to the game as much as the professional men do. It doesn't necessarily help with teams signing reportedly Diamond level players like SlayerS Eve, or Julia to CheckSix. Women are separated out in physical sports like Golf, Tennis, Swimming, Soccer, etc. because the female body is not as athletic as the male body, however in a game like Starcraft or Chess, there's no handicap from being a female, it's just the lack of effort put in by the "professional" females compared to the professional males. | ||
aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On November 23 2011 03:13 VirgilSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 03:09 aTnClouD wrote: On November 23 2011 02:55 SkeweredFromEarToEye wrote: Female-only tournaments? Lawl. If women are all for equality, then how about they fucking prove that they're worth being treated as equals? We are not all born equals in this world. If you truly believe that, then you're delusional. There's a difference between "treating" someone as an equal, and actually being equal. In having female-only tournaments, you're basically conceding to the fact that females can't keep up with males within the context of a pro-gaming environment. Since over the time it has been proven that in esports female players are not able to compete with top male players why would you randomly throw in equality? From an objective point of view a girl achieving a result in esports is more worthy than a guy with the same result. I am pretty sure most female players agree on this and there's a reason 100% of the top players in SC2 are guys. Honestly having female tournaments only harms no one and makes esports more interesting, and if any random grandmaster guy is pissed they don't get the same attention as a diamond girl then they better work their ass off to get to a point where they deserve to be recognized rather than crying. Actually, I don't see HOW it's been proven that girls can't compete at the same level as guys. In fact, scientific study has proven that women are actually better at multitasking than men are, which is an essential skill in Starcraft. I think it comes down to the fact that there are no women that commit to the game as much as the professional men do. It doesn't necessarily help with teams signing reportedly Diamond level players like SlayerS Eve, or Julia to CheckSix. Women are separated out in physical sports like Golf, Tennis, Swimming, Soccer, etc. because the female body is not as athletic as the male body, however in a game like Starcraft or Chess, there's no handicap from being a female, it's just the lack of effort put in by the "professional" females compared to the professional males. Putting effort in competing is the essential ability to become a top player in esports. Having a talent for multitasking only helps in the way. Your argument makes no sense to me, especially since the numbers obviously state that there's no top female player it's obvious to assume that, for whatever reason, the genders are not equal when it comes to esports. | ||
Telefonmann
Germany111 Posts
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CaptainHaz
United States240 Posts
On November 23 2011 03:13 iNcontroL wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 02:49 Bonkarooni wrote: On November 22 2011 19:01 fezvez wrote: Two things : First of all, it's extremely helpful that the OP states what are the questions, and when I can find them in the video. Thanks a lot! Then, on a less positive note : On November 22 2011 18:05 CaptainHaz wrote: I'd pee in her butt. In the name of common sense, and in light of the very recently highlighted article by iNcontrol, especially at that part + Show Spoiler + C. Moderate. TL is often regarded as too harsh... I don't think it's harsh enough. Don't just close a thread mocking a player, delete it. That closed thread can still be found. Actively upvote and downvote on Reddit.. there is a lot of really dumb stuff that makes it far (sometimes) on reddit. As such, most of the community regards Reddit as a silly place where no real discussion is had. But that is home to a lot of people who WANT that place to be taken serious... be an active part of that! Jokes are great, poking fun at players and people is fine and good but taking it to extreme levels shouldn't be allowed to passively happen.. do something about it. I used TL and Reddit as examples but there are countless places where SC2 is discussed.. clean up your youtube comments, block trolls on twitter and ignore them... ban all the hate you can find in your stream chat. If we can clean up this community by 1% we have made the SC2 world a better place for everyone. I do hope you get banned. + Show Spoiler + Or there's a joke I'm missing, but it does sound like a bad joke Edit : + Show Spoiler + OK, english is not my first language, I just googled that magnificent expression, and I have to say that I am properly stupefied by the fact that this is supposedly a compliment >< Its hilarious that you quote incontrol, the guy who made this joke in the first place, when trying to explain why this joke is un funny I didn't make this joke... it was a comment directed at anna (my gf) in one of her videos on youtube. I remember you presenting this as one of the extremes of how people perceive girls getting attention in the community. I just happened to see the clip a couple hours before this interview was posted thought it would be recognized fairly quickly. Obviously this was a mistake on my part. It was a joke people, does it make any sense that I would preface with comments regarding the interview and her articulation only to make a more retarded sounding remark? I got a warning, everyone can be happy now. Focus on how the attention that girl gamers are getting is actually a good thing as opposed to a sexist approach to esports. | ||
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