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On November 23 2011 00:06 Koshi wrote:
Stop white-knighting. There are no jokes that everybody find equally funny.
And I serious doubt that any female will take offense to that joke, in that context, in that post, with that spoiler. There might be some confusion first. Good thing people have eyes and can read the rest of the thread.
You are right that not all jokes are equally funny. But some jokes are not only not funny, they're also offensive.
I guarantee you there are females who would take offense to that. It's kind of silly to suggest otherwise. The context is rife for some to take offense, given that the topic is a (rare) female progamer and the first reaction is "pee in her butt." Few females would get the inside joke. Even if they do get it after reading the thread, it doesn't necessarily take away the offensiveness since again it's possible for jokes to be offensive.
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On November 22 2011 21:58 HoldenR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 21:30 trucane wrote:What I find hilarious is all the complain about sexism comments when the only reason she is getting all the attention in the first place is because she is female and good looking. It goes both ways you know  This times one hundred. I find it hilarious that she was asked "do you think females get unwarranted attention online?" when this thread only exists because she's a girl. Where are the interviews with the hundred other diamond players who played at providence? Oh, that's right, they don't exist because nobody cares about them or remembers their name. And half the comments in this thread are about how pretty or cute she is, to the great pride of TL's male userbase. Props to her for having the courage to actually do this, though. I can imagine that not only the negative attention, but also the enlightened TL posters who will claim to be a fan of you just because you have breasts, will eventually be bothersome if not intimidating enough to get a girl to never participate in a tournament.
I imagine that if a male diamond player played against Losira on the main stage of the national championship tournament, he would also be interviewed, and a thread would have been made. Her games vs Losira on the main stage are the main reason she caught anyone's attention. Yes, she is a female so she ended up receiving more of it than a male would, but these interviews wouldn't be here if she hadn't been thrust into that situation.
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I really wish I were mod right now... So I could -Nuked- the first post...
Anyways, GO AILUJ~! Stream dem games!
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On November 23 2011 00:37 SecondSandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 21:58 HoldenR wrote:On November 22 2011 21:30 trucane wrote:What I find hilarious is all the complain about sexism comments when the only reason she is getting all the attention in the first place is because she is female and good looking. It goes both ways you know This times one hundred. I find it hilarious that she was asked "do you think females get unwarranted attention online?" when this thread only exists because she's a girl. Where are the interviews with the hundred other diamond players who played at providence? Oh, that's right, they don't exist because nobody cares about them or remembers their name. And half the comments in this thread are about how pretty or cute she is, to the great pride of TL's male userbase. Props to her for having the courage to actually do this, though. I can imagine that not only the negative attention, but also the enlightened TL posters who will claim to be a fan of you just because you have breasts, will eventually be bothersome if not intimidating enough to get a girl to never participate in a tournament. I imagine that if a male diamond player played against Losira on the main stage of the national championship tournament, he would also be interviewed, and a thread would have been made. Her games vs Losira on the main stage are the main reason she caught anyone's attention. Yes, she is a female so she ended up receiving more of it than a male would, but these interviews wouldn't be here if she hadn't been thrust into that situation.
where are the interviews with the diamond guy who almost took a game of puzzle on stage? 
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On November 23 2011 00:35 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 00:06 Koshi wrote:
Stop white-knighting. There are no jokes that everybody find equally funny.
And I serious doubt that any female will take offense to that joke, in that context, in that post, with that spoiler. There might be some confusion first. Good thing people have eyes and can read the rest of the thread. You are right that not all jokes are equally funny. But some jokes are not only not funny, they're also offensive. I guarantee you there are females who would take offense to that. It's kind of silly to suggest otherwise. The context is rife for some to take offense, given that the topic is a (rare) female progamer and the first reaction is "pee in her butt." Few females would get the inside joke. Even if they do get it after reading the thread, it doesn't necessarily take away the offensiveness since again it's possible for jokes to be offensive. Yeah, forget females: I'm male, and I found it very distasteful and not the least bit funny. Its being a reference to an equally distasteful, non-funny joke doesn't change that.
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Good interview ! By the way, she must be some member of Dustin Browder family, riiiiiiiight ?
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To me StarCraft/BW is like a Colosseum where nerds fight to the death. I am one of the people who watches the whole tournament. I'm happy she got on stage, she got to see how much she needs to improve, which is great for anyone and everyone. And LosirA is a pretty nice guy, if I wanted anyone to smash me in my nerd brain, I think I'd want it to be him too.
gg Julia. I'm sure you'll be in Masters/ or even Grandmasters in the future, one thing I did notice is you haven't setup your hotkeys yet, set them up so you don't have to move your right hand so far each time, you lost half your apm just because of moving your hand so much.
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On November 23 2011 00:06 Koshi wrote:
Stop white-knighting. There are no jokes that everybody find equally funny.
And I serious doubt that any female will take offense to that joke, in that context, in that post, with that spoiler. There might be some confusion first. Good thing people have eyes and can read the rest of the thread.
Even reading the spoiler, I still had no idea how it related to SOTG. That it took several pages to explain it in context says something I think...
I just hope it doesn't become some meme when where every new female gamer is greeted with:
+ Show Spoiler +I'd pee in her butt, too
<3 State of the Game
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Stop talking about the joke. Start talking about the interview.
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On November 22 2011 19:01 fezvez wrote:Two things : First of all, it's extremely helpful that the OP states what are the questions, and when I can find them in the video. Thanks a lot! Then, on a less positive note : In the name of common sense, and in light of the very recently highlighted article by iNcontrol, especially at that part + Show Spoiler +C. Moderate. TL is often regarded as too harsh... I don't think it's harsh enough. Don't just close a thread mocking a player, delete it. That closed thread can still be found. Actively upvote and downvote on Reddit.. there is a lot of really dumb stuff that makes it far (sometimes) on reddit. As such, most of the community regards Reddit as a silly place where no real discussion is had. But that is home to a lot of people who WANT that place to be taken serious... be an active part of that! Jokes are great, poking fun at players and people is fine and good but taking it to extreme levels shouldn't be allowed to passively happen.. do something about it. I used TL and Reddit as examples but there are countless places where SC2 is discussed.. clean up your youtube comments, block trolls on twitter and ignore them... ban all the hate you can find in your stream chat. If we can clean up this community by 1% we have made the SC2 world a better place for everyone. I do hope you get banned. + Show Spoiler +Or there's a joke I'm missing, but it does sound like a bad joke Edit : + Show Spoiler +OK, english is not my first language, I just googled that magnificent expression, and I have to say that I am properly stupefied by the fact that this is supposedly a compliment ><
Lol, it is a joke. A joke InControl made himself on State of the Game, thus his spoiler below that comment.
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On November 23 2011 00:34 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 00:20 bruteMax wrote:
If MLG does come to canada in 2012, Montreal should get it without question.
Who cares if there are 10 GMs in the Vancouver area? Huk, Slush, Kiwikaki and TT1(?) are from Montreal. facepalm. why do you post stuff like this if you have no idea where they live...
I didn't say where they live. Don't get so butthurt.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On November 23 2011 00:37 SecondSandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 21:58 HoldenR wrote:On November 22 2011 21:30 trucane wrote:What I find hilarious is all the complain about sexism comments when the only reason she is getting all the attention in the first place is because she is female and good looking. It goes both ways you know This times one hundred. I find it hilarious that she was asked "do you think females get unwarranted attention online?" when this thread only exists because she's a girl. Where are the interviews with the hundred other diamond players who played at providence? Oh, that's right, they don't exist because nobody cares about them or remembers their name. And half the comments in this thread are about how pretty or cute she is, to the great pride of TL's male userbase. Props to her for having the courage to actually do this, though. I can imagine that not only the negative attention, but also the enlightened TL posters who will claim to be a fan of you just because you have breasts, will eventually be bothersome if not intimidating enough to get a girl to never participate in a tournament. I imagine that if a male diamond player played against Losira on the main stage of the national championship tournament, he would also be interviewed, and a thread would have been made. Her games vs Losira on the main stage are the main reason she caught anyone's attention. Yes, she is a female so she ended up receiving more of it than a male would, but these interviews wouldn't be here if she hadn't been thrust into that situation.
I personally think it is less that she is a female and more that she is the first female on the main stage ever.
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When she said that she was sad while at Disneyland on the SC2 release-day...
+ Show Spoiler +...I knew that her passion was real. Admirable nerd-ballery.
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I think I'm one of the many ESPORTS fans that now officially has a crush on Julia.
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bags under her eyes even despite make up.
Shes legit yo
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Why is no one else mind blown that her name is Julia Child(res)s.
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On November 23 2011 00:42 Kira__ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 00:37 SecondSandwich wrote:On November 22 2011 21:58 HoldenR wrote:On November 22 2011 21:30 trucane wrote:What I find hilarious is all the complain about sexism comments when the only reason she is getting all the attention in the first place is because she is female and good looking. It goes both ways you know This times one hundred. I find it hilarious that she was asked "do you think females get unwarranted attention online?" when this thread only exists because she's a girl. Where are the interviews with the hundred other diamond players who played at providence? Oh, that's right, they don't exist because nobody cares about them or remembers their name. And half the comments in this thread are about how pretty or cute she is, to the great pride of TL's male userbase. Props to her for having the courage to actually do this, though. I can imagine that not only the negative attention, but also the enlightened TL posters who will claim to be a fan of you just because you have breasts, will eventually be bothersome if not intimidating enough to get a girl to never participate in a tournament. I imagine that if a male diamond player played against Losira on the main stage of the national championship tournament, he would also be interviewed, and a thread would have been made. Her games vs Losira on the main stage are the main reason she caught anyone's attention. Yes, she is a female so she ended up receiving more of it than a male would, but these interviews wouldn't be here if she hadn't been thrust into that situation. where are the interviews with the diamond guy who almost took a game of puzzle on stage?
Nikoras? The poor observing made it look like he almost took a game off Puzzle, but in reality it wasn't even close.
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On November 23 2011 00:59 mizU wrote:
Why is no one else mind blown that her name is Julia Child(res)s.
You trying to say she'd be good in the kitchen?
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On November 23 2011 01:03 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 00:42 Kira__ wrote:On November 23 2011 00:37 SecondSandwich wrote:On November 22 2011 21:58 HoldenR wrote:On November 22 2011 21:30 trucane wrote:What I find hilarious is all the complain about sexism comments when the only reason she is getting all the attention in the first place is because she is female and good looking. It goes both ways you know This times one hundred. I find it hilarious that she was asked "do you think females get unwarranted attention online?" when this thread only exists because she's a girl. Where are the interviews with the hundred other diamond players who played at providence? Oh, that's right, they don't exist because nobody cares about them or remembers their name. And half the comments in this thread are about how pretty or cute she is, to the great pride of TL's male userbase. Props to her for having the courage to actually do this, though. I can imagine that not only the negative attention, but also the enlightened TL posters who will claim to be a fan of you just because you have breasts, will eventually be bothersome if not intimidating enough to get a girl to never participate in a tournament. I imagine that if a male diamond player played against Losira on the main stage of the national championship tournament, he would also be interviewed, and a thread would have been made. Her games vs Losira on the main stage are the main reason she caught anyone's attention. Yes, she is a female so she ended up receiving more of it than a male would, but these interviews wouldn't be here if she hadn't been thrust into that situation. where are the interviews with the diamond guy who almost took a game of puzzle on stage? Nikoras? The poor observing made it look like he almost took a game off Puzzle, but in reality it wasn't even close.
A lot closer than Julia vs Losira
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Great interview, I like that you have short term goals that roll into your long term ones (and that they're practical).
Good luck with getting masters, keep gaming!
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