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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:33 prplhz wrote:
way to be totally fucking useless. you policy vote on a guy because you don't like him, what the fuck. you're ruining the game 100 times more than he is with your whining and calling for replacement.
Manner please. Regardless of his play or alignment lets keep things civil.
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This post from Day 1 stands out to me:
On September 17 2011 19:23 xtfftc wrote:
Also, none of the currently discussed lynch targets are viable. They are all easy ones. I'd rather go for a random lynch out of the remaining players.
". So no, I don't want to pick someone random. I said that I'd rather pick a random player out of the remaining 27 than one of these 3 because lynching them would give us absolutely nothing. "
From his second post. This is a very strange thing to say. How does lynching a random person give us 'more' than one of the 3 day 1 bandwagons? This makes sense if
A. He's scum trying to divert from the possibility of a teammate being lynched.
B. Is scum and implicitly knows none of those 3 candidates are mafia and thus would gives us "nothing".
I can't really make sense of that statement. I'll give xtfftc a chance to clarify his reasoning further.
I'm not happy with Jackal and WBG has been way way way way too active from the very beginning to be mafia.
Way too active from the beginning to be mafia? What does that mean. I've never heard that reason before. Plenty of scum have been active players since the beginning of day 1 in mafia games it happens all the time?
Now he's promising some sort of analysis on 3 players (kind of distracting, should narrow it down to one that he finds most convincing. An analysis that comes up with "I think they're town" is noise). Oddly enough, he starts it at night 1.
I find a lot of holes and mistakes in the logic and the longer posts don't really seem to be saying a lot and what does stand out from them are poor arguments and a sort of refusal to take a serious stance on anything.
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He was cut short as the figure planted a foot of jagged steel into his chest with a snarl.
“Letting your guards leave was a mistake, my Lord,” hissed a quiet voice beside his ear. Before he could respond, a hand roughly grabbed his hair and he felt steel sliding across his throat.
Unfortunately for him, the bitter end was now. He cried out as steel suddenly erupted through his stomach, twisting through his organs.
The Flavor Kill Text for all three.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
And keep in mind that there are players actively trying to bullshit and cause chaos. People seem to forget this when they get upset. Just straighten it out, call it out, and keep town on the right track. Most of all stay civil.
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On September 20 2011 09:43 Radfield wrote:
And keep in mind that there are players actively trying to bullshit and cause chaos. People seem to forget this when they get upset. Just straighten it out, call it out, and keep town on the right track. Most of all stay civil.
We get it. You're not the mod and posts like this are just BS attempts to appear helpful and pro town. I don't trust you.
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On September 20 2011 09:42 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +He was cut short as the figure planted a foot of jagged steel into his chest with a snarl. Show nested quote +“Letting your guards leave was a mistake, my Lord,” hissed a quiet voice beside his ear. Before he could respond, a hand roughly grabbed his hair and he felt steel sliding across his throat. Show nested quote +Unfortunately for him, the bitter end was now. He cried out as steel suddenly erupted through his stomach, twisting through his organs. The Flavor Kill Text for all three.
The most I can make of these is that WBG probally died from mafia kp, as the wording of the kill text was malicious in nature.
The other 2 kills have no such dialogue, and those could belong to scum or vig roles.
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Ahem since I do a terrible job explaining. The story is just pure flavour. The end of the post with the flips, that's the personalized kill flavour. Also on the OP where I strikethrough the dead players.
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I'm trying to decide who to lynch amongst jackal/igrok/ggq/on/palmar. We definitely should lynch one of these guys today because:
1) They are lurking hardcore and deliberately not helping town, even after being called out multiple times.
2) They are all people that can compose over 50% of a scum team.
3) Our day1 consisted of 3 town wagons and thus gave us shit, so let's get rid of the dead weight dragging us down.
4) Taking the above into consideration scum really did not have a reason to come out and fight any of the lynches, so their behaviour all fit it quite nicely.
I'm going to vote palmar unless he makes a briliant case and convince me someone else is scum.
##Vote: Palmar
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How about you just discredit everything I say? would that give you a sick thrill?
jk, thanks.
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EBWOP: above post is to curu.
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On September 20 2011 09:40 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Meant to preview not post Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I was not the same as you. I didn't feel confident in myself to make a strong case against you, not because I believed you.
Are you insinuating that after you saw my case against Erandorr you were thinking about making a case against me? That is certainly not what I get from this quote: Show nested quote + I knew it felt wrong, and I'll be the first to admit that I didn't feel confident enough in myself to argue against Radfield to try and stop it. This quote makes it sound as though you were only trying to stop a lynch on Erandorr, not make a case against me. Were you planning to argue to defend Erandorr because you thought he was town, or to attack me because you thought I was scum. Or both. Please explain. Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:27 JeeJee wrote:
I ran the message through some common ciphers.. got nowhere. It's too short for any analysis based approach so I figure it's best to forget about it until it comes to light again.
Will write up my thoughts on day 1 after I hit the gym.
Interestingly enough both radfield and I lived. It's a miracle =D Option 1: Lurk hardcare, make an absurdly scummy self vote to distract mafia. Option 2: Lead a lynch on a townie. Equally successful, but I'll take option 2 everytime  Please use your newfound Day 2 life effectively and show us why scum like to kill you day 1 
No, I meant I wasn't confident in making a case against your case, not against you.
A player with a "decent chance" to flip red is a fantastic day 1 lynch. If you want a number I would say I was 35-40% sure that Errandor would flip scum. That's about as strong as I ever get Day 1.
Makes enough sense. My Day 1 play has always been very poor, and it's something I want to work on. Plenty of stuff I still need to learn =)
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:43 Radfield wrote:
And keep in mind that there are players actively trying to bullshit and cause chaos. People seem to forget this when they get upset. Just straighten it out, call it out, and keep town on the right track. Most of all stay civil. We get it. You're not the mod and posts like this are just BS attempts to appear helpful and pro town. I don't trust you.
I have made plenty of posts which are helpful and pro-town. Never would I claim this is one of them. That post was made with a mindset outside the frame of the current game. Plenty of players get frustrated/ragequit while forgetting that there are a bunch of players trying to post stupid/aggressive/distracting/etc posts. Good manners in games is important to me. The internet can be an unfriendly place, as can TL, but in the mafia forum we try to play as friends.
Anyways, glad to hear you're suspicious of me. What are your reads now that WBG is dead?
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@radfield If you had to choose amongst the players I listed one to be lynched who would you choose and why.
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On September 20 2011 09:33 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:52 Navillus wrote:Hey guys I have to apologize for sucking so much by mistaking blue reads for red, I also have to apologize because I joined this at a terrible time and I have basically 0 free time, so I'm asking for a replacement, sorry  dude noone is good in their first game just do your best. i bet you're putting in more effort into this game than 2/3 of everybody else. come on man. Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:03 Jackal58 wrote:
My vote on Bugs stayed because I don't like him. Or more accurately I don't like how he plays. way to be totally fucking useless. you policy vote on a guy because you don't like him, what the fuck. you're ruining the game 100 times more than he is with your whining and calling for replacement. Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:27 JeeJee wrote:
I ran the message through some common ciphers.. got nowhere. It's too short for any analysis based approach so I figure it's best to forget about it until it comes to light again.
Will write up my thoughts on day 1 after I hit the gym.
Interestingly enough both radfield and I lived. It's a miracle =D one's a miracle, the other's a disaster. also i didn't get anything from the encoded string from caesar or from vigenere with random lotr related words.
Sadly this is much more than my first game, I just never seem to join at good times (or I'm just really busy and should stop trying in general).
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Also I forgot to add jeejee in there too. He is a valid target aswell.
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On September 20 2011 09:53 Curu wrote:
Ahem since I do a terrible job explaining. The story is just pure flavour. The end of the post with the flips, that's the personalized kill flavour. Also on the OP where I strikethrough the dead players.
Oh my bad, so flavor texts are:
Mr. Wiggles as Peregrin Took, Hobbit of the Fellowship, Town Messenger was stabbed through the chest night 1!
wherebugsgo as Denethor, Steward of Gondor, Vanilla Townie Miller had his throat slit night 1!
Ciryandor as Samwise Gamgee, Town Mason Bodyguard was put to the sword night 1!
I assume the way a certain player kills by will be similar so while we have nothing to go on now, we can compare later to see. Also want to say a my bad to prplhz.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:14 chaoser wrote:
Also want to say a my bad to prplhz.
I'll post my thoughts in a bit, but are you claiming the hit that caused his bodyguard to die or are you just saying sorry for pushing his lynch?
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:01 sandroba wrote:
@radfield If you had to choose amongst the players I listed one to be lynched who would you choose and why.
I'm off to bed Sandro and don't have the mental stamina to go through them all thoroughly. I'll give you a brief run down though:
Palmar will either start contributing or not. At this point he's basically inactive which is wildly out of his typical behaviour(whether scum OR town). His activity lvl is a null tell for me, but there are currently zero redeeming qualities from his posting. Not a particularly good lynch at the moment because of his activity level.
iGrok is scummy and would make a good lynch. Terrible voting, terrible reasons for voting, no lynch contributions. He also ignored my request for his reads and instead accused me of tunneling him.
GGQ is basically inactive as well. His posting is lacking but nothing jumps out at me. Similar boat to Palmar.
My thoughts on Jackal are above. White noise at first but is getting scummier as we go. Better lynch than most of the others.
At first I thought jeejee was just trying to look scummy to not draw a hit. However it appears he actually was inactive. Jeejee is good though, so if he doesn't produce today he should die. Please start talking Jeejee.
ON is also scummy and would make a good lynch. In fact, a quick glance through his posts moves him up to great lynch territory. Bad FoS on Navillus, lots of chippy posts, bad vote on prp then a bad swing to erandor for his edit. Frankly the bad swing helps him in my mind a bit given that mafia had no need to swing from prp to erandorr.
What are your reads on syllo, and chaos13? They fit more into what I'm looking for. Posting with little contribution, not to mention all both are vets as well.
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On September 20 2011 10:30 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 10:14 chaoser wrote:
Also want to say a my bad to prplhz. I'll post my thoughts in a bit, but are you claiming the hit that caused his bodyguard to die or are you just saying sorry for pushing his lynch?
For pushing his lynch. I over thought what he was saying and tunneled him.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
blech I never actually even answered your question...
Of those six I would lynch jackal, iGrok or ON most likely. Probably in that order. If you could do it right now is Palmar really you're pick to lynch of those 6?
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