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chaoser
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kitaman27
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On September 20 2011 10:48 chaoser wrote: Will you be posting your thoughts kitaman27? Yes. | ||
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kitaman27
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Palmar is contributing far less than I'm used to. This doesn't really match his town, nor scum meta. Last game in personality mafia, he was probably our most outspoken member and lead the town until a dt check got him lynched. Even so, there is no excuse to lurk even if it doesn't match his scum playstyle. Radfield is still alive, which automatically makes me weary considering his reputation. Sandroba, you called the day one lynch candidates completely horrible, yet you have failed to make a case for anyone else. It's real easy to say how awful people are without making a contribution yourself. You list the five names jackal/igrok/ggq/on/palmar and procede to vote Palmar. What makes Palmar stand out of those five? You say your vote is on Palmar unless someone convinces you with a case otherwise. How about you convince us with a case instead. DrH is playing far more defensive than normal. Now that you can't hide behind your third party suspicions, you will have to actually make a legit case on someone. I'm hoping to hear from you within the first half of the cycle. As I go through the player list, its not only the vets who aren't putting in enough effort. There are several players I'm having trouble remembering they are even in the game. Pyro, Drazerk, rayn, Vain, supersoft, GGQ. My lynch preference for today is chaos13. I'll share my case in a little bit. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 17 2011 09:57 kitaman27 wrote: sandroba, you mentioned you won't be around until Sunday. Will you be providing your opening thoughts today so you don't earn yourself a free pass in the day one lynch? Hey hey, as I was reading through the thread I noticed something strange. I saw this and thought "Where did Sandroba say he would be gone...?" Turns out he didn't. Neither did anyone else. At least, not in the thread. Where did this information come from then? From the mafia QT. When a player has extra information that they shouldn't have... ##Vote kitaman27 So when one of kita or sandroba flips scum, we've got another confirmed red to go after. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:11 chaos13 wrote: Hey hey, as I was reading through the thread I noticed something strange. I saw this and thought "Where did Sandroba say he would be gone...?" Turns out he didn't. Neither did anyone else. At least, not in the thread. Where did this information come from then? From the mafia QT. When a player has extra information that they shouldn't have... ##Vote kitaman27 So when one of kita or sandroba flips scum, we've got another confirmed red to go after. Hahahaha. Shaking in your boots? | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:13 kitaman27 wrote: Hahahaha. Shaking in your boots? Yeah of course, you mention my name and I piss myself in terror. I suppose I should give you a chance to explain yourself though. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:14 chaos13 wrote: Yeah of course, you mention my name and I piss myself in terror. I suppose I should give you a chance to explain yourself though. On September 17 2011 03:01 sandroba wrote: Hey I'll be with no internet access until sunday afternoon, will that be ok? | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
Sandroba's filter. I don't see that post there, I don't see any edited posts, and the word "sunday" does not come up when I ctrl+f. I are confused. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:20 chaos13 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264699&user=21688 Sandroba's filter. I don't see that post there, I don't see any edited posts, and the word "sunday" does not come up when I ctrl+f. I are confused. It's in the voting thread. Also it was in Ace's Some Mafia Game. Anyone in that game or following that game would have known that Ace paused the game to give sandroba time. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:20 chaos13 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264699&user=21688 Sandroba's filter. I don't see that post there, I don't see any edited posts, and the word "sunday" does not come up when I ctrl+f. I are confused. lol do you think I'm making that up or something? It's in the voting thread. But you knew very well sandroba publicly said he was going to be away. Or did you forget Ace pausing the game, which you were a part of and clearly following? Quit distracting me so I can write up a case :p You're welcome to share who your lynch preference is as well. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
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kitaman27
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chaos13
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
This is mostly based on most of them managing to lurk harder than me. Which saying alot I personally dont like the vibe i get off of iGrok/DrH. I avoided DrH yesterday because i was increadably unsure of WBG until later on and I decided based on the reasons i have stated to move over to Errandor. Pyo I even forgot was playing until about he a few posts one of which was chastising my FoS on Navillus which i by the way look back on and realize that I was being an idiot. His reasoning behind voting WBG basically went oh DrH said hes third party so im going to agree without posting my own contributions and uses this reasoning: Throw on top of that the potential that he's full of shit or that we might learn something about the game set-up/mechanics, I'm perfectly happy to see him flip Hes just adovacting a pure info lynch that really doesnt tell us jackshit in either case. Afterwords WBG then calls him out for the same thing I am he responds with this: way to not read my post and selectively bolded not my reason for voting for you – getting information is only icing on the cake... I'm voting for you because your indirect 3rd party claim is bizarre and distracting at best I dont see any bizarre third party claim, I see hints at it but it obviously wasnt what he had in mind. Sure he was trolling abit but this seems like a really weak line of reasoning, despite how we were starting to realize that he probably was not scum. He also does nothing BUT push WBG almost refusing to otherwise consider other candidates other than call out Archo_Toilet for being scummier than GGQ who he was voting however he basically did one post and another paragraph later and did not pursue it much farther. Along with that he has completely flown under the radar and iirc not many people have called him out. As such I will be. ##Vote Pyo + Show Spoiler + if im on the wrong track again for the love of god speak now. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
I would like everyone to keep in mind the rough idea of what happened day one: -prplhz/wbg/jackal as candidates, with erandorr coming up at the end to get lynched. wbg is town. prplhz is town. Now about erandorr, I think that radfield's intentions were good. I'm really uncomfortable writing that for some reason. There's something off about his posting that I can't quite put my finger on, but I shall sort it out in shadow. Shadow is good. I would say it is unlikely that there is no scum among the candidates considering what transpired. That leaves jackal. So clearly jackal is likely mafia. I'll leave it to someone else to write up how shitty his posts have been, I think that might come across as a little hypocritical coming from me. I'll just ##vote:jackal That's shinbi analysis for you folks. Good player? pshaw. | ||
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Jackal58
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If he didn't scream 3rd party to you you're lying. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:45 Jackal58 wrote: You guys think I'm scum because Bugs played a lame game? If he didn't scream 3rd party to you you're lying. No he screamed Im acting like an idiot then turning into someone whos acting slightly less like an idiot. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote: vig should claim their shot, unless they are multi-shot or have a good reason to hide. Unless there are a ton of blues, 4 mafia kp seems really unlikely. Of the hits, a prp hit blocked by cyr seems to be the one most likely coming from town. Palmar is contributing far less than I'm used to. This doesn't really match his town, nor scum meta. Last game in personality mafia, he was probably our most outspoken member and lead the town until a dt check got him lynched. Even so, there is no excuse to lurk even if it doesn't match his scum playstyle. Radfield is still alive, which automatically makes me weary considering his reputation. Sandroba, you called the day one lynch candidates completely horrible, yet you have failed to make a case for anyone else. It's real easy to say how awful people are without making a contribution yourself. You list the five names jackal/igrok/ggq/on/palmar and procede to vote Palmar. What makes Palmar stand out of those five? You say your vote is on Palmar unless someone convinces you with a case otherwise. How about you convince us with a case instead. DrH is playing far more defensive than normal. Now that you can't hide behind your third party suspicions, you will have to actually make a legit case on someone. I'm hoping to hear from you within the first half of the cycle. As I go through the player list, its not only the vets who aren't putting in enough effort. There are several players I'm having trouble remembering they are even in the game. Pyro, Drazerk, rayn, Vain, supersoft, GGQ. Rofl kita, do you always play like this? You know for a fact I wasn't here day1 and that I couldn't do shit about who got lynched. Every wagon fliped town thus all candidates were wrong no? I'm voting palmar until HE gives me a good case that I can buy, because right now I don't have a clue about his alignment, but I know for a fact that he is more lurky as scum. You completely distorted my posts, but I've seen you do that as town aswell in ptp2. What's up with that? My lynch preference for today is chaos13. I'll share my case in a little bit. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Rofl kita, do you always play like this? You know for a fact I wasn't here day1 and that I couldn't do shit about who got lynched. Every wagon fliped town thus all candidates were wrong no? I'm voting palmar until HE gives me a good case that I can buy, because right now I don't have a clue about his alignment, but I know for a fact that he is more lurky as scum. You completely distorted my posts, but I've seen you do that as town aswell in ptp2. What's up with that? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
chaos13 If there was one word to describe chaos13's play so far it would be safe. He has contributed enough not to stand out as a lurker, yet hasn't provided any strong opinions that are meaningful. He is careful not to make any enemies in order to guarantee his survival into late game. Filter through his posts and take a guess at how many people he has accused of being suspicious. The answer is one. Throughout the entire sequence of events of day one, supersoft is the only person he has called out. Not once did he comment on the relevant day one bandwagons with prp, wbg, or erandorr. Did you not have an opinion regarding any of these players? Now take a look at the current vote count when he presents his "analysis": wherebugsgo-6 DoctorHelvetica Drazerk iGrok Pyo Jackal58 Erandorr prplhz-9 chaoser Greymist raynpelikoneet jcarlsoniv navillus heist TranceStorm Mr. Wiggles OriginalName supersoft-1 chaos13 Essentially what this means is that he would have to convince 8 other players to switch over to his cause within the few hours remaining in the lynch. A difficult task, but possible if he really believes in what he is saying. Upon posting his analysis, how hard did he push his case for others to rally to his cause? Not at all. In other words, he posted an analysis on a player he knew would not be lynched and had little interest in being lynched. After disappearing during the most important part of day one, he returns during the night with this gem, which is really what made me go back and take a better look at him: On September 19 2011 21:37 chaos13 wrote: Hey guys, sorry my activity level has been down, I've been pretty busy. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute more this week. I haven't had a chance to read the case(s) on Erandorr in much depth but whenever town flips as a lynch D1 there will be at least one scum on their wagon. Granted, this time around he was lynched with a very small percentage of votes so it's possible that they stayed away from it. Either way look at the vote lists of people who didn't get lynched and you'll find scum. Especially on WBG (assuming he is town or third party and not mafia himself) because that is an easy justification for mafia vote D1. He was being pretty much useless and this gives them a great excuse to vote for someone. Check out Dr.H, iGrok, and Jackal on that list. All three players should know better. Sorry I couldn't be around to do more than vote and leave again yesterday. I'll do my best to be more present in the future. To summerize: There may be scum on the Erandorr bandwagon. There may not be scum on the Erandorr bandwagon. There may be scum on other bandwagons. Now lets take a look at his main argument in the supersoft lynch: On September 19 2011 05:08 chaos13 wrote: .In fact, supersoft doesn't commit to any particular stance here. After feeling WBG was artificial, he could now be absolutely anything. This encompasses two different mafia characteristics in one: 1. Contradiction of opinion without new evidence 2. Non-committal wishy-washy stance These are the only posts with notable content from supersoft. He's scum. ##Vote supersoft You are in fact at fault for exactly what you've just called out supersoft for doing. You don't commit to any stance and dispaly a completely wishy-washy attitude. Guess what, you're scum ##vote chaos13 | ||
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