I beat NetHack.

myopia

United States2928 Posts

September 17 2011 06:02 GMT

I don't think many people are going to care about this but I JUST GOTTA TELL THE WORLD

Listen to the invisible choir with me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGHwWwQw3tc
You rolled a new NetHack character? Bet he'll be damned.

Link to NAO dumplog. The more interesting stuff is reposted below.

Battle Report (sorta)
This was years in the making. I sent thousands of brave souls to their graves before ascending this guy. I'd never even gotten the amulet. Much of that time was spent on the NetHack variant, Slash'EM, but for now I'm back on the NAO server. I won't spend any time trying to teach the uninitiated what this game is all about (refer to Encyclopedia NetHackWikitticca), just know you'll spend countless hours experiencing the countless ways you can die.

Forklift, neutral male human Ranger, started his life with 17 strength and his +2 arrow stack blessed. A good roll. Not going for any conducts here - I just wanted to win. For once. I took a risk and went straight into the mines, got the luckstone without much hassle, but no magic lamps and the town priest was cross-aligned. Found a second altar on level 4, converted it and quickly received Magicbane from my god. I love that weapon, feels so broken. It made everything up to Medusa's level a breeze. Sokoban housed an amulet of reflection, and I picked up a bag of holding, and rings of free action/telecontrol somewhere around here. Spellbook of Identify simplified Forklift's life. On the downside, still no wishes. All potential quest artifact wishing was preempted by finding Demonbane, Cleaver, and Fire Brand. The single bones file in my whole run was an early game wizard. Mres cloaks are nice, but I already had the Magicbane.

Got to the castle running mithril, displacement, and helm of brilliance. No decent boots, gloves, or shirt. With the might of engraved Elbereth I obtained the wand of wishing, and silver scales from one of the armory dragons. (either gray or silver was fine by me, I had redundant sources of either extrinsic by then). Before I dropped into Gehennom, I jumped back up to Minetown and the altar. Got myself crowned and threw 30k gold at the priest to bring my protection up to 10. Genocided L's and h's because they're pricks. Reverse genocided Nurses in Sokoban to put me above 200HP. I used the wand for power gauntlets, speed boots, and a wand of death, and saved my 4 spare wishes for later.

Everything else was just navigating Gehennom mazes with wands of digging. My wish waiting gamble paid off when the RNG gifted me a hawaiian shirt, ring of conflict, and THREE amulets of lifesaving, all in the top levels of the mazes. Disenchanters tried to make Magicbane less awesome, I'll consider genociding them in the future. Somewhere along the way I accidentally dropped my whole quiver of +5 arrows. I never found them again, but that's OK because I had MAGICBANE. I bribed several of the demon princes. I'm pretty sure I could've killed them but no taking chances when I'm this close. With my kit complete, I burned my final wishes on magic markers for my stack of 50+ blank scrolls, and wand of death'd Rodney the 5 times he showed up on the ascending marathon.

I used one amulet of lifesaving, on the Plane of Air - the buffed Elementals took me by surprise. Genocided ; when I landed in Water. Conflict and wands of death/teleport kept me moving on the Astral plane - despite forgetting to put speed boots back on because I'm dumb - until I made it to the neutral altar for the offering and Demigodhood.


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Forklift the Arbalester St:25 Dx:18 Co:18 In:22 Wi:22 Ch:14 Neutral
Astral Plane $:0  HP:229(235) Pw:90(90) AC:-30 Xp:18/2015196 T:54541

Things I learned from this run
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- Magicbane does not protect you from fountain curses
- Bell of Opening does not open the Castle gate (pretty sure it does in Slash'EM)
- I really should've wished for a spellbook of magic mapping, and some grease

Inventory
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Weapons
c - the blessed rustproof +5 Vorpal Blade (alternate weapon; not wielded)
j - the blessed rustproof +5 Magicbane (weapon in hand)
v - 16 blessed +0 arrows (in quiver)
F - the blessed +2 Longbow of Diana
Armor
a - a blessed rustproof +2 pair of gauntlets of power (being worn)
b - a blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots
d - a blessed rustproof +4 helm of brilliance (being worn)
f - a blessed fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance (being worn)
P - a blessed +4 silver dragon scale mail (being worn)
R - an uncursed +0 pair of levitation boots (being worn)
S - a blessed +4 Hawaiian shirt (being worn)
Amulets
z - an uncursed amulet of life saving
L - an uncursed amulet of life saving (being worn)
Rings
E - an uncursed ring of free action (on left hand)
H - an uncursed ring of teleport control
U - an uncursed ring of conflict (on right hand)
Tools
k - a magic marker (1:38)
n - the uncursed Candelabrum of Invocation (no candles attached)
o - an uncursed rusty skeleton key
q - a blessed +0 unicorn horn
u - a blessed bag of holding
J - the Bell of Opening (0:0)
W - an uncursed blindfold
Wands
h - a wand of light (0:3)
l - a cursed wand of teleportation (0:5)
m - a rusty wand of secret door detection (0:6)
p - a wand of create monster (0:11)
s - a wand of polymorph (0:8)
t - a wand of lightning (0:5)
x - a wand of slow monster (0:4)
y - a wand of digging (0:0)
A - a wand of striking (0:4)
B - a wand of lightning (0:8)
C - a blessed rustproof wand of death (1:5)
D - a blessed rustproof wand of death (0:0)
G - a wand of teleportation (0:5)
K - a wand of fire (0:6)
O - a wand of digging (0:1)
Q - a wand of sleep (0:4)
T - a wand of teleportation (0:0)
V - a wand of lightning (0:4)
X - a wand of teleportation (0:2)
Y - a wand of teleportation (0:5)
Spellbooks
Z - the uncursed Book of the Dead
Scrolls
e - 2 blessed scrolls of blank paper
N - a blessed scroll of charging
Comestibles
g - an uncursed lizard corpse
i - an uncursed K-ration
I - an uncursed food ration
Gems
M - a blessed luckstone named stash20

Contents of the bag of holding:
an uncursed +0 pair of water walking boots
an uncursed +0 cloak of displacement
an uncursed +0 pair of levitation boots
an uncursed amulet of reflection
an uncursed amulet of magical breathing
an uncursed rusty ring of free action
an uncursed ring of warning
an uncursed rusty ring of polymorph control
an uncursed ring of polymorph
a blessed magic marker (1:4)
a magic marker (0

3)
a blessed magic marker (0:73)
an uncursed rusty skeleton key
a rusty +0 pick-axe
a wand of digging (0:2)
a wand of digging (0:5)
a wand of digging (0:0)
a wand of undead turning (0:6)
a wand of speed monster (0:7)
a wand of cold (0:0)
a rusty wand of sleep (0:4)
a wand of teleportation (0:8)
a wand of digging (0:8)
a wand of digging (0:6)
a wand of teleportation (0:8)
a blessed wand of lightning (0:0)
a wand of lightning (0:5)
a wand of light (0:13)
a wand of teleportation (0:7)
a wand of lightning (0:3)
a blessed spellbook of jumping
an uncursed spellbook of light
an uncursed spellbook of identify
41 uncursed scrolls of blank paper
an uncursed scroll of taming
a cursed scroll of magic mapping
4 cursed scrolls of blank paper
a cursed scroll of teleportation
an uncursed scroll of enchant weapon
a blessed scroll of create monster
an uncursed scroll of remove curse
a blessed scroll of identify
an uncursed scroll of taming
4 blessed scrolls of teleportation
8 potions of holy water
an uncursed potion of confusion
a blessed potion of speed
a blessed potion of blindness
3 uncursed potions of levitation
4 uncursed lumps of royal jelly
3 uncursed eucalyptus leaves
an uncursed lizard corpse
an uncursed apple
3 uncursed lembas wafers
an uncursed carrot
an uncursed emerald
an uncursed jade stone
2 uncursed jacinth stones
an uncursed topaz stone
an uncursed turquoise stone
2 uncursed jasper stones
an uncursed black opal
an uncursed agate stone
5 uncursed opals
an uncursed black opal
an uncursed aquamarine stone
4 uncursed rubies
2 uncursed diamonds
3 uncursed chrysoberyl stones
4 uncursed obsidian stones
3 uncursed jet stones
3 uncursed amber stones
5 uncursed citrine stones
2 uncursed sapphires

Final attributes
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You were the Envoy of Balance
You were piously aligned
Your alignment was 282
You were fire resistant
You were cold resistant
You were sleep resistant
You were disintegration-resistant
You were shock resistant
You were poison resistant
You were magic-protected
You saw invisible
You were telepathic
You had automatic searching
You were invisible to others
You were stealthy
You caused conflict
You could teleport
You were levitating
You had a +1 damage bonus
You were protected
You were fast
You had reflection
You had free action
Your life would have been saved
You were extremely lucky (13)
You had extra luck
Good luck did not time out for you
You survived after being killed once

Vanquished creatures
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Orcus
Juiblex
The Wizard of Yendor (5 times)
Pestilence (twice)
Famine (twice)
.....
2703 creatures vanquished.

Genocided or extinct species:
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hobbits
dwarves
bugbears
dwarf lords
dwarf kings
mind flayers
master mind flayers
liches
demiliches
master liches
arch-liches
soldiers (extinct)
erinyes (extinct)
jellyfish
piranhas
sharks
giant eels
electric eels
krakens
17 species genocided.
2 species extinct.

Conducts
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Voluntary challenges
You genocided 17 types of monsters
You polymorphed 1 item
You changed form 1 time
You used 7 wishes
You did not wish for any artifacts

Final messages and score
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The Angel of Mars hits the winged gargoyle.
The xorn hits the Angel of Mars.
The xorn misses the Angel of Mars.
The xorn hits the Angel of Mars.
The xorn bites the Angel of Mars.
The xorn misses the Angel of Mars.
The xorn hits the Angel of Mars.
The xorn misses the Angel of Mars.
The xorn misses the Angel of Mars.
The priest of Mars casts a spell!
The invisible high priestess of Venus wields a mace!
The mace welds itself to the invisible high priestess of Venus' hand!
You hear some noises.
You hear a chugging sound.
There is an altar to Venus (neutral) here.
You offer the Amulet of Yendor to Venus...
An invisible choir sings, and you are bathed in radiance...
The voice of Venus thunders: "Congratulations, mortal!"
"In return for thy service, I grant thee the gift of Immortality!"
You ascend to the status of Demigod...

Goodbye forklift the Demigod...
You went to your reward with 3771144 points,
Vorpal Blade (worth 4000 zorkmids and 10000 points)
Magicbane (worth 3500 zorkmids and 8750 points)
The Candelabrum of Invocation (worth 5000 zorkmids and 12500 points)
The Longbow of Diana (worth 4000 zorkmids and 10000 points)
The Bell of Opening (worth 5000 zorkmids and 12500 points)
The Book of the Dead (worth 10000 zorkmids and 25000 points)
5 citrine stones (worth 7500 zorkmids),
5 opals (worth 4000 zorkmids),
4 rubies (worth 14000 zorkmids),
4 obsidian stones (worth 800 zorkmids),
3 amber stones (worth 3000 zorkmids),
3 jet stones (worth 2550 zorkmids),
3 chrysoberyl stones (worth 2100 zorkmids),
2 diamonds (worth 8000 zorkmids),
2 jacinth stones (worth 6500 zorkmids),
2 sapphires (worth 6000 zorkmids),
2 black opals (worth 5000 zorkmids),
2 jasper stones (worth 1000 zorkmids),
1 emerald (worth 2500 zorkmids),
1 turquoise stone (worth 2000 zorkmids),
1 aquamarine stone (worth 1500 zorkmids),
1 topaz stone (worth 900 zorkmids),
1 agate stone (worth 200 zorkmids),
1 jade stone (worth 300 zorkmids),
2 amulets of life saving (worth 300 zorkmids),
1 amulet of reflection (worth 150 zorkmids),
1 amulet of magical breathing (worth 150 zorkmids),
and 0 pieces of gold, after 54541 moves.
Killer: ascended
You were level 18 with a maximum of 235 hit points when you ascended.

Next up: DCSS.

EtherealDeath

United States8366 Posts

September 17 2011 06:09 GMT

If the high priestess of Venus is truly invisible - if there is truly no observation, no interaction - and she wields a mace which from an outside point of view is atomic to her in their mutual non-observed status - does anything happen when she actually smacks you in the noggin with the mace or is her existence dispersed from the immediate supposition?

P.S. You are a very evil person, killing species T_T. How could you kill hobbits?

crate

United States2474 Posts

September 17 2011 06:14 GMT

Congrats! It's a pretty rewarding experience, even though I don't think I'll ever play Nethack again.

I'm pretty sure arrows at expert outdamage Magicbane on average for a Ranger btw. Magicbane is pretty wimpy for actually killing things. (Of course, since it's an athame, it's still the most broken weapon in the game.) Vorpal Blade outdamages Magicbane too, but not by much. But as you found out it doesn't really matter what weapon you use.

Have fun with Crawl.

goswser

United States3519 Posts

September 17 2011 06:31 GMT

Its late, for a second I thought it was titled I beat NexHack. I was going to post so did I but he was cheesing me! Until I realized it wasn't about starcraft 2 :/

myopia

United States2928 Posts

September 17 2011 06:37 GMT

On September 17 2011 15:09 EtherealDeath wrote:
If the high priestess of Venus is truly invisible - if there is truly no observation, no interaction - and she wields a mace which from an outside point of view is atomic to her in their mutual non-observed status - does anything happen when she actually smacks you in the noggin with the mace or is her existence dispersed from the immediate supposition?

P.S. You are a very evil person, killing species T_T. How could you kill hobbits?

Invisible things murder you all the time in NetHack.

Hobbits were caught in the genocide crossfire - taking out mind flayers removes hobbits and dwarves as well. Nothing personal.

On September 17 2011 15:14 crate wrote:
Congrats! It's a pretty rewarding experience, even though I don't think I'll ever play Nethack again.

I'm pretty sure arrows at expert outdamage Magicbane on average for a Ranger btw. Magicbane is pretty wimpy for actually killing things. (Of course, since it's an athame, it's still the most broken weapon in the game.) Vorpal Blade outdamages Magicbane too, but not by much. But as you found out it doesn't really matter what weapon you use.

Have fun with Crawl.

What NetHack needs is version 4.0. There's a lot of things that the variants do better than the original, but each of them has their questionable design decisions. With the devteam silent for 8+ years now, can't blame anyone for moving on.

I valued Magicbane's curse protection above what Vorpal or Fire Brand could've given me. I HATE getting cursed.

crate

United States2474 Posts

September 17 2011 08:07 GMT

Honestly the entire design direction of Nethack doesn't appeal to me beside Crawl (which has imo an excellent design philosophy). I was playing Sporkhack instead of vanilla for the last 6 months or so when I actually played Nethack before I dropped it altogether, and I think I agree with where Spork was going ... but it was still saddled with a lot of stuff I didn't like because it was still recognizably Nethack.

Also I don't think I could bring myself to play a roguelike without autoexplore any more. It's just too convenient.

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I agree with walking around with Magicbane out, but if you're actually going to fight something it's likely ideal to swap to a different weapon just before you get in melee range (unless Magicbane is your only source of magic resistance, in which case it's harder to say what the right move is). But it's not a big deal since with AC -30 and 200 hp there's not much that can actually kill you anyway.

]343[

United States10328 Posts

September 17 2011 09:39 GMT

Haha, I haven't played NetHack yet, but I've died way too many times at Crawl already

particularly lulzily, I got whacked for 20 dmg/turn on Elf:5 without noticing and died at XL 21 HOPr wtf

gogogadgetflow

United States2583 Posts

September 17 2011 09:41 GMT

On September 17 2011 15:31 goswser wrote:
Its late, for a second I thought it was titled I beat NexHack. I was going to post so did I but he was cheesing me! Until I realized it wasn't about starcraft 2 :/

sick so i beat someone who beat nexhack! now to find out who nexhack beat.

Aylear

Norway3988 Posts

September 17 2011 10:13 GMT

Congrats myopia! Your first ascension is always memorable. =) You got luckier than me; in my first ascension (a Wizard), I had to explore all three branches before finding the right altar, hounded by the Riders all the while.

I'll get back to NetHack one of these days; for now, I'm too preoccupied with Minecraft.

Jinsho

United Kingdom3101 Posts

September 17 2011 11:07 GMT

#10

Congratulations man!

gameguard

Korea (South)2131 Posts

September 17 2011 14:16 GMT

#11

So like I wanna try to play slash'em with the 3d graphics
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but like i cant get it to work. I installed slashem gtk slashem and the gtk runtime environment or whatever. When i try to connect to the local executable it says Can't change directory to c:/blablabla

can someone help me out. I tried the vulture's eye but i cant stand the fact that u have to move diagonally using numpad lol.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

September 17 2011 14:33 GMT

#12

Nice... I've never managed it. Of course, I haven't tried seriously in about ten years.

Could probably manage if I dumped a month or three of my life into it.

myopia

United States2928 Posts

September 17 2011 15:52 GMT

#13

On September 17 2011 17:07 crate wrote:
Honestly the entire design direction of Nethack doesn't appeal to me beside Crawl (which has imo an excellent design philosophy). I was playing Sporkhack instead of vanilla for the last 6 months or so when I actually played Nethack before I dropped it altogether, and I think I agree with where Spork was going ... but it was still saddled with a lot of stuff I didn't like because it was still recognizably Nethack.

Also I don't think I could bring myself to play a roguelike without autoexplore any more. It's just too convenient.

Yeah autoexplore is sweet. Do you play DCSS online? What does playing online do for you, besides meeting other player's ghosts? I have a hard enough time dealing with my own ghosts. The whole reason I play on NAO/Pallas is bones files.

Gameguard - I've never tried those graphics, sorry man I don't know how to help. I prefer ascii or small tiles versions, where you can see the whole map floor at once.

Kanil

United States1713 Posts

September 17 2011 16:50 GMT

#14

Congratulations.

I suck horribly at roguelikes, but I do understand how damn difficult they can be. Well done.

crate

United States2474 Posts

September 17 2011 17:37 GMT

#15

On September 18 2011 00:52 myopia wrote:

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I don't play online, though honestly I might start doing so now that my internet connection is good (when I played online a few years ago as an undergrad it wasn't worth the latency).

Other than ghosts there's nothing special about playing online.

PassiveAce

United States18076 Posts

September 17 2011 17:58 GMT

#16

I have never in my life made it past the Mines. Congratulations sir

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

September 17 2011 18:24 GMT

#17

On September 18 2011 02:58 PassiveAce wrote:
I have never in my life made it past the Mines. Congratulations sir

Never cleared the quest, myself. I think everyone who's ever known sheer terror at the horrendous death implied by e@x is impressed.

skindzer

Chile5114 Posts

September 17 2011 19:08 GMT

#18

Dude that song is sick, I only knew Talk talk for their synthpop days, seems like this album is worth checking out. (Didn't read the rest of the blog ^^)

myopia

United States2928 Posts

September 17 2011 19:33 GMT

#19

On September 18 2011 04:08 skindzer wrote:
Dude that song is sick, I only knew Talk talk for their synthpop days, seems like this album is worth checking out. (Didn't read the rest of the blog ^^)

DUDE! Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock are unreal, get them asap

Ulfsark

United States958 Posts

September 17 2011 23:54 GMT

#20

Grats man!, I have not played Nethack but I have been playing through stonesoup if you know what that is.

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