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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
September 24 2011 14:24 GMT
#41
so im stuck in the Rogue level. I think something is wrong with my nethack. I cannot see any walls or anything on this map. The only indications are like food that i drop, ocasional monsters, and gold that i can see using detect treasure. How the hell can i find the stairs up.... cus for down i just dug down but i gota go up to get my stuff from minetown
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 14:39:52
September 24 2011 14:30 GMT
#42
Chance of wishing for an artifact - http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wishing#Artifact_wishing. Very slim if you've found that many. Chaotic gift artifacts are mostly garbage (you get the best one by being crowned) and wizards don't melee that much in the late game anyways, so in the future I wouldn't bother with it as a wizard. Save your artifact slots for wishes.

You'll want a robe. They give magic cancellation 3, take your cloak slot, and boost your spellcasting abilities. Priests have a good chance of carrying one though, you should be able to find one without wasting a wish.

Helm of brilliance will raise any char's stats above their max.

Power gauntlets are always metal, so they interfere with spellcasting. Dex gloves don't BUT with a robe and max attributes you may be able to get 0% failure rate on your spells anyways.

Getting a skill unrestricted only allows you to bring it to basic.


If you don't have these, they may be good to wish for:
blessed greased bag of holding
blessed fixed greased +2 robe
blessed fixed greased +2 helm of brilliance
amulet of life saving
ring of conflict
ring of free action
ring of levitation
magic marker


On September 24 2011 23:24 gameguard wrote:
so im stuck in the Rogue level. I think something is wrong with my nethack. I cannot see any walls or anything on this map. The only indications are like food that i drop, ocasional monsters, and gold that i can see using detect treasure. How the hell can i find the stairs up.... cus for down i just dug down but i gota go up to get my stuff from minetown


Yeah the rogue level bugs out on me too. You could just levelport with the eye.
it's my first day
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 14:48:54
September 24 2011 14:41 GMT
#43
oh right eye invocation! thanks

oh, I have almost all the rings. I was polypiling a bit in minetown. Actually i got ridiculously strong early cause of my bones file lol. I exploded my bag with so many scrolls so im low on enchantment... I somehow found 2 more bags of holding though.

I was planning on using cloak of protection, robe would be the better choice? I got 3% spell failure with no robe and maxed attack spells. But then, i think the % is bugged and it fails more than that lol.

I guess robe + power gloves... or COP with dex gloves might me good combos? What about displacement?

What do you think is better helm of brilliance or the Cornthean (sp? lol)
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 15:54:20
September 24 2011 15:53 GMT
#44
Robe is better than a cloak of protection, since the "protection" just implies magic cancellation 3 (and maybe 1 extra AC?). Robe is better. The only cloak worth wearing over a robe lategame is a cloak of magic resistance (displacement is probably the best early on though, but lategame it only gives MC2 which is bad).

If you don't have any ideas for wishes, save them. You can wish for a cockatrice corpse (unless you've genocided them) if you get into a bad situation. One-hit-kills the vast majority of enemies in the game. Otherwise magic markers are always good unless you managed to blow up all your blank scrolls too. Or jumping boots, since they're crazy overpowered (the only "balancing" factor really is that they're annoying to use) ... though I guess if you have speed boots jumping is maybe not a big enough improvement to be worth a wish.

Helm of brilliance is the best helm unless you think helm of telepathy is better (which in some cases it probably is).
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
September 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#45
Just wikipedia'd this so I'd know what this was about. Looks absolutely insane lol.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 22:52:06
September 24 2011 22:48 GMT
#46
Update on my progress lol.

Just cleared out castle level. Couple floors ago, I exploded a fireball on myself and lost 2 blessed genocide scrolls that i was saving (also burning my helm and COP in the process) ... damn im making so many mistakes but overall still in good shape somehow. I think i still have 1 or 2 blessed genocide and 2 cursed genocide. There was some nurse that was refusing to leave my minetown lol but due to being naked for her heals, I lost 2 lvls to some random wraith .... Also I must have dried out like 20 fountains without a single good outcome from it. I got mass cursed from fountain 2 times which almost got me killed once when my blessed bag of holding got cursed (made me stressed and i didnt know what became so heavy all of a sudden).

So I can finally get a wish. I guess ill just wish for helm of brilliance and save the rest. I have one blessed charging scroll so no need to waste a wish for taht.

Also i tried to erodeproof something I was wearing and endedup removing the proof from my speedboots. I thought it was blessed scroll of destroy armor lol. I seriosuly need enchant armor scrolls, god i have so many scrolls but none of these. Polypiling didnt give me any also.


Edit: Oh i didnt know polying spellbooks made them unreadable for refreshing ur spells. Oh god, Im losing all my early spells with no way to learn it again
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 24 2011 23:02 GMT
#47
you know the likelihood of getting a wish from a fountain is based on your dungeon level, right? (http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Fountain#Magic_Fountains). If you're below level 19, it's 100% impossible.

Getting most of your inventory cursed is just as likely as summoning a water demon - which, should you get a demon, it's very unlikely they'll give a wish. I never drink from fountains, it's infinitely safer to #dip some item you don't really care about.
it's my first day
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
September 25 2011 01:40 GMT
#48
i know its a slim chance but its hard for me to pass up, especially in the early game. And later on, the demon and snakes are no prob. Mass curse is taken care of by one spell or scroll. Blessing everything again is a pain though.

Ive actually got 2 wishes so far from the first 5 floors. Both times i died shortly after because I didnt know wtf i was doing. But yea, water mocasins and angry water demon got me killed so many times, but those chars were just starting out so it doesnt matter.


Anyways... right now my biggest problem is that Ive spent so much time doing random shit and farming and micromanaging my damn inventory that Im losing all my spells lol. I literally lost 70% of it. I dont even have magic missle any more T_T... I didnt know how spellbooks worked so i read them once and polied all of it in the early game. So i had a bunch of spells that i couldnt use due to being low lvl. Now im high enough to use them but im losing them all lol. I will probably wish for magic markers next time i play on this guy.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
September 25 2011 19:14 GMT
#49
i might have to wish for a magic flute,... thats sad. Stupid unicorn horns dont ever turn into something useful :/
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 25 2011 19:53 GMT
#50
On September 26 2011 04:14 gameguard wrote:
i might have to wish for a magic flute,... thats sad. Stupid unicorn horns dont ever turn into something useful :/

Why do you need a flute? You've already cleared the castle, so just go blow up the drawbridge with a wand of striking or force bolt.

(The only real use for instruments is to just kill everything in the castle via drawbridge-crushing, except for their wand-like effects.)
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 20:33:19
September 25 2011 20:32 GMT
#51
becuase like the nonteleport maps on the gehemon is annoying as hell. i want to tame an umber hulk or something to break the walls.


oh i ment magic whiste
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 01:37:14
September 27 2011 01:35 GMT
#52
Grrr, this got me back into Nethack, I never beat it, and I'm in the middle of a decent run, for me. BoH from Sokoban, Mjolnir and Excalibur for weapons, GoP for Mjolnir to be my ranged weapon, SDSM, total of -11 AC, Luckstone from mines, and I haven't even made it to the quest level yet.

And there's an epic thunderstorm outside. I'm terrified of loading my save.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#53
You gotta beat it man, bury this hatchet. I can't tell you how good it felt to finally win.
it's my first day
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
September 27 2011 10:14 GMT
#54
Polymorph spell is so imba lol. You can poly all scrolls/potoins u find for something u need. And rings into something u can eat.. too bad my game all the good edible rings are non metal. I got like 5 ammy of life saving lol.

Im crusing through gehemon right now. Went down to the last floor but i missed the invocation stuff cus i couldnt find the tower and vlad's place lol. 2 big mistakes though. I thought umber hulks can dig through all walls but that wasnt the case. So i wished for magic whistle and reverse genocided them to try and make a path in nonteleport maps to ease my ascention. It turns out they cant break non diggable walls...

One time i got weak in gehemon and was lazy so i prayed, and my +5 robe got disintegrated. Wasted another wish for a new robe cus i didnt feel like poly piling, 2 wishes left now lol. Im pretty much invincible right now, I totally overprepared but I just want to make sure i ascend.

On a side note, I started a new game with a monk, and started quaffing fountains, got a wish on first floor, wished for orb of fate at lvl 1, got blasted and died lol
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 27 2011 13:17 GMT
#55
So JingleHell the Human Valkyrie is preparing herself to assault the dreaded Medusa. She has her mighty longsword Excalibur ready to slay any beast in close combat, and the dreaded warhammer Mjollnir for anything needing to be slain at a distance.

Uhm, sadly I've never gotten this far in the game, since I used to be pretty impatient when I was playing as a kid. (Still am, really, but better.) Any suggestions aside from having a blindfold before thwacking her? Oh, and how do I reduce my blasted weight? I'm not really carrying around that much stuff that's actually heavy, but even with my bag of holding and gauntlets of power, I'm running pretty close to burdened.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 27 2011 13:27 GMT
#56
man gameguard if you win after playing this game for a week it makes me look really bad


Medusa is useless if you have reflection. No blindfold needed. Is your BoH blessed? Are you carrying a ton of gold? Gold is useless by this point in vanilla nethack, as long as you've bought 9+ protection. Ditch it all. Spellbooks are also really heavy, so stash them and give them another read before your start the ascension run.
it's my first day
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 23:23:03
September 27 2011 13:34 GMT
#57
Oh. The 24k gold I have on me isn't important? I've never gotten far enough to know that... Don't have any spellbooks on me, although I haven't even messed with learning any really, since I'm playing a valkyrie.

My BoH is just uncursed. Hmm. I think my gold and my 20ish food rations may be eating up a decent portion of my carrying capacity. And maybe my huge stock of potions and scrolls.

When you've had so many YASD's in your life, it's easy to packrat.

Holy hell, Mjollnir+GoP is godly for this castle drawbridge. -22 AC, with resistance and reflection, just hit lvl 14, cleared the mazes above the castle properly, still have a wish left on my old wand of wishing and I'm about to get the castle one... I might actually beat this bloody game finally. After something like 15 years of playing it off and on.

Damn game... my dad was playing it back when he was in college and hasn't beat it either.

Bah. Score:1,115,366. Valk, Lawful, Wizard's Tower Treasure Zoo, Petrified by a frigging sergeant waving around a cockatrice corpse. Ran out of Lizard.

Think I'ma start playing on the NAO server now that I've got a good run under my belt.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 28 2011 02:11 GMT
#58
RIP Valk

If you're looking for good config files, I really like mine:
http://alt.org/nethack/userdata/f/forklift/forklift.nh343rc

Particularly the curses interface. 100% slicker than your standard tty.


Also, I give up on DCSS. I've been playing it on and off for a year - I just don't find it half as fun as NetHack. Back to Slash'EM for me - gonna ascend a lawful human flame mage next.
it's my first day
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 28 2011 04:31 GMT
#59
If I slap up a sports and games OP for Nethack tomorrow, will you gents give it some love?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 28 2011 04:55 GMT
#60
On September 28 2011 13:31 JingleHell wrote:
If I slap up a sports and games OP for Nethack tomorrow, will you gents give it some love?

yes sir I will take a look, but I would appreciate some pics.
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