[R] High level BGH replays - Page 3

On December 27 2005 02:44 tfeign wrote:
There are probably just as many money mappers as non money mappers out there. Log into battle.net and click on Join and you'll always find more BGH/Fastest Map games made than non money maps.

Sure, nonmoney players may be playing on ladders such as PGT, or play games privately with friends. However the majority of money games are 3v3, meaning that one 3v3 0 Clutter game for example, consists of 3 times the amount of players in it than a 1v1LT, even though they both count as 1 game.

The pool of players in money and nonmoney is close.

Mastering a money map really only requires knowledge of the game and speed.

Micro on money is mostly attack move.

Macro isn't just learning how to create a big army as fast as possible; it's learning how to use up your resources most effectively, build orders, timing of expansions, knowing what units to build (ratio of a certain unit to another)

Strategy on money is almost nonexistent. You can always tell what your opponent is going for because scouting can be done so easily on money. You cannot expect to surprise an A-level money map player with an unorthodox build.

There's tons of room for mistakes. Losing a big battle due to carelessness in midgame on a money map will not hurt you nowhere near the magnitude it does on a non money map.

Really, mastering money maps is not hard. All top level money players essentially use the same builds over and over. There's no creativity. No critical decision making. No ramps, no cliffs, no terrains to be abused. No BO's to be explored. Importance of scouting is minimal. Micro is almost nonexistent compared to nonmoney. Macro is simplified to making a ton of buildings and units, as opposed to critical expansion timing, effective build orders, effective unit allocation. Once midgame starts rolling, there's so much money to be used that one can make expansions any time they feel like it and secure it with cannons. On nonmoney, one has to sometimes decide whether or not making cannons to protect a certain expansion will be a worthwhile investment.

The game becomes oversimplified to whoever clicks faster over an extended period of time. You really cannot attack your opponent anywhere other than straight in the front once midgame starts rolling. Lose a base? Just build another. There's no concepts of harassment on money maps. Try to kill a high level protoss or terran player on a money map with mass drops as zerg-you'll fail 100% of the time. Try to muta-rush a protoss to death on a money map-It won't happen. There's so much money to be used that players can always play perfectly safe from all types of cheese.

On December 27 2005 00:03 Zymurgy wrote:


where did i mention tl.net? I was mentioning how he said he hopes they never get an organized community and why he would wish that since it has little affect on us anyways...i didn't say tl.net was the best place to post this kind of thing since obviously it is not.