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I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned. -disciple |
On July 24 2011 07:16 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 06:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:On July 24 2011 06:15 Kipsate wrote: Cause I like Fantasy, he is my second favorite Terran(the first one is not good enough lolz) plus he is the only terran together with Flash who knows how to play TvP.
That and his vultures seem to always find a way into the opponents main and nat, and I like that.
Ow yeah, should remove that fomos picture ^ Fomos isn't allowed. Fanatasy has awesome vulture control, however, I believe it depends on the opponent (free not building cannons lol) and if free just had some cannons and didnt just a-move retard mode into that choke he would have won the game, ofcourse that's only one game, but Fantasy has to prove his worth to me (lol im so biased sorry T_T) If he were to play Best and win in a macro game I would acknowledge his TvP prowess Fantasy won an OSL, Fantasy carried half SKT team through the PL when Bisu was doing.....uh well nothing, Fantasy is the #2 Terran right now I think, who else comes close?. There is a good reason why Fantasy was(arguably) the most deserving player to win a Starleague(who has never won one). Fantasy is fucking awesome Ok(he does have Fantasy GG timing and his recent PL hasn't been that impressive, but overall, Fantasy is a very solid Terran).
Fantasy is very capable in his own right, and a truly S-Class level player with adequate preparation for his opponent. I think he's clearly weaker in the general blind draw PL format compared to himself in leagues.
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On July 24 2011 06:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 06:15 Kipsate wrote: Cause I like Fantasy, he is my second favorite Terran(the first one is not good enough lolz) plus he is the only terran together with Flash who knows how to play TvP.
That and his vultures seem to always find a way into the opponents main and nat, and I like that.
Ow yeah, should remove that fomos picture ^ Fomos isn't allowed. Fanatasy has awesome vulture control, however, I believe it depends on the opponent (free not building cannons lol) and if free just had some cannons and didnt just a-move retard mode into that choke he would have won the game, ofcourse that's only one game, but Fantasy has to prove his worth to me (lol im so biased sorry T_T) If he were to play Best and win in a macro game I would acknowledge his TvP prowess
Fantasy isn't as dependent on successful vulture harass to beat protoss as you may think. Protoss have come up with various ways of blocking vulture harass a while ago (ex. pylon walls) but save for a few dips here and there Fanta's TvP remains as strong as it's ever been. His spider mine placement and siege tank positioning/target firing are usually sublime and he's won more than his fair share of TvP even without Jung Laden-ing his opponent's mineral lines. As for beating BeSt in a macro game....even Flash has trouble with that. Besides Fanta and Best are on the same team so we'll never know (unless BeSt actually qualifies for OSL/MSL lol who am I kidding)I know it's easy to hate on Fantasy now because of his struggles in proleague but let's not forget how clutch he was in the 2009 SPL finals, or how he carried SKT in the 2010 proleague. 65% career TvP win rate, 9-1 in last 10, 2nd highest TvP ELO. He's not on Flash's level, but no one else is on Fantasy's level either.
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Fantasy might have been in a slump the last two months, but he's unquestionably the second best terran over the last three years, and quite likely the fourth best player overall—yes, more successful than Stork. This is taking into account both individual and team leagues.
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Yeah Disciple!! Finally we can have a actual thread about KT vs CJ!!
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On July 24 2011 08:30 SimonB wrote: Fantasy might have been in a slump the last two months, but he's unquestionably the second best terran over the last three years, and quite likely the fourth best player overall—yes, more successful than Stork. This is taking into account both individual and team leagues.
If you want to go back 3 years then he clearly isn't over Stork.
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On July 24 2011 08:05 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 06:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:On July 24 2011 06:15 Kipsate wrote: Cause I like Fantasy, he is my second favorite Terran(the first one is not good enough lolz) plus he is the only terran together with Flash who knows how to play TvP.
That and his vultures seem to always find a way into the opponents main and nat, and I like that.
Ow yeah, should remove that fomos picture ^ Fomos isn't allowed. Fanatasy has awesome vulture control, however, I believe it depends on the opponent (free not building cannons lol) and if free just had some cannons and didnt just a-move retard mode into that choke he would have won the game, ofcourse that's only one game, but Fantasy has to prove his worth to me (lol im so biased sorry T_T) If he were to play Best and win in a macro game I would acknowledge his TvP prowess Fantasy isn't as dependent on successful vulture harass to beat protoss as you may think. Protoss have come up with various ways of blocking vulture harass a while ago (ex. pylon walls) but save for a few dips here and there Fanta's TvP remains as strong as it's ever been. His spider mine placement and siege tank positioning/target firing are usually sublime and he's won more than his fair share of TvP even without Jung Laden-ing his opponent's mineral lines. As for beating BeSt in a macro game....even Flash has trouble with that. Besides Fanta and Best are on the same team so we'll never know ( unless BeSt actually qualifies for OSL/MSL lol who am I kidding)I know it's easy to hate on Fantasy now because of his struggles in proleague but let's not forget how clutch he was in the 2009 SPL finals, or how he carried SKT in the 2010 proleague. 65% career TvP win rate, 9-1 in last 10, 2nd highest TvP ELO. He's not on Flash's level, but no one else is on Fantasy's level either.
this man speaks the truth
only 4 more hours to go, kt and cj i consider both very solid teams with very great players, either one will be a more than worthy oponent to skt in the finals, may the best team win and good luck to both sides
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the only thing better than watching baseball/basquetball/nfl live
watching bw playoffs live
bw forever!!!
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Sadly not going to be around to watch this live but I know KT will mop up and 2-0.
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cj has a better chance of taking down the t1 titans.. hoping cj can perform in crunch time
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come on CJ, i know you can turn things around
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On July 24 2011 09:07 EchelonTee wrote: cj has a better chance of taking down the t1 titans.. hoping cj can perform in crunch time
i agree but kt is on the lead, will cj be able to even the score?, if hydra and snow/movie fail again i think it'll be game over
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On July 24 2011 09:07 EchelonTee wrote: cj has a better chance of taking down the t1 titans.. hoping cj can perform in crunch time
especially with Violet sick, and no more Canata to give away free sets
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On July 24 2011 09:07 EchelonTee wrote: cj has a better chance of taking down the t1 titans.. hoping cj can perform in crunch time
On the other hand, it's not impossible to see something like
Flash > Sun HoeJJa > BeSt CH > s2
Or a huge number of other possible combinations that get KT to ace, where they have a definite advantage assuming the ace map isn't Aztec/Icarus.
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come on cj, you have to make it =)
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CJ better win this thing. Another SKT vs KT finals would be utterly disgusting. It's about time that CJ takes a win dangit.
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w00t, go KT!
Glad the Bisu stuff has stopped. It's no longer a joke after a while...
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