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[SPL] PO,KT Rolster vs CJ Entus Day 2 - Page 9

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I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned.
-disciple
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 24 2011 02:15 GMT
#161
On July 24 2011 10:50 GOsuGo wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224731
There is going to be a English Livecast.
Lets ALL tune in!!

by who? It would be great to hear klazart again, but i doubt it.

CJ vs Skt or KT vs SKT? Well i'd have to say KT has the better chance. CJ plays based on predicting matchups too much. Wrong matchup and they fall apart. Right matchup for lesser player and still fail. KT on the other hand has Flash, Stats, and a bunch of zergs who can probably muster one win.
☺
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
July 24 2011 02:23 GMT
#162
CJ needs to win T_T I can't believe KT has such momentum.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
GOsuGo
Profile Joined June 2011
14 Posts
July 24 2011 02:29 GMT
#163
On July 24 2011 11:15 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 10:50 GOsuGo wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224731
There is going to be a English Livecast.
Lets ALL tune in!!

by who? It would be great to hear klazart again, but i doubt it.

CJ vs Skt or KT vs SKT? Well i'd have to say KT has the better chance. CJ plays based on predicting matchups too much. Wrong matchup and they fall apart. Right matchup for lesser player and still fail. KT on the other hand has Flash, Stats, and a bunch of zergs who can probably muster one win.

It is going to be casted by Dejavu and Freezerjumps.

It is today's matchup. CJ vs KT.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
July 24 2011 02:29 GMT
#164
Can't wait for this! Hoping for an amazing game by Flash v anyone and Hoejja/Action v T, but also for a CJ victory so we go to a game 3!

And to answer the question on 7 players I'd choose (assuming they're in their prime)

1. Flash
2. Jaedong
3. Bisu
4. Fantasy
5. Effort
6. Stork
7. Tossgirl (so pretty... but realistically, Jangbi)
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 24 2011 02:38 GMT
#165
On July 24 2011 06:09 o[twist] wrote:
MOD EDIT: Fomos pictures, not allowed.


damn, didn't know that rule. sorry mods!
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4214 Posts
July 24 2011 02:47 GMT
#166
CJ, please win. Thanks

CJ vs SKT finals sounds more entertaining than KT vs SKT.
( ・´ー・`)
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 03:06:44
July 24 2011 02:54 GMT
#167
On July 24 2011 08:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 08:30 SimonB wrote:
Fantasy might have been in a slump the last two months, but he's unquestionably the second best terran over the last three years, and quite likely the fourth best player overall—yes, more successful than Stork. This is taking into account both individual and team leagues.


If you want to go back 3 years then he clearly isn't over Stork.

I disagree. Mind you, I admit 3 years is a bit unfair to Stork, since it would cut off about 3 silver medals (4 if you count GSI), but then again, Fantasy basically debuted after all those, so it wouldn't be fair to Fantasy to include them.

Raw stats using TLPD:

Fantasy since 23 July, 2008
Record: 227 wins - 140 losses (61.85%)

Stork since 23 July, 2008
219 wins - 143 losses (60.50%)

Slight edge to Fantasy.

What about the starleagues?

Fantasy over the last three years:

1 gold
2 silvers (both of which were very close and went five games)
3 semifinals (again, epic five game series against Jaedong and Flash)

Stork has:
1 gold
1 silver
2 semifinals

Once again, slight edge to fantasy.

What about the specific team leagues. (This I find weird, since they're almost always about the same record. Even when they slump, they seem to both slump at the same time.)

Proleague '08-09
Fantasy: 28 - 15
Stork: 28 - 16

WL '09
Fantasy: 6 - 7
Stork: 5 - 8

Proleague '09-10
Fantasy: 31 - 18
Stork: 24 - 14

WL '10
Fantasy: 15 - 9
Stork: 7 - 6

Proleague '11
Fantasy: 19 - 19
Stork: 24 - 19

WL '11
Fantasy: 22 - 13
Stork: 19 - 10

So, conclusion: they're basically the same player in terms of results over the last three years, but Fantasy has consistently been just a little bit better.

Edit: I also want to mention that Fantasy has been an excellent clutch and playoff performer, and has usually been SKT's ace until the last year when Bisu went crazy in proleague. Stork helped Khan win PL a few years ago with a one win in the finals, but hasn't otherwise distinguished himself at all in that area.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
July 24 2011 02:55 GMT
#168
As the PL final is in China i suppose it will only last one day no? One bo7 and voila to determine the winner?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50530 Posts
July 24 2011 02:56 GMT
#169
On July 24 2011 11:55 gds wrote:
As the PL final is in China i suppose it will only last one day no? One bo7 and voila to determine the winner?


Yes.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
July 24 2011 03:02 GMT
#170
On July 24 2011 11:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 11:55 gds wrote:
As the PL final is in China i suppose it will only last one day no? One bo7 and voila to determine the winner?


Yes.


Dear lord why.
Last year was already shit with that format.
wat
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
July 24 2011 03:04 GMT
#171
Ah that's bad, i hope at least a bo9 (it should be possible!)
BandonBanshee
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada437 Posts
July 24 2011 03:05 GMT
#172
If KT wins this do they advance?
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 24 2011 03:05 GMT
#173
On July 24 2011 04:03 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:02 Lightwip wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:01 Holgerius wrote:
On July 24 2011 03:33 Lightwip wrote:
I'd make excuses, but the fact is that the 4 winning KT players and Hoejja played a solid game yesterday, while CJ except for Leta did no such thing. CJ played bad while KT played well. Unless CJ can actually play well today, we're gonna see more of the same, and that would be a shame for many reasons.

How would it be a shame? If they show that they are actually better than the opposing team when it really matters, would they not deserve to advance?

Well for one, I don't like KT, but the main reason is because we get 1 less series of games.


SKT fans getting scared

if anything, T1 should worry more about CJ than KT
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 03:07:06
July 24 2011 03:05 GMT
#174
If KT wins this do they advance?

yes
FuTon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States308 Posts
July 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#175
I have faith in KT Rolster.
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
July 24 2011 03:14 GMT
#176
On July 24 2011 12:05 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:03 b0lt wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:02 Lightwip wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:01 Holgerius wrote:
On July 24 2011 03:33 Lightwip wrote:
I'd make excuses, but the fact is that the 4 winning KT players and Hoejja played a solid game yesterday, while CJ except for Leta did no such thing. CJ played bad while KT played well. Unless CJ can actually play well today, we're gonna see more of the same, and that would be a shame for many reasons.

How would it be a shame? If they show that they are actually better than the opposing team when it really matters, would they not deserve to advance?

Well for one, I don't like KT, but the main reason is because we get 1 less series of games.


SKT fans getting scared

if anything, T1 should worry more about CJ than KT


Hardly. KT is quite clutch
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
July 24 2011 03:14 GMT
#177
On July 24 2011 12:02 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 11:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 24 2011 11:55 gds wrote:
As the PL final is in China i suppose it will only last one day no? One bo7 and voila to determine the winner?


Yes.


Dear lord why.
Last year was already shit with that format.


Haha, don't want a repeat of last year's result?
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 24 2011 03:18 GMT
#178
the one-match finals is just crappy and unfortunate. six part-seasons with 270 matches plus wl league playoffs plus the 11 or 12 matches in the spl playoffs. then ending it in just one match. boggles the mind
a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
July 24 2011 03:21 GMT
#179
let's go KT!! beat CJ and get to the finals!!
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
July 24 2011 03:22 GMT
#180
I hope GTR is here, i like his stream
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