Would have been GSL in previous seasons; now they're trying to cater to allow more sh1tty teams in. It was better when it was the top 8; it gave teams a reason to train and prove they belonged not only as individuals, but as a cohesive group that can supplement eachother's strengths and weaknesses. Now half the time its just going to be teams like FXO being roflstomped each week, and the best teams will rarely meet.

tree.hugger

Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts

July 19 2011 15:13 GMT

Where's the option for common sense seeding like OSL, MSL, and every other sport on the planet?

Slakter

Sweden1947 Posts

July 19 2011 15:19 GMT

On July 20 2011 00:13 tree.hugger wrote:
Where's the option for common sense seeding like OSL, MSL, and every other sport on the planet?

Quote for the truth.

Bring in Courage to SC2 and we might get a more stable scene.

Dezire

Netherlands640 Posts

July 19 2011 15:21 GMT

I like code S/A more just for the fact that you can root for your favorite player there instead of a whole team. i mean i like MC alot but i dont care all that much about the rest of the team.

mute20

Canada175 Posts

July 19 2011 15:33 GMT

I like the super league cause we get see a good variety of veterans vs new up and coming players.

Cheebah

210 Posts

July 19 2011 15:45 GMT

Now that GOM decided to grant a few code A spots based on achievements in other tournaments, the code A/S format is gonna be insanely good.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

July 19 2011 15:48 GMT

On July 20 2011 00:13 SpunXtain wrote:
Now half the time its just going to be teams like FXO being roflstomped each week, and the best teams will rarely meet.

Well, not really, now that they are FXOKorea they have a chancce of winning some games, especially since FXOKorea can use Sheth (in case you are wondering, FXO has acquired team fOu, and they have joined FXO!)

xxpack09

United States2160 Posts

July 19 2011 16:01 GMT

On July 20 2011 00:13 tree.hugger wrote:
Where's the option for common sense seeding like OSL, MSL, and every other sport on the planet?

Or how about a full round robin proleague instead of a half one?

Or 6 round robins with BOTH winner's league and normal Bo7 PL formats? (SPL this year)

Ysorigin

United States82 Posts

July 19 2011 16:04 GMT

Yea I liked the earlier season of GSTL but any tournament with "group" stages, I can just never get into. I like the Super tourney because it is just a straight bracket, but it is only a little bit better than the Code S/A format

Damnight

Germany222 Posts

July 19 2011 16:06 GMT

#10

I LOOOOOVE the Code A and Code S Format. It´s so exciting and fun. The GSTL is very refreshing, but on the long run i would choose the Code Format. GSTS was nice but it is not made to be for th long term. Hopefully there will be more foreign teams in the future

, i like to see them loose against my hero koreans :D

sixfour

England11060 Posts

July 19 2011 16:19 GMT

#11

there needs to be an option for none of the above. straight knockout sucks. code s/a sucks as there's not enough refreshing of the player pool, can easily just seed the top 32 or whatever into a later stage as is done in the osl/msl. teamleague is still in its infancy and could catch on i guess, but needs to be tweaked some more. i've not seen a single really good format, the closest is probably mlg if they can make it so that people in pools don't have quite as much of an advantage over the open bracket

ptrpb

Canada753 Posts

July 19 2011 16:24 GMT

#12

Code S / Code A strikes me in the best way because of the importance of Code S over Code A and the status that comes with it. I wish GOM casted the GSL Code A Prelims, that would be so intense to watch.

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

July 19 2011 16:44 GMT

#13

I think the entire Code S/A/B system is so convoluted and pointlessly bad, as it forces anyone coming into the scene to forcibly wait 2 seasons just to get to the point where you can actually win the major tournament proper. I prefer GSTL to the other two just because I like team leagues, but I don't see why they can't just rip off the qualification systems from every other sport ever of all time that has 1v1 formats and do just a simple qualification and seeding bracket. I'd like if the teamleague just round robin'd like in SPL.

rabidch

United States20287 Posts

July 19 2011 17:24 GMT

#14

i hate all of them, especially Code S/Code A and GSL super. not voting

to clarify: code system takes way too long for new people to get into code s plus it's really crummy to see foreigners get free slots when somebody's been working their ass off to win code A

and straight knockout is a bad format

jax1492

United States1632 Posts

July 19 2011 17:35 GMT

#15

I like the good old GSL code S and code A tournaments, i have not watched the GTSL much so far.

p4NDemik

United States13896 Posts

July 19 2011 17:36 GMT

#16

I don't particularly like the GSL Super Tournament huge single elimination format at all.

And I've never been a fan of the speed at which Code-A/Code-S are completed, and completed simultaneously. The storylines hardly seem to have any time to grow and develop, unlike the MSL and OSL where there is a build up for a few months before you get to the finals of a season. Each format Gom uses is far inferior in my eyes to OSL/MSL.

So by process of elimination I picked GSTL. As far as a team league goes it isn't optimal and is still way too short but its the thing I'm most interested in every week as far as Korean SC2 goes and it is headed in the right direction this season. Hopefully Gom will continue to expand the GSTL to 4-5 days a week and then begin to stretch out Code-A and Code-S.

Seriously, go Code-A for 3 weeks -> Up/Down for 1 week or whatever (I don't know how Up-down works anymore) -> then GSL Code-S for a month and a half/two months. You could follow players as they rise through Code-A/Code-S, have more time between matches to sufficiently build some hype, and have more time between tournaments to make them feel a little more prestigious.

Torenhire

United States11681 Posts

July 19 2011 18:14 GMT

#17

D) None of the above. They're all way too complex, and I totally agree with Pandemik that they should reorganize GSL like that. I'd like that the best out of them all. I picked GSTL because it was the least...messed up or strange.

MSL/OSL format would be perfect.

garlicface

Canada4196 Posts

July 19 2011 18:47 GMT

#18

I voted for GSL Super just because it has the least problems, imo. Code A/S has just become far too boring for me. GSTL could be better if it was GOM's main priority, and got more than 2 days a week.

The Final Boss

United States1839 Posts

July 19 2011 18:54 GMT

#19

On July 20 2011 00:48 GhandiEAGLE wrote:

Show nested quote +

That's not true:

FXOKorea and FXOpen are different teams.
Sheth is no longer in Korea and he won't be because he didn't enjoy it.
Also the only team fOu or FXOKorea would ever beat reliably in the GSTL is FXOpen.

That being said, the only reason a third of the matches so far have been FXO getting smashed is because they're playing the first five weeks whereas the next five weeks should be more focused on Group A. Who isn't excited to watch more of SlayerS, MvP, oGs, TSL, Prime, and F. United (THORZAIN FIGHTING!!!!!!!!). I'm sure the next five weeks will be more exciting games. That being said I wish that GSTL occurred more often than two days a week, I think I would enjoy it a lot more.

GSTL got my vote.

ComusLoM

Norway3547 Posts

July 19 2011 19:10 GMT

#20

Code S basically provides a salary for those good enough to be there, which is what I feel like was the main intention, to allow people to live from Starcraft without a salary. Now that we have established teams it feels less important, but I still like the prestige that surrounds Code S. That being said I do love winners league format of the GSTL. But I'd love a Full year of SC, like proleague.