• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:43
CEST 00:43
KST 07:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202561RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings The StarCraft 2 GOAT - An in-depth analysis EWC 2025 details: $700k total prize; GSL, DH Dallas confirmed Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BW General Discussion Dewalt's Show Matches in China
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food!
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 651 users

Serious Business

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 19:17:14
December 16 2008 12:30 GMT
#1
tl;dr

An individual’s most valuable asset is obviously him or herself – knowledge, skills, experience, etc. What then is the second most valuable asset one can have? To me the answer is obvious. It’s other people’s assets that indirectly become my own through friendship and acquaintance. This fact underlies the fact that so many people – including myself – answer the question “what is the most important thing you gained at college?” with something along the lines of “the people I’ve met and become friends with.” This is what truly separates the best schools from the rest, since the education content is comparable between any set of respectable institutions. A student that works his butt off at a state college can easily develop a more potent mind than the Ivy League counterpart. But that student cannot escape the handicap of being deprived of the level influence and inspiration that comes only from one’s peers.

It goes well beyond the academic scope as we age and mature. If we need expert advice we can ask our friends for referrals if they themselves aren’t the expert. When it comes time for you to seriously consider investment options, your friend who went into banking will gladly offer help and/or recommend a good manager. If you need to kill that guy who slept with your wife, you can ask Kennigit to go ninja his sorry behind (or front, if that suits your style of payback). Situations where you’d have to spend a great deal of money and time to even get the bearings straight are greatly simplified because of the mutual network of friends and acquaintances.

I say acquaintances because just ‘knowing’ someone even on the loosest terms makes it infinitely easier and more likely that they will oblige to your request. For instance, if you are a businessman and you want to get in touch with some VP you don’t know, you can ask that other VP in the same company who you’d done a little work with to contact him. I heard a story from Tim Ferris (iirc it was him) that his friend’s goal while being in a MBA program wasn’t to graduate at the head of the class, or to get into a great consulting firm; it was to call and have lunch with every single one of the businessmen whose business cards he had somehow accumulated (it was some gigantic stack) before he graduated.

Every opportunity for meeting capable individuals should be taken advantage of to the fullest. In this day and age this is no longer limited to in-person contacts. Consider for a few moments the friends you have made on TL.net alone and the mutual value you have to one another through your respective studies and expertise. Just off the top of my head I count 3 future lawyers, 9+ programmers, a handful of biologists, 2 doctors, a crap ton of engineers/physicists/mathematicians, a few great writers (hi Etter, how’s your hand doing~), 1 hair expert, probably about 15 different languages spoken, along with about a hundred degenerates to make me feel better about myself. While it sounds utterly terrible to say something like “take advantage of your acquaintances,” as long as the relationship is symbiotic and mutual it can be positively maintained, as both sides recognize the benefit of helping each other out when asked. A unique part of our community is that we have several opportunities (i.e. excuses) a year to take off our online guise and meet each other in person, be it at Blizzcon, WCG, or just random OSL finals get-togethers.

We really should stop making excuses to not come out to these ‘events’ and should strive to organize more low-key meetings locally, particularly in hotspots like the Bay area, Los Angeles, and New York. For instance, I still haven’t met Tiffany and he lives like 30 minutes away! I know it’s hard to spontaneously get together without an excuse – hence the finals meet ups and LANs tend to be popular. Honestly though through my experience you don’t even need these, because you can thoroughly enjoy yourselves by just shit-talking forum retards and have a good laugh about it. The release of SC2 – beta or for real – should become another catalyst for members to have smaller but more frequent gatherings. Seriously guys, I’ve met something on the order of 50 TL.netters in person and I can only name one guy who was unbearably annoying while the overwhelming majority were tremendous individuals.

The opportunities and benefits for each and every one of us should grow in the next 5 years as the sudden increase in disposable income will allow us to expand our range of travel significantly (although a fulltime job will make it somewhat difficult to arrange for adequate time). And as we become more ‘free’, our value proposition to others will increase dramatically as well, as we will be actually doing shit that matters for a change.

TL’s strongest attribute is its community and the strong sense of connection amongst one another that stems from the site’s intolerance against morons and the respect we have for one another (with a few exceptions of course). It is because we interact with consistent personas that we come to believe that we know ‘who’ we all are. It takes something special to feel like we know one another well without having met one another in person, and TL has captured that magic. Before being a part of this community, I could have never imagined myself meeting someone from online – yet when the opportunity presented itself, I felt no hesitation to make it happen. It’s a sentiment that I know many others share on this site, having heard from them myself.

Hence you yourself should take advantage of the tremendous opportunity that TL offers you. But in order to meet people and feel comfortable about it, you need to know the others’ persona and more importantly, they need to know yours and be confident in it. For this to happen, you need to interact with others actively – be it through discussions, writing, drawing, talking, playing, coding, flaming, joking, translating, whining, uploading. The bottom line is that you need to make yourself heard and make yourself seen. That doesn’t mean spam a thousand posts a week in live report threads – that does nothing to depict who you are as a person except that you have way too much time on your hands and your sleep pattern is messed up (like mine was during college). If you love to live report, by all means keep doing it. But without participating in something that will actually show people who you are and why they should give a two shits, you are never going to be able to form a character that people will recognize and remember. There are people with 200 posts with clearly defined personas, while there are plenty others with thousands of posts who are but vague recollections in others’ minds.

Make your time here meaningful and actually be a part of its community. Otherwise, why are you even here?


from the replies:

On December 17 2008 01:40 Xusneb wrote:
I've been a lurker for a long time so this is just from my perspective.

WHY DO I LURK?

I've been visiting TL frequently for over four years and I've only started posting recently. I didn't even make an account until a few years into my visits. I think there's a few reasons for this.

In real life, when you 'post' an opinion, you usually get a response. When I discuss a topic with a friend, there is real-time rapport as we exchange ideas. This conversation is what we're used to - this back and forth talk.

There are many differences online. On the internet, when one posts an opinion, there is a chance for a response. Someone might quote you, although more often than not it's to laugh at you or ridicule you. For less articulated individuals such as myself, my ideas may be taken out of context. Then, by the time I find out, the topic is 10 days old and closed. But the vast majority of the time, nothing happens. Noone quotes you and your opinion is not acknowledged as the later posts soon leave your ideas isolated on page 3 or something.

This is so darn different from what I'm used to. I remember I posted a bit earlier in my years thinking to myself "wow, people are gonna love this idea! I wonder how many people will share these beliefs and respond with their own stories?" However, to my disappointment, my "brilliant insight" was completely overlooked as the next posts devolved into a flame war. As this kept happening, the negative reinforcement just turned me off posting online, anywhere. What was the point? People online ignore you whereas people in real life listen to my rants and respond with rants of their own. This was my mentality as a lurker.

Personally speaking as a science major, I think our brains are hard-wired to behave a certain way. We've evolved to be used to real-life circumstances where our insatiable hunger for social acceptance is more easily appeased. Things are different online but luckily for us homo sapiens, we can adapt to new situations and environments.

Of course, the story doesn't end there. I'm typing this up and I've overcome my "lurking". One day, I just realized the internet isn't real life. There are differences, for better or for worse, and I have to just accept them. To function socially online, I realized I had to abandon my excessive real-life social needs for acknowledgment and acceptance. Actually, I also analyzed my own behaviour on these forums. I mean, as a lurker, I'm part of the problem. I'm not acknowledging people! Too often, I just read their comments, think "wow, that was interesting", and move on. I could have easily quoted the man and commented "thanks for sharing!". Bam, problem solved. Plus, I realized that everytime I post something, people will read it. TL has a large community and I'm sure someone will read my post even if they don't physically acknowledge it with a quote or comment. Knowing that 1) online isn't real life; 2) I'm part of the problem; and 3) people are reading my posts, has really helped me shed my lurking skin.

So to the lurkers that share my views, I advise you to post. If a topic irks you, post your opinion. If someone says something completely wrong about something, don't be afraid to correct him with your expert knowledge. If you feel you have something more to add to a topic, add it! You may not get acknowledged all the time like in real life but you will be getting through to real people.

Anyways, this is all opinion. I hope someone reads it!

Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 12:31:43
December 16 2008 12:31 GMT
#2
SIR YES SIR!

EDIT: only a minute? fuck it felt like ages.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
December 16 2008 12:37 GMT
#3
awesome. sticky this?

just curious, what made you write this? it seems to have come from nowhere.

and why is your post count going backwards?
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 16 2008 13:04 GMT
#4
i know all sorts of powerful people

they always like me

probably because i don't lick their balls like most people
why so 진지해?
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
December 16 2008 13:29 GMT
#5
i think i know the "one" person :p
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 16 2008 13:32 GMT
#6
maybe i should have given this a proper title haha.
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
December 16 2008 14:48 GMT
#7
Or I'll just give it a little bump in the right direction.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-17 07:12:47
December 16 2008 14:50 GMT
#8
I wholeheartedly agree with the greater participation part of people that visit teamliquid.net daily.
I don't agree with a few things though, good op regardless. I will add a little more later but now I have to run to work.

+ Show Spoiler +
9*. Lurking for a few weeks or a couple of months until you the feel for the forum is fine, but lurking for years just makes you a selfish member.

i.e. There is no good reason to lurk for months on end; either you are a selfish prick, and are here just to take, or a coward too afraid to post.. also not posting to "get back at teamliquid" just makes you a passive-aggressive lamer. If you are going to spend time here, participate, add, share. No matter the excuse there is got to be something good in you worth sharing. *obvious handicaps excluded (physical and virtual, like getting banned etc.. ).

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=59762
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 14:54:02
December 16 2008 14:53 GMT
#9
I'm always at the events - although during finals I'm especially AWOL (usually down at the front taking photos.) However, it's been a lot of fun to meet tl-ers in Seoul - I've met a lot of people (some more recently than others.) and I'm always willing to at least have a quick chat during the events with foreign fans (or non tl-netters even.) It's just that sometimes the whole work element gets in the way of socialising during the events (not that I mind once I get lost in taking pics lol.)
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
December 16 2008 14:55 GMT
#10
that was an inspirational read

<3 hajime
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 16 2008 15:55 GMT
#11
haji I want to meet you sometime!

You could also point out that a lot of the coolest most recent TL features stem from making contacts at WCG/Blizzcon/etc.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
December 16 2008 15:58 GMT
#12
Jeesh, now I guess I need to stop making excuses like "its 94 miles each way to the San Mateo LAN" and "I will have so much work from the break piled up..."

Damn you haji!
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 16 2008 16:04 GMT
#13
I drove 500 miles to Anaheim and back AND suffered a speeding ticket and it was all worth it!
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
December 16 2008 16:06 GMT
#14
er why does your profile have something that looks a lot like travian. are you playing another season?
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
December 16 2008 16:09 GMT
#15
Amen

Well said :D
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 16 2008 16:09 GMT
#16
On December 17 2008 01:06 maleorderbride wrote:
er why does your profile have something that looks a lot like travian. are you playing another season?


that's my original travian coord haha.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 16 2008 16:12 GMT
#17
chill how many miles did we fly to paris?
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
December 16 2008 16:40 GMT
#18
I've been a lurker for a long time so this is just from my perspective.

WHY DO I LURK?

I've been visiting TL frequently for over four years and I've only started posting recently. I didn't even make an account until a few years into my visits. I think there's a few reasons for this.

In real life, when you 'post' an opinion, you usually get a response. When I discuss a topic with a friend, there is real-time rapport as we exchange ideas. This conversation is what we're used to - this back and forth talk.

There are many differences online. On the internet, when one posts an opinion, there is a chance for a response. Someone might quote you, although more often than not it's to laugh at you or ridicule you. For less articulated individuals such as myself, my ideas may be taken out of context. Then, by the time I find out, the topic is 10 days old and closed. But the vast majority of the time, nothing happens. Noone quotes you and your opinion is not acknowledged as the later posts soon leave your ideas isolated on page 3 or something.

This is so darn different from what I'm used to. I remember I posted a bit earlier in my years thinking to myself "wow, people are gonna love this idea! I wonder how many people will share these beliefs and respond with their own stories?" However, to my disappointment, my "brilliant insight" was completely overlooked as the next posts devolved into a flame war. As this kept happening, the negative reinforcement just turned me off posting online, anywhere. What was the point? People online ignore you whereas people in real life listen to my rants and respond with rants of their own. This was my mentality as a lurker.

Personally speaking as a science major, I think our brains are hard-wired to behave a certain way. We've evolved to be used to real-life circumstances where our insatiable hunger for social acceptance is more easily appeased. Things are different online but luckily for us homo sapiens, we can adapt to new situations and environments.

Of course, the story doesn't end there. I'm typing this up and I've overcome my "lurking". One day, I just realized the internet isn't real life. There are differences, for better or for worse, and I have to just accept them. To function socially online, I realized I had to abandon my excessive real-life social needs for acknowledgment and acceptance. Actually, I also analyzed my own behaviour on these forums. I mean, as a lurker, I'm part of the problem. I'm not acknowledging people! Too often, I just read their comments, think "wow, that was interesting", and move on. I could have easily quoted the man and commented "thanks for sharing!". Bam, problem solved. Plus, I realized that everytime I post something, people will read it. TL has a large community and I'm sure someone will read my post even if they don't physically acknowledge it with a quote or comment. Knowing that 1) online isn't real life; 2) I'm part of the problem; and 3) people are reading my posts, has really helped me shed my lurking skin.

So to the lurkers that share my views, I advise you to post. If a topic irks you, post your opinion. If someone says something completely wrong about something, don't be afraid to correct him with your expert knowledge. If you feel you have something more to add to a topic, add it! You may not get acknowledged all the time like in real life but you will be getting through to real people.

Anyways, this is all opinion. I hope someone reads it!
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 16:52:17
December 16 2008 16:50 GMT
#19
Sometimes I'm to lazy to even login to state an opinion...

I guess this sums up my individuality...Oh and I had lurked for about 6 months before creating an account (which was in Dec of 2007) then had to lurk another 4 months before a tl.netizen (which referred me to the site) contacted meat so he could activate my account b/c for some reason my yahoo wasn't receiving the confirmation e-mail....Most of the time I only (edit)feel good about posting in the high thread...I should join a pot forum even thou I only smoke about 3-5 times a year currently...
ya had ya shot kid!
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 18:19:38
December 16 2008 18:19 GMT
#20
On December 17 2008 01:40 Xusneb wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I've been a lurker for a long time so this is just from my perspective.

WHY DO I LURK?

I've been visiting TL frequently for over four years and I've only started posting recently. I didn't even make an account until a few years into my visits. I think there's a few reasons for this.

In real life, when you 'post' an opinion, you usually get a response. When I discuss a topic with a friend, there is real-time rapport as we exchange ideas. This conversation is what we're used to - this back and forth talk.

There are many differences online. On the internet, when one posts an opinion, there is a chance for a response. Someone might quote you, although more often than not it's to laugh at you or ridicule you. For less articulated individuals such as myself, my ideas may be taken out of context. Then, by the time I find out, the topic is 10 days old and closed. But the vast majority of the time, nothing happens. Noone quotes you and your opinion is not acknowledged as the later posts soon leave your ideas isolated on page 3 or something.

This is so darn different from what I'm used to. I remember I posted a bit earlier in my years thinking to myself "wow, people are gonna love this idea! I wonder how many people will share these beliefs and respond with their own stories?" However, to my disappointment, my "brilliant insight" was completely overlooked as the next posts devolved into a flame war. As this kept happening, the negative reinforcement just turned me off posting online, anywhere. What was the point? People online ignore you whereas people in real life listen to my rants and respond with rants of their own. This was my mentality as a lurker.

Personally speaking as a science major, I think our brains are hard-wired to behave a certain way. We've evolved to be used to real-life circumstances where our insatiable hunger for social acceptance is more easily appeased. Things are different online but luckily for us homo sapiens, we can adapt to new situations and environments.

Of course, the story doesn't end there. I'm typing this up and I've overcome my "lurking". One day, I just realized the internet isn't real life. There are differences, for better or for worse, and I have to just accept them. To function socially online, I realized I had to abandon my excessive real-life social needs for acknowledgment and acceptance. Actually, I also analyzed my own behaviour on these forums. I mean, as a lurker, I'm part of the problem. I'm not acknowledging people! Too often, I just read their comments, think "wow, that was interesting", and move on. I could have easily quoted the man and commented "thanks for sharing!". Bam, problem solved. Plus, I realized that everytime I post something, people will read it. TL has a large community and I'm sure someone will read my post even if they don't physically acknowledge it with a quote or comment. Knowing that 1) online isn't real life; 2) I'm part of the problem; and 3) people are reading my posts, has really helped me shed my lurking skin.

So to the lurkers that share my views, I advise you to post. If a topic irks you, post your opinion. If someone says something completely wrong about something, don't be afraid to correct him with your expert knowledge. If you feel you have something more to add to a topic, add it! You may not get acknowledged all the time like in real life but you will be getting through to real people.

Anyways, this is all opinion. I hope someone reads it!


Great post
so true
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 204
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 444
Dota 2
monkeys_forever411
capcasts206
League of Legends
Grubby4605
Counter-Strike
Fnx 2354
Stewie2K623
taco 358
flusha323
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King135
AZ_Axe79
Liquid`Ken29
Other Games
tarik_tv18149
summit1g10454
gofns7973
FrodaN1854
C9.Mang0196
ViBE82
PPMD30
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 64
• poizon28 41
• musti20045 32
• RyuSc2 28
• davetesta16
• Adnapsc2 9
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 33
• FirePhoenix3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22567
League of Legends
• Doublelift3797
Other Games
• imaqtpie1128
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
11h 17m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
15h 17m
CSO Cup
17h 17m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
19h 17m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
1d 10h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 15h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 19h
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.