• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:26
CEST 20:26
KST 03:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1461 users

August TLPD Win Rates

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 11:25:07
September 12 2012 10:53 GMT
#1
International = Protoss 46.6% - Terran 51.3% - Zerg 52.2% / PvT 46.3% - ZvT 51.1% - ZvP 53.1%

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Colorblind Version] +
[image loading]

http://twitter.com/SC2Statistics/status/245806657186172928

We look to be missing some games. especially Korea, so I'll hold those charts for a while.
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
SCG.StatiC
Profile Joined April 2012
South Africa33 Posts
September 12 2012 11:16 GMT
#2
No korean stats? Anyway protoss is back to having the lowest winrate so everything is normal.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
September 12 2012 11:22 GMT
#3
Would be interesting to see KR winrates given how well Protoss did in WCS, GSL etc.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
September 12 2012 11:24 GMT
#4
interesting change in winrates even without the proposed balance change; will be interesting to see the korean ones
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Grapefruit
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 11:59:08
September 12 2012 11:58 GMT
#5
Aaand here we go again. Nice to see how much the win-rates can fluctuate without any balance changes.
Starcraft 2 is funny, everybody picks the race, which he considers to be the weakest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
September 12 2012 12:02 GMT
#6
So protoss players still didnt learn how to play this game and zvt is getting more and more balanced. Cant wait to see korean graphs though.
The one || My stream http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/syriuszonito
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
September 12 2012 12:03 GMT
#7
On September 12 2012 21:02 syriuszonito wrote:
So protoss players still didnt learn how to play this game and zvt is getting more and more balanced. Cant wait to see korean graphs though.

all the good protoss goes to korea
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
September 12 2012 12:04 GMT
#8
Oh lawd... At least HotS will be out soonish... I hope blizz is looking at these charts and the current state of the beta
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 12 2012 12:05 GMT
#9
z v t is looking good, protoss winrates just dropped again this month lol.
Moderatorlickypiddy
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 12 2012 12:09 GMT
#10
seeing how well protoss did in wcs korea lol, i dont think it will be this bad for toss in korea
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 12 2012 12:10 GMT
#11
Woaa... Protoss getting destroyed in August? Felt quite the other way around :O
Probably watching too much Korean Starcraft, but who knows how those winrates look like?
Enel
Profile Joined April 2012
Sudan430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 12:15:09
September 12 2012 12:13 GMT
#12
atleast it isnt 44% for protoss like it was for like a year, but who wants protoss to be good? since protoss started winning, the game has been less fun to watch.
Go Sudan
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
September 12 2012 12:13 GMT
#13
I think the game is pretty balanced. The small 3-4% don't really matter and will shift with the metagame.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 12:22:47
September 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#14
TvP has Terran ahead by 7.5%, and ZvP has Zerg ahead by 6.2%... what's supposedly the "permissible" range of balance error? 10% total, to account for a split of 5% in each direction?


I wonder what the fundamental reasons for Protoss losing again is... historically, they've done the worst (by far). Is it a lower skill ceiling? Design issues? We just really don't know what the hell we're doing? This month is just a fluke?

It doesn't seem too bad overall.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
September 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#15
Meh no korean stats. Just look at how the Korean top Tosses dominated WCS. If you are good enough Protoss is in a great spot.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 12:24:57
September 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#16
Nestea got stomped.

edit: wrong thread.

OT: game balanced
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 12 2012 12:25 GMT
#17
On September 12 2012 21:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
TvP has Terran ahead by 7.5%, and ZvP has Zerg ahead by 6.2%... what's supposedly the "permissible" range of balance error? 10% total, to account for a split of 5% in each direction?


I wonder what the fundamental reasons for Protoss losing again is... historically, they've done the worst (by far). Is it a lower skill ceiling? Design issues? We just really don't know what the hell we're doing? This month is just a fluke?

It doesn't seem too bad overall.


I think they have too many amove units. You can not micro zealots and colossi to perfection like you can do it with marines.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 12:27:07
September 12 2012 12:25 GMT
#18
Looks ok, expected protoss to look better, which is probably the case in the Korean stats with the WCS korea games.
Romanes eunt domus
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 12 2012 12:29 GMT
#19
On September 12 2012 21:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
TvP has Terran ahead by 7.5%, and ZvP has Zerg ahead by 6.2%... what's supposedly the "permissible" range of balance error? 10% total, to account for a split of 5% in each direction?


I wonder what the fundamental reasons for Protoss losing again is... historically, they've done the worst (by far). Is it a lower skill ceiling? Design issues? We just really don't know what the hell we're doing? This month is just a fluke?

It doesn't seem too bad overall.


Hopefully just a fluke. Hoping for Korea to show 50-50-50
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 12 2012 12:34 GMT
#20
Well it looks good. I have a hard time seeing protoss as the "weakest" race tho, even tho it's by a very slim margin.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14h 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech128
Railgan 62
NeuroSwarm 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4262
Mind 569
actioN 249
Dewaltoss 145
Hyuk 139
Sexy 37
Hm[arnc] 24
GoRush 19
yabsab 18
Terrorterran 15
[ Show more ]
soO 12
NaDa 10
Dota 2
Gorgc6535
qojqva3269
420jenkins326
Counter-Strike
fl0m2523
pashabiceps1601
zeus497
edward95
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor178
MindelVK16
Other Games
Grubby2941
FrodaN1731
Beastyqt654
ArmadaUGS115
C9.Mang091
Livibee83
Trikslyr72
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 24
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 98
• Adnapsc2 28
• Reevou 13
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV700
• lizZardDota243
League of Legends
• Nemesis2078
• Jankos1986
Other Games
• imaqtpie863
• Shiphtur212
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
14h 34m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 34m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.