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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 12 2012 14:04 GMT
#41
On September 12 2012 23:02 NexCa wrote:
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On September 12 2012 22:53 Doublemint wrote:
I am pretty surprised by the TvP stats.

ZvP however, not so much ^_^


yea, sad, but true ... Zerg's still dominating in ZvP with ease


meanwhile get ready for over 55% PvZ in korea
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8636 Posts
September 12 2012 14:07 GMT
#42
On September 12 2012 23:04 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:02 NexCa wrote:
On September 12 2012 22:53 Doublemint wrote:
I am pretty surprised by the TvP stats.

ZvP however, not so much ^_^


yea, sad, but true ... Zerg's still dominating in ZvP with ease


meanwhile get ready for over 55% PvZ in korea


Will quote you later if that turns out correct, which I doubt to be honest.

Though Korea always was "different".
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
September 12 2012 14:12 GMT
#43
Cuz the other 70% of toss players are pulling down the win rates while creator, parting, squrtle is carrying the win rates
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 12 2012 14:16 GMT
#44
On September 12 2012 23:02 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 22:53 Doublemint wrote:
I am pretty surprised by the TvP stats.

ZvP however, not so much ^_^


yea, sad, but true ... Zerg's still dominating in ZvP with ease


At least lategame if Protoss dont get a good vortex then they win >_>
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 12 2012 14:17 GMT
#45
On September 12 2012 23:04 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:02 NexCa wrote:
On September 12 2012 22:53 Doublemint wrote:
I am pretty surprised by the TvP stats.

ZvP however, not so much ^_^


yea, sad, but true ... Zerg's still dominating in ZvP with ease


meanwhile get ready for over 55% PvZ in korea


Two base all ins.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Excelsiorrr
Profile Joined September 2012
United States4 Posts
September 12 2012 14:26 GMT
#46
I definitely think that the Korean toss win rates will be much higher. If you just look at the quality of foreign protoss it just isn't nearly as good relative to the Koreans as say zerg is.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
September 12 2012 14:28 GMT
#47
Protoss is weak in WoL and weak in HotS. Zeratul fucked someones mother from Blizzard i assume.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
September 12 2012 14:33 GMT
#48
On September 12 2012 22:49 MrCon wrote:
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On September 12 2012 22:42 arew wrote:
On September 12 2012 22:15 Tuczniak wrote:
Looks pretty good.
Let's wait what Korea will show.


Does it look good with the current percentage of protoss winning games?:D Funny...

What...it's basically completely balanced, so if protoss is at 49.99% in both matchups people will only see "under 50%" and say something is wrong ?
I mean, there are the graphs then there are the games. I don't think protoss have any ground to not be happy with the current state of sc2.


The one legitimate complaint we have is that it's annoying as fuck in lategame pvz to rely on a single vortex to make or break the game. Other than that yeah, the game looks and feels pretty good right now i'd say.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 12 2012 14:34 GMT
#49
Protoss is totaly the weakest race.
Look at all these protoss in Korea doing so bad. /sarcasm

Game look pretty well balanced.
Dustin was perhaps right afterall, Queen change wasn't so bad..
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 12 2012 14:42 GMT
#50
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 12 2012 14:46 GMT
#51
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...


Don't forget Creator winning TSL4
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
September 12 2012 14:47 GMT
#52
On September 12 2012 23:07 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:04 X3GoldDot wrote:
On September 12 2012 23:02 NexCa wrote:
On September 12 2012 22:53 Doublemint wrote:
I am pretty surprised by the TvP stats.

ZvP however, not so much ^_^


yea, sad, but true ... Zerg's still dominating in ZvP with ease


meanwhile get ready for over 55% PvZ in korea


Will quote you later if that turns out correct, which I doubt to be honest.

Though Korea always was "different".


its worse, korean tlpd shows a 62,5% win ratio pvz for august (40-24)
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
September 12 2012 14:48 GMT
#53
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...

That's a ridiculously small percentage of Protoss players. And not indicative of anything, except that they either got lucky or played worse opponents. Says nothing about the race as a whole, which is what the statistics are meant to indicate.
Skype: divito7
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
September 12 2012 14:51 GMT
#54
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...

You do realize that TLPD has around 60 PvZ games, right? As in, not many at all.
Pinna
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland152 Posts
September 12 2012 14:53 GMT
#55
On September 12 2012 23:51 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...

You do realize that TLPD has around 60 PvZ games, right? As in, not many at all.

Yea, thats why my mid-master protoss friend loosing to a grandmaster zerg counts, but Squirtle beating the likes of DRG doesn't.
School..
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8636 Posts
September 12 2012 14:57 GMT
#56
On September 12 2012 23:53 Pinna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:51 Shiori wrote:
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...

You do realize that TLPD has around 60 PvZ games, right? As in, not many at all.

Yea, thats why my mid-master protoss friend loosing to a grandmaster zerg counts, but Squirtle beating the likes of DRG doesn't.


If you brought a better example you might have a point... but Squirtle nowadays is playing amazing SC2 and DRG, currently, not so much.
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 12 2012 14:59 GMT
#57
On September 12 2012 23:48 divito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...

That's a ridiculously small percentage of Protoss players. And not indicative of anything, except that they either got lucky or played worse opponents. Says nothing about the race as a whole, which is what the statistics are meant to indicate.


Yeah, nobodies playing in online cups in NA and EU say more about the race as a whole than the best players in the world, playing in the most competitive tournaments in the world.

Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 12 2012 15:07 GMT
#58
On September 12 2012 23:48 divito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...

That's a ridiculously small percentage of Protoss players. And not indicative of anything, except that they either got lucky or played worse opponents. Says nothing about the race as a whole, which is what the statistics are meant to indicate.


Terran is fine now and for months only 1 or 2 terrans were doing even good.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
September 12 2012 15:14 GMT
#59
On September 12 2012 23:59 sitromit wrote:
Yeah, nobodies playing in online cups in NA and EU say more about the race as a whole than the best players in the world, playing in the most competitive tournaments in the world.

You're going to have a very skewed game if you only balance a small group of players and their results.
Skype: divito7
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
September 12 2012 15:16 GMT
#60
On September 12 2012 23:42 sitromit wrote:
PvP finals in GSL, all Protoss Semis in WCS Korea, Protoss wins 3 out of 4 groups Ro16 OSL, people claim Protoss weakest race... Mind boggles...


You have a very small mind my friend. Basically Creator goes on a tear winning WCS and TSL4, and Seed and MC are in the GSL Finals and now Protoss isn't weak?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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