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Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
September 12 2012 12:35 GMT
#21
I really doubt Korean stats will look like this. Of course it is only my impression but T and P seems to do much better there.
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 12 2012 12:37 GMT
#22
On September 12 2012 21:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
TvP has Terran ahead by 7.5%, and ZvP has Zerg ahead by 6.2%... what's supposedly the "permissible" range of balance error? 10% total, to account for a split of 5% in each direction?


I wonder what the fundamental reasons for Protoss losing again is... historically, they've done the worst (by far). Is it a lower skill ceiling? Design issues? We just really don't know what the hell we're doing? This month is just a fluke?

It doesn't seem too bad overall.


korea should show the opposite with creator, squirtle, seed, parting dominating wcs korea
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Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
September 12 2012 12:38 GMT
#23
this must mean terran is op again.
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
September 12 2012 12:40 GMT
#24
On September 12 2012 21:38 Finnz wrote:
this must mean terran is op again.


What do you think, where Blizz should nerf us again? Is there even possibility to nerf Terran at the moment?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46308 Posts
September 12 2012 12:41 GMT
#25
On September 12 2012 21:40 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 21:38 Finnz wrote:
this must mean terran is op again.


What do you think, where Blizz should nerf us again? Is there even possibility to nerf Terran at the moment?


Obviously nerf the bunkers
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4558 Posts
September 12 2012 12:42 GMT
#26
On September 12 2012 21:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
TvP has Terran ahead by 7.5%, and ZvP has Zerg ahead by 6.2%... what's supposedly the "permissible" range of balance error? 10% total, to account for a split of 5% in each direction?


I wonder what the fundamental reasons for Protoss losing again is... historically, they've done the worst (by far). Is it a lower skill ceiling? Design issues? We just really don't know what the hell we're doing? This month is just a fluke?

It doesn't seem too bad overall.

It's a complete fluke. Serious, just look at previous going back to 2010.
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RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
September 12 2012 13:01 GMT
#27
No Blizzard it is completely unacceptable to not immediately patch everything, leaving them meta to work itself out is ridiculous and will never happen.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
September 12 2012 13:15 GMT
#28
Looks pretty good.
Let's wait what Korea will show.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 12 2012 13:17 GMT
#29
International win rates mean nothing. Protoss have been absolutely dominating in Korea.
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
September 12 2012 13:24 GMT
#30
What the hell happened to PvT?
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 12 2012 13:28 GMT
#31
I'm not at all surprised by this.
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DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
September 12 2012 13:34 GMT
#32
Balance is looking good.
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 13:38:44
September 12 2012 13:37 GMT
#33
I'm not sure if these stats are stored in a SQL or XML table.

If that's the case, I would be interested in having access to them in order to gather data from several months and make a 3D chart (using the length of the game).
So we would know which strong timings have appeared, if broodlords/infestors are truely balanced in the late game etc...
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arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
September 12 2012 13:42 GMT
#34
On September 12 2012 22:15 Tuczniak wrote:
Looks pretty good.
Let's wait what Korea will show.


Does it look good with the current percentage of protoss winning games?:D Funny...
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 12 2012 13:44 GMT
#35
Sad Zealot inc
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
September 12 2012 13:47 GMT
#36
On September 12 2012 22:42 arew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 22:15 Tuczniak wrote:
Looks pretty good.
Let's wait what Korea will show.


Does it look good with the current percentage of protoss winning games?:D Funny...
Well last month Protoss had over 50% in both match-ups. No patch and now they are under 50% for a change. I don't see reason to be concerned unless it will stay like this for another few months.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 13:49:36
September 12 2012 13:49 GMT
#37
On September 12 2012 22:42 arew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 22:15 Tuczniak wrote:
Looks pretty good.
Let's wait what Korea will show.


Does it look good with the current percentage of protoss winning games?:D Funny...

What...it's basically completely balanced, so if protoss is at 49.99% in both matchups people will only see "under 50%" and say something is wrong ?
I mean, there are the graphs then there are the games. I don't think protoss have any ground to not be happy with the current state of sc2.
Ctuchik
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden91 Posts
September 12 2012 13:49 GMT
#38
On September 12 2012 22:37 SiroKO wrote:
I'm not sure if these stats are stored in a SQL or XML table.

If that's the case, I would be interested in having access to them in order to gather data from several months and make a 3D chart (using the length of the game).
So we would know which strong timings have appeared, if broodlords/infestors are truely balanced in the late game etc...


It's TLPD bro, hosted on this very site. Unfortunately game length is not recorded.
http://twitter.com/sc2statistics
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
September 12 2012 13:53 GMT
#39
I am pretty surprised by the TvP stats.

ZvP however, not so much ^_^
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NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
September 12 2012 14:02 GMT
#40
On September 12 2012 22:53 Doublemint wrote:
I am pretty surprised by the TvP stats.

ZvP however, not so much ^_^


yea, sad, but true ... Zerg's still dominating in ZvP with ease
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