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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:16 SCG.StatiC wrote: No korean stats? Anyway protoss is back to having the lowest winrate so everything is normal. International protoss has always been low, korean stats past few months protoss has been doing extremely well and continues to do so. I bet they have the highest in korea ^^. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
"Oh no, my all-ins are worse! I guess I now need to be as fast and as good at multi-tasking as my zerg opponent. The horror! The horror!" So much stupid still being sprouted about TvZ-balance, regardless of how wrong the people who clamored for zerg-nerfs turned out to be. | ||
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Raid
United States398 Posts
Edit: I noticed the number of games is ridiculously low in comparison to the other months.. Whats up with that? Is it not even finished? Why release it unfinished? | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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SCG.StatiC
South Africa33 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:13 blade55555 wrote: International protoss has always been low, korean stats past few months protoss has been doing extremely well and continues to do so. I bet they have the highest in korea ^^. Yeah I feel bad for saying that now. I wasn't trying to complain I think its very balanced at the moment  And yeah protoss doing very well in Korea. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11077 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:13 blade55555 wrote: International protoss has always been low, korean stats past few months protoss has been doing extremely well and continues to do so. I bet they have the highest in korea ^^. No international toss has usually been much stronger. The thing is that you can make a good case that all of those top toss are in bad slumps at the moment. In korea, well lets ignore the last few months and it tells quite the obvious tale about WoL. It feels like the ZvP success is illusory. That infestor BL army is still pretty silly. Hopefully HoTS will make it more robust. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:48 divito wrote: That's a ridiculously small percentage of Protoss players. And not indicative of anything, except that they either got lucky or played worse opponents. Says nothing about the race as a whole, which is what the statistics are meant to indicate. You do realize that Blizzard balance the game in according to the "small percentage" of pros. Since we began this testing, we’ve also been paying very close attention to the major tournaments around the world, and we’ve noticed that terran performance in the TvZ matchup has improved. In analyzing tournaments such as Global StarCraft II Team League, Intel Extreme Masters, and Major League Gaming, we’re no longer seeing the same balance shifts that caused us to propose changes in the first place. The most interesting tournament in this context was the IEM at gamescom 2012 in Cologne, Germany, where we saw players such as Kas and MVP make use of Ravens in ways that held a lot of potential. http://us.battle.net//sc2/en/blog/7121643 | ||
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Orracle
United States314 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:28 Raid wrote: I like how all the other protoss are under-performing on the most winningest month for protoss in a while. Edit: I noticed the number of games is ridiculously low in comparison to the other months.. Whats up with that? Is it not even finished? Why release it unfinished? Oh wow, I didn't notice that actually... This looks to be missing 700-1000 games in the international category alone... Would be good to have an edit on the front page actually stating that. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:14 m0ck wrote: TvZ before the patch WAS 3cc builds - and a shit-ton of roach-ling all-ins to try and punish it.. Try and take off your rose-tinted glasses and watch some games from before the patch and see if it really matches up with how you remember the games. "Oh no, my all-ins are worse! I guess I now need to be as fast and as good at multi-tasking as my zerg opponent. The horror! The horror!" So much stupid still being sprouted about TvZ-balance, regardless of how wrong the people who clamored for zerg-nerfs turned out to be. No it wasn't, not always like mostly it is now. Don't make me laugh myself to an early grave. XD I'm not saying it's imbalanced because it's evened out a lot (I still wish we had more viable openers like back in the day). | ||
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rainfable
United States171 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Blame the queen making any pressure build without 3 OC bad or all in for that | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:50 Noocta wrote: Blame the queen making any pressure build without 3 OC bad or all in for that Na, they have been the standard builds for much longer. They were not a reaction to queen range, they were a reaction to zergs destroying tank/marine pushes and proceeding to win with mass muta. | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
is that a conspiracy? | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On September 13 2012 15:17 HolyArrow wrote: It's actually kind of nice seeing international PvX winrates being sub-50% while Toss does well in Korea. Kind of proves the "Protoss takes no skill" crowd wrong Yup, it would kinda indicate the reverse, Toss are doing well at the top end (Squirtle, MC, First, Seed, Parting, Creator etc) but once you go down it gets hairy. Interesting to see. | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
On September 15 2012 18:22 graNite wrote: Why are the TLPD Stats not automated yet? it would be really awesome if that feature could be implemented, a similiar one is on the gomtv website but of course with only gsl games | ||
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