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VPVanek
Canada238 Posts
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Jaegeru
United Kingdom676 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:14 divito wrote: You're going to have a very skewed game if you only balance a small group of players and their results. Yes, kinda of like Terran being balanced around Taeja and MVP when Taeja seemed to be dominating vs Zerg and everybody else was struggling asking for buffs. | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:53 Pinna wrote: Yea, thats why my mid-master protoss friend loosing to a grandmaster zerg counts, but Squirtle beating the likes of DRG doesn't. Uh...if any of those were actually in TLPD I guess you'd have a point. As far as I know, mid masters players don't compete in big tournaments. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:14 divito wrote: You're going to have a very skewed game if you only balance a small group of players and their results. And yet you need to balance it for them cause if you buff it for the lesser players who knows what the top can do with said buffs. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:18 Jaegeru wrote: Yes, kinda of like Terran being balanced around Taeja and MVP when Taeja seemed to be dominating vs Zerg and everybody else was struggling asking for buffs. The outspoken few say nothing of the actual statistics used when they try to nerf/buff. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:16 BronzeKnee wrote: You have a very small mind my friend. Basically Creator goes on a tear winning WCS and TSL4, and Seed and MC are in the GSL Finals and now Protoss isn't weak? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Yeah, me and every Korean interviewer apparently. The most common question in interviews lately has been "Protoss is really dominant lately, why do you think that is". And the players all seemed to agree, but they have small minds too, right?  | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:25 sitromit wrote: Yeah, me and every Korean interviewer apparently. The most common question in interviews lately has been "Protoss is really dominant lately, why do you think that is". And the players all seemed to agree, but they have small minds too, right? There's a world of difference between 'X race is dominant lately' and 'X race is OP'. BW went through this over and over as new maps/builds/players just performing well sent one race into dominant position for awhile. | ||
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Asmodeusx
286 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:25 sitromit wrote: Yeah, me and every Korean interviewer apparently. The most common question in interviews lately has been "Protoss is really dominant lately, why do you think that is". And the players all seemed to agree, but they have small minds too, right? If one race is doing better at international and other is doing better at Korea level that says more about meta-game and skill than balance. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:28 tomatriedes wrote: If one race is doing better at international and other is doing better at Korea level that says more about meta-game and skill than balance. You only have to look at the top for balance, the rest does not matter. Yea your average joe might be getting stomped as race x but if said race is doing well at the top then the problem does not lie with the race but with the player. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:28 tomatriedes wrote: If one race is doing better at international and other is doing better at Korea level that says more about meta-game and skill than balance. Yeah, this was the case with TvZ for quite a while: really bad internationally, balanced in Korea; now it's balanced internationally as well. Anyway, waiting on the Korean stats, I got a feeling PvZ will look quite ugly in P's favor. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:25 sitromit wrote: Yeah, me and every Korean interviewer apparently. The most common question in interviews lately has been "Protoss is really dominant lately, why do you think that is". And the players all seemed to agree, but they have small minds too, right? Everyone used to think that the world was flat too. But then we learned it wasn't. Math changes things. Opinions and erroneous hunches mean nothing. Statistical data does. I cannot comment on whether or not they have small minds, since I don't know how easily their mind is boggled when presented with data that contradicts an opinions or erroneous hunch. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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Squirrel
United States1102 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:17 VPVanek wrote: Can someone share the secret on beating zerg? ZvT 51.1% Doesn't seem to be a big secret... | ||
Poopi
France13023 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:34 Noocta wrote: Protoss is totaly the weakest race. Look at all these protoss in Korea doing so bad. /sarcasm Game look pretty well balanced. Dustin was perhaps right afterall, Queen change wasn't so bad.. The game was more balanced before this patch. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:00 Poopi wrote: The game was more balanced before this patch. More balanced ? Probably not. More fun ? for terran totaly  TvZ before queen change was so much fun :< | ||
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Poopi
France13023 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:03 Noocta wrote: More balanced ? Probably not. More fun ? for terran totaly TvZ before queen change was so much fun :< Yes it was more balanced. You didn't see koreans dropping maps/matches to random, at least not as much. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:03 Noocta wrote: More balanced ? Probably not. More fun ? for terran totaly TvZ before queen change was so much fun :< TvZ before 3CC builds was fun... | ||
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Squirrel
United States1102 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:04 Poopi wrote: Yes it was more balanced. You didn't see koreans dropping maps/matches to random, at least not as much. ZvT 51.1% That's almost exactly where it was before the patch. Just because you notice people dropping maps to random players more often doesn't mean it's more common. | ||
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