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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
Zergs Started Splitting Broodlords and using Mutas in more games. Terrans are being more aggressive and actually microing well. all our evil Protoss tricks are pretty much figured out and Terrans and Zergs aren't dying as often to 2 base all-ins, as a Protoss player I have been winning 50%+ on NA ladder but I have also played close to 50% pvp 35% pvz 15% pvts. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On September 15 2012 22:17 Reborn8u wrote: So 2 years worth of consistently being on the bottom is completely negated by 1 event? I think the big problem for Protoss is how easily they can not just be punished, but outright lose, if they go for a 3rd on many maps. While zergs can safely take a 3rd in the first 4 minutes of the game against toss, and terran's can build a 3rd inside their main and either use it for mules until they can land and secure it safely or just make a PF. A protoss trying to get an early 3rd and losing it, or being harassed at multiple location, is so often a death sentence. It also may have to do with the fact that when a protoss loses probes they take a long time to replace. No mules or larva to keep a decent income or replace fallen workers quickly. Basically, protoss lacks resilience but is forced to play defensively or just 2 base all in. Without 2 base all in play, protoss wouldn't even be viable as a race. 1 Event? Let's look at recent results at the highest level of play, shall we? GSL 2012 season 3, PvP finals, Protoss champ Korea WCS, All Protoss Semis at Winners Bracket, Protoss champ Korea WCG, Protoss champ TSL 4, Protoss Champ That's 1 event? | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
On September 16 2012 19:51 sitromit wrote: 1 Event? Let's look at recent results at the highest level of play, shall we? GSL 2012 season 3, PvP finals, Protoss champ Korea WCS, All Protoss Semis at Winners Bracket, Protoss champ Korea WCG, Protoss champ TSL 4, Protoss Champ That's 1 event? Those are all Koreans. These aren't even Korean win/loss. We don't even know those numbers yet so wait and see | ||
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VmY
Netherlands1286 Posts
On September 16 2012 20:02 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: Those are all Koreans. These aren't even Korean win/loss. We don't even know those numbers yet so wait and see But we do! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369006 Even though I woudn't try to read to much into these winrates (Both international and korean have small sample sizes, patches change the game etc), you can't argue protoss is 'the worst' race if you look at the results the last few months. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On September 16 2012 19:51 sitromit wrote: 1 Event? Let's look at recent results at the highest level of play, shall we? GSL 2012 season 3, PvP finals, Protoss champ Korea WCS, All Protoss Semis at Winners Bracket, Protoss champ Korea WCG, Protoss champ TSL 4, Protoss Champ That's 1 event? The strong presence in Korea could explain the weak presence in International competition. Apparently, most of the Korean Protoss stayed in Korea. | ||
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PlacidPanda
United States246 Posts
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
On September 17 2012 01:42 PlacidPanda wrote: So yeah, that TvP matchup is impossible guys. Guys??? Wait we're up in winrates? Oh... Terran players in general just have a tough time dealing with when they're not on top of the win-rate charts. It was like that for long enough that the majority of them just became "expectant" to have the top win % of the races. | ||
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jameswatts
South Africa127 Posts
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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nyaru267
United States117 Posts
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Canada180 Posts
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Jermstuddog
United States2231 Posts
Not sure what's up. | ||
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jameswatts
South Africa127 Posts
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
On September 17 2012 01:46 Enzymatic wrote: Terran players in general just have a tough time dealing with when they're not on top of the win-rate charts. It was like that for long enough that the majority of them just became "expectant" to have the top win % of the races. Err I think your post doesnt apply to the silent majority of terrans. It sounds like you are bitter over something. Let's focus on the present moment shall we, my friend  | ||
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SirPinky
United States525 Posts
On October 22 2012 16:09 SoniC_eu wrote: Err I think your post doesnt apply to the silent majority of terrans. It sounds like you are bitter over something. Let's focus on the present moment shall we, my friend Actually many of them aren't silent anymore. The imbalance is getting greater and greater. MVP just tweeted: "응원해주신분들 감사해요~! 5회우승은 다음에 ㅠㅠ THX my fan. terran buff plz XD" After the endless Zerg dominance in the last two months, you don't need statistics to tell you there is a problem. But I'm sure there are those "show me the stats" nerds to make it a reality. BTW: Balance aside, aren't you tired of getting ZvZ on ladder all the time. Terran is the least played race by nearly 10% (over 10% in GM). Just in the interest of having ladder games versus a Terran, Zerg should be looked at. http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all | ||
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bhfberserk
Canada390 Posts
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